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Championship expectations
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Off subject of us, but I expected Leicester to be starting the season with a points deduction.The rumours/news in May was this was a definite, as they previously avoided it, but it was agreed points would be taken for this season since they will be back in EFL.As we're two weeks from starting season and no deduction, I presume they've managed to do a deal with EFL to ignore the financial issues (cheating).1
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10/1 top 6
25/1 promotion.
100/1 Champions.0 -
NTT20 have predicted us to avoid relegation and finish 19th, relegation places below
22nd: Oxford
23rd: Hull
24th: Sheffield Wednesday
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Ben HD on YouTube (wasn't aware of his channel until today, but has 52k subscribers) has us finishing 21st.Thinks could be higher if we get in a starting quality no.10. Says that most people think we will struggle to score enough goals, but we will be okay with Tanto and Kelman, as well as Godden.He has Hull, Oxford, Wednesday to be relegated.1
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Would pop a bottle over 19th, would be a tremendous effort.fenaddick said:NTT20 have predicted us to avoid relegation and finish 19th, relegation places below
22nd: Oxford
23rd: Hull
24th: Sheffield Wednesday
Listening to this Second Tier pod now on key players, and they don't sound as clued up as the NTT20 guys. They've identified CBT as Derbys key player ffs.
Will listen to NTT20 tomorrow on a stroll.0 -
NTT20 mentioned our defence of Macca, Jones and Ramsey might not be up to champ standards, but when talking about our transfers they completely missed out Burke and Bell, and no mention of Kaminski…they seemed to have brushed over us a bit2
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Yes, i initially said Oxford would stay up because of Rowett alone but their recruitment has been really bad. Same with Portsmouth. You picked a good season to get promoted that’s for surestoneroses19 said:Ben HD on YouTube (wasn't aware of his channel until today, but has 52k subscribers) has us finishing 21st.Thinks could be higher if we get in a starting quality no.10. Says that most people think we will struggle to score enough goals, but we will be okay with Tanto and Kelman, as well as Godden.He has Hull, Oxford, Wednesday to be relegated.1 -
Surely it takes a few minutes to see he wasn’t a regular for them last season?Braziliance said:
Would pop a bottle over 19th, would be a tremendous effort.fenaddick said:NTT20 have predicted us to avoid relegation and finish 19th, relegation places below
22nd: Oxford
23rd: Hull
24th: Sheffield Wednesday
Listening to this Second Tier pod now on key players, and they don't sound as clued up as the NTT20 guys. They've identified CBT as Derbys key player ffs.
Will listen to NTT20 tomorrow on a stroll.0 -
Pompey are a weird one. I don't see where the goals will come from bar Bishop, they're going to have to make Fratton Park an absolute fortress to stand a chance.MillwallFan said:
Yes, i initially said Oxford would stay up because of Rowett alone but their recruitment has been really bad. Same with Portsmouth. You picked a good season to get promoted that’s for surestoneroses19 said:Ben HD on YouTube (wasn't aware of his channel until today, but has 52k subscribers) has us finishing 21st.Thinks could be higher if we get in a starting quality no.10. Says that most people think we will struggle to score enough goals, but we will be okay with Tanto and Kelman, as well as Godden.He has Hull, Oxford, Wednesday to be relegated.2 - Sponsored links:
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Both of them are Derby Fans as well.Scoham said:
Surely it takes a few minutes to see he wasn’t a regular for them last season?Braziliance said:
Would pop a bottle over 19th, would be a tremendous effort.fenaddick said:NTT20 have predicted us to avoid relegation and finish 19th, relegation places below
22nd: Oxford
23rd: Hull
24th: Sheffield Wednesday
Listening to this Second Tier pod now on key players, and they don't sound as clued up as the NTT20 guys. They've identified CBT as Derbys key player ffs.
Will listen to NTT20 tomorrow on a stroll.1 -
They rate Kaminski very highly though. Yesterday, they did the League One predictions, and had him down as one of the best players that's left this summer (they also mentioned Carey and Apter).Kinsella87 said:NTT20 mentioned our defence of Macca, Jones and Ramsey might not be up to champ standards, but when talking about our transfers they completely missed out Burke and Bell, and no mention of Kaminski…they seemed to have brushed over us a bit1 -
Markets have 100/1 Champions… 33/1 Promotion an 12/1 top six. Relegation 3/1 bottom 12/1 .However top half is a really miserable 11/4, I think 5/1 is a lot nearer the true price. None of the odds currently available on Charlton appear to be any value.
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Dont mind us EFL Championship... We're just passing through7
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Looking at the signings we’ve made this window and the players we already had I just get the impresssion that this is a squad that’s going to have a lot of fun this season.2
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Yea true, listened to that one too. Just wanted them to mention everything and all our signings 😂stoneroses19 said:
They rate Kaminski very highly though. Yesterday, they did the League One predictions, and had him down as one of the best players that's left this summer (they also mentioned Carey and Apter).Kinsella87 said:NTT20 mentioned our defence of Macca, Jones and Ramsey might not be up to champ standards, but when talking about our transfers they completely missed out Burke and Bell, and no mention of Kaminski…they seemed to have brushed over us a bit1 -
The Sportsmen preview:
https://youtu.be/zYEST3g3IvI?si=nL4FFTFl_YVKViGB
Not a 1-24, but short bit on each side and expectations. All think we'll be fine, a couple even suggesting we might be top half, possibly even playoffs.0 -
If we survive, even playing the football everybody hates, then it will be a hugely enjoyable season.
