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B.U.A.V. (British Union Abolition Vivisection).
Miserableoldgit
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W.H.A.T.???0
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Bumming Unavailable After Venereal.0
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Is that safe for work?0
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sickening0
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Surely its better to have bunnies with sore eyes than people0
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There's a man who regrets not having kids.0
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Found out recently that it is creul to keep single rabbits as they're social animals, I would be more impressed if Gervais had two rather than one creature to make his point.
Is he a vegetarian BTW?0 -
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Nazi Germany was the first country to ban vivisection in the world, enacting a total ban in April 1933.0
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Nazi Germany was the first country to ban vivisection in the world, enacting a total ban in April 1933.
They were elected with about a third of the seats in January 1933, and Goering helped this legislation go through in August 1933, quite a decent achievement for a minority party.0 -
Sorry...April.0
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To be fair by then they had banned most of the opposition parties, especially the Socialist and Communist parties. That was the result of the Reichstag fire and the Enabling Act gave Hitler dictatorial powers.Nazi Germany was the first country to ban vivisection in the world, enacting a total ban in April 1933.
They were elected with about a third of the seats in January 1933, and Goering helped this legislation go through in August 1933, quite a decent achievement for a minority party.
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Nazi Germany was the first country to ban vivisection in the world, enacting a total ban in April 1933.
But were quite happy to experiment on the disabled and so called non-Aryans (sic).
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Why did they ban vivisection? Anyone know that?0
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Been supporting the work of the BUAV for years. I'm sorry but there is no excuse for animal testing in these technologically advanced times. Sorry NLA but no, it's not better to have 'bunnies with sore eyes' as you put it.
I will never figure out mankind's continued arrogance in it's belief that it can do what it likes with other sentient beings lower down the evolutionary scale.0 -
Why did they ban vivisection? Anyone know that?
For ideological reasons I believe, part of the Nazi/Aryan belief was that the environment needed to be protected and they saw experiments on animals as being an ethical thing.
Goering announced, with no sign of apparent irony, that anyone breaking the ban would be "sent to the concentration camps".
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Nevr trust a vegetarianWhy did they ban vivisection? Anyone know that?
For ideological reasons I believe, part of the Nazi/Aryan belief was that the environment needed to be protected and they saw experiments on animals as being an ethical thing.
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Bit harsh Shine, I'm completely trustworthy. Though in no way a Nazi.0
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Bit harsh Shine, I'm completely trustworthy. Though in no way a Nazi.
I said never trust a vegetarian, not all vegetarians are Nazis
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Ah, so they weren't all bad then - just completely fcuked up in the head!Why did they ban vivisection? Anyone know that?
For ideological reasons I believe, part of the Nazi/Aryan belief was that the environment needed to be protected and they saw experiments on animals as being an ethical thing.
Goering announced, with no sign of apparent irony, that anyone breaking the ban would be "sent to the concentration camps".
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Been supporting the work of the BUAV for years. I'm sorry but there is no excuse for animal testing in these technologically advanced times. Sorry NLA but no, it's not better to have 'bunnies with sore eyes' as you put it.
Well said!
I will never figure out mankind's continued arrogance in it's belief that it can do what it likes with other sentient beings lower down the evolutionary scale.
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Seems like a good cause when it comes down to testing cosmetic products; that is one thing that I despise - animal testing on non-essential products such as cosmetics. Totally inexcusable.
Pharmaceuticals though.. whole different kettle of fish.0 -
Animal testing for gravy is essential.0
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Animal testing for gravy is essential.
LOL
i think bunnies in lipstick is a beautiful thing, and those long eyelashes on guniea pigs are sooo sexy
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I'm not biting on that one NLA, I know your game. Just watch out for any escaped big cats from London zoo - karma my friend, is a bitch
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I can't work out how to quote....but addickupnorth cannot understand while we are still testing on animals....
There are a number of reasons, but the main reason is that there is no such technology that will reliably recreate and organism and its response to drugs...
For instance, in the 80's it was known that a chemical endogenously produced (acetlycholine) caused vasodilatation in vivo but vasoconstriction in vitro....thus an in Vito model couldn't recreate what happens in the organism....there are many many other examples of this...
Another advantage is that we can create genetically modified animals that allows hypothesis testing before drugs are given to the animal...I.e if the animal lacks receptor x, it feels less pain, therefore you fan conclude that a drug that blocks receptor x may help relieve pain..unfortunately as you can probably guess, its impossible to recreate this in vitro...
The use of animals is vitally important in both target validation, drug development and toxicology. If there were other methods, they would be used (contarary to popular belief, scientists do not want to hurt or be cruel to animals).
Just out if interest, do you take any form of medication? Or have you ever had an operation?
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Good post Robert and agree 100%0
