I forgave Defoe everything for his devotion to his 'best mate' Bradley. There was nothing false about that, nothing to do with his PR profile - it was 100% genuine and he enriched young Bradley's life immeasurably as well as enriching his own.
I would shake Jermaine's hand warmly if I ever met him.
I know he's only a kid, but even back then Defoe looked like a bell end.
Personally,i am willing to give Defoe a pass on his leaving.It was rumored that there where considerable financial rewards made to his family,so at his young age at the time,he would have had very little say in the matter.I do recall,when he played for Spurs in the game that ultimately relegated us,he scored for them and did not celebrate,as he was entitled to do after the abuse he got from us over the years.Parker was different,he made his own decision to leave at a critical time for our club,and probably cost us European football.
I forgave Defoe everything for his devotion to his 'best mate' Bradley. There was nothing false about that, nothing to do with his PR profile - it was 100% genuine and he enriched young Bradley's life immeasurably as well as enriching his own.
I would shake Jermaine's hand warmly if I ever met him.
I know he's only a kid, but even back then Defoe looked like a bell end.
I think the parents of the poor little lad who supported Sunderland would have a different view.
We always see it from a Charlton perspective though.
Respect to what he did at Sunderland, but when there were rumours he was rumoured to come back I doubt we (the fans) would of been on board.
Same with Parker. Although apparently he still holds Charlton in high regard, doubt we would accept him as manager. (Or warm to him quickly).
Anyway why would we want that when there are people saying he is the second coming of Sean Dyche. Would you want that football back at the Valley? Isn't that what fans were criticising Jones for?!
I don't understand the hatred towards defoe, and as mentioned, he was only 16.
He didn't even play 1st team football for us.
You could blame Harry rednapp for it but that's also kind of pointless.
Curbs was great at signing players because to put extra work in to lure them to Charlton.
Rednab was a twat but that's football for ya and it happened almost 30 years ago
I think it’s partly because of the celebrating in front of us when scoring thing. I know it’s a bit chicken and egg but I honestly don’t remember him getting boos (relatively) before he started doing that.
He was getting booed as he was warming up a sub during the 4-4 game! I couldn't care less about him celebrating scoring a goal for his club.
Was that his first game then? I don’t remember. Neither could I, but someone said they didn’t understand it so I’m suggesting that as a possible reason.
I don't understand the hatred towards defoe, and as mentioned, he was only 16.
He didn't even play 1st team football for us.
You could blame Harry rednapp for it but that's also kind of pointless.
Curbs was great at signing players because to put extra work in to lure them to Charlton.
Rednab was a twat but that's football for ya and it happened almost 30 years ago
I think it’s partly because of the celebrating in front of us when scoring thing. I know it’s a bit chicken and egg but I honestly don’t remember him getting boos (relatively) before he started doing that.
He was getting booed as he was warming up a sub during the 4-4 game! I couldn't care less about him celebrating scoring a goal for his club.
Was that his first game then? I don’t remember. Neither could I, but someone said they didn’t understand it so I’m suggesting that as a possible reason.
Not sure, but it was when he was breaking into the first team after scoring a load on loan at Bournemouth. We half expected him to score that night but no one saw Paul Kitson getting a hatrick!
Parker is a good manager in the Championship with clubs like Burnley and Fulham who have way more resource than other championship clubs. Parker is a poor manager in the PL with clubs like Burnley who have much less money than other PL clubs.
overall I think he is an average manager who performs to the budget of his club and the division they are in.
as for thoughts on Parker and / or Defoe, I don’t like either for the way they left us. Maybe that’s irrational and unfair but for me football is wonderful because of the partisan emotion it brings, as irrational as that often is.
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I think the parents of the poor little lad who supported Sunderland would have a different view.
I think the parents of the poor little lad who supported Sunderland would have a different view.
All day long.
Respect to what he did at Sunderland, but when there were rumours he was rumoured to come back I doubt we (the fans) would of been on board.
Same with Parker. Although apparently he still holds Charlton in high regard, doubt we would accept him as manager. (Or warm to him quickly).
Anyway why would we want that when there are people saying he is the second coming of Sean Dyche. Would you want that football back at the Valley? Isn't that what fans were criticising Jones for?!
Parker is a poor manager in the PL with clubs like Burnley who have much less money than other PL clubs.
overall I think he is an average manager who performs to the budget of his club and the division they are in.
as for thoughts on Parker and / or Defoe, I don’t like either for the way they left us. Maybe that’s irrational and unfair but for me football is wonderful because of the partisan emotion it brings, as irrational as that often is.