Anything else would be a bonus.
I reckon there will be some of our support who might criticise any lack of beauty and flair, but would you rather have a Nissan Micra that gets you there, or a beautiful Jaguar broken down at the side of the road whilst you wait for the AA?
If we can stay up then our signings now suggest we can push on next year.2 -
My concern is making a slow start. We’ve had a lot of new players and the ones who haven’t worked with NJ before have come later on the whole. We know NJ works a bit differently to other coaches so it might take a while for them to fully buy in and adapt. Can get away with a slow start in L1 when you can scrape results anyway, much harder when you’re a newly promoted Championship team
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More or less every team in the league has already also got a lot of new players; and some have brought in more than one overseas player that will have even more work to do to adjust to their new team and manager.fenaddick said:My concern is making a slow start. We’ve had a lot of new players and the ones who haven’t worked with NJ before have come later on the whole. We know NJ works a bit differently to other coaches so it might take a while for them to fully buy in and adapt. Can get away with a slow start in L1 when you can scrape results anyway, much harder when you’re a newly promoted Championship team0 - Sponsored links:
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Pretty happy. Think we have a very good chance if staying in the league. I know the opposition was easier today, but I can see the understanding developing between the players. Will be ups and downs but 12-16 is my prediction0
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Had a top 6 bet that paid out last season, followed by betting on winning the playoff's.
Optimistic bet this season is a top half finish.0 -
Sausage fingers. Edited too 😂fenlandaddick said:Pretty happy. Think we have a very good chance if staying in the league. I know the opposition was easier today, but I can see the understanding developing between the players. Will be ups and downs but 12-26 is my prediction0 -
I think we’ll finish 16th or 17th. That’ll do. Sadly I think Millwall will finish 6th.1
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The second tier podcast has put out their bottom 8 from their 1-24. The middle 8 comes out on Tuesday. Then top 8 on Thursday. I’ve been listening to them over the summer and seem to know their stuff (Allbeit being Derby fans and think John Eustace is god). It’s a good listen as they analyse each club and players to look out for.
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Whatever happens, Millwall will finish at least 6 points better than us!ShootersHillGuru said:I think we’ll finish 16th or 17th. That’ll do. Sadly I think Millwall will finish 6th.0 -
One thing that stood out from being at both Ipswich and Southend games was how difficult we found it to get decent possession in the final third. Balls out of defence were mostly being lost and coming straight back. When Gas came on yesterday, we finally had a target man who was winning headers, linking up play and made the likes of Carey and Apter more of a threat. If he is going to Bolton, then the lack of this type of player in our squad concerns me despite all the other signings.0
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Especially as Jones has always seemed to favour that type of player. Perhaps he sees Olaofe / Leaburn in that role ?PeakieRocket said:One thing that stood out from being at both Ipswich and Southend games was how difficult we found it to get decent possession in the final third. Balls out of defence were mostly being lost and coming straight back. When Gas came on yesterday, we finally had a target man who was winning headers, linking up play and made the likes of Carey and Apter more of a threat. If he is going to Bolton, then the lack of this type of player in our squad concerns me despite all the other signings.0 -
If you play with a ‘target man’ you are basically playing with ten and a half men and giving up territory, more so with Nathan’s preferred game-plan which is based upon players finding space or running into space.PeakieRocket said:One thing that stood out from being at both Ipswich and Southend games was how difficult we found it to get decent possession in the final third. Balls out of defence were mostly being lost and coming straight back. When Gas came on yesterday, we finally had a target man who was winning headers, linking up play and made the likes of Carey and Apter more of a threat. If he is going to Bolton, then the lack of this type of player in our squad concerns me despite all the other signings.
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My biggest annoyance was Brentfoed bottling it. 1 point was all they needed to get into the Prem and save us and they were a total bottle jobBalladMan said:
Surely the biggest annoyance was Barnsley scoring post-90 minutes against brentford and our game was finished and nothing we could do about it. Lost 4-0, were still up at final whistle, only to be relegated.ForeverAddickted said:Bet we wouldn't have finished 22nd had we kept Gallagher, and with a proper setup in terms of dealing with injuries... Not to mention the Taylor injury. We were cursed that season, especially after such a strong start. All began to unravel after that first International Break.
All IFs and BUTs though
Ironically when Luton announced Nathan Jones was back as Manager, I thought that would be problematic for us (even without the Covid break), as they were f**ked under Graeme Jones.
My biggest annoyance was when Barnsley got their late winner against Nottingham Forest in their penultimate match... I got the maths wrong, thought they were already down, and remember thinking it was nice they were saving a bit of face.6
