Mark Clattenburg v Arsenal the season we went down. He should have sent off RVP when it was 0-0 for a kick out at JFH, only gave him a booking. Then RVP scored that wonder volley jumped over the advetising boards Into the crowd whilst celebrating and didn't receive a second yellow card. I always thought that game was our turning point in that horrible season. To make things worse Clattenburg booked 2 places for chelsea the following week for celebrating with the crowd.
2 Mike Reilly v was it Liverpool or Man U ? When he red carded Konchesky early doors for a non existent elbow. I've never seen a ref run so fast to red card someone. He would have beaten Wyatt Earp, Jesse James & the man with no name ? (Clint Eastwood) to the draw.
Think this was against Chelsea. If I remember we were 1-0 up at the time, scored a second with 10 man but lost 3-2.
Gurnam Singh away at Man City in about 96 season. We were 1.0 up and cruising and then he won the game for city singlehanded awarding a diabolical pen after Dickov dived and then another free kick right on the edge of the box.
Never felt more cheated than this when leaving a game! Apart from the Fulham "free kick" of course!
Not sure who the ref was but was away at Highbury when Winterburn brought down Andy Peake. The Arsenal fans and players all thought it was a pen but the ref played on. Prompting the Lennie quote of 'last time we got a penalty away from home Christ was a Carpenter'.
whoever the ref was against Millwall when Pat Van Den Haue done Shaun Newton in the first minute
I remember that very well. Ray Bigger was the ref: a terrible 'non decision'.
Also Ken Walmsley, the ref. at Sunderland when Graham Tutt was kicked in the face and was stretchered off with serious head injuries which ultimately finished his career. Both ref and linesman said they didn't see it so not even a free kick!
Makes you wonder where these blokes are looking when they miss such obvious fouls.
Not sure who the ref was but was away at Highbury when Winterburn brought down Andy Peake. The Arsenal fans and players all thought it was a pen but the ref played on. Prompting the Lennie quote of 'last time we got a penalty away from home Christ was a Carpenter'.
I was at that match, didn't he give them a penalty for handball that no one saw? When I mean no one, I mean the entire Arsenal team and the entire north bank, no one appealed, he just gave it!
For me though, it has to Bristol rovers away when Reid, Semedo and Powell got sent off. Ref quite simply had no idea
Why over-rule a linesman who was standing right next to play, when you are 30 yards away ?
Didn't the lino who was 2 yards away give a free kick to Fulham when Radzinski had handled and not Traore. Poll was 30 yards away but didn't overrule. It was a total balls up by the lino.
Why over-rule a linesman who was standing right next to play, when you are 30 yards away ?
Didn't the lino who was 2 yards away give a free kick to Fulham when Radzinski had handled and not Traore. Poll was 30 yards away but didn't overrule. It was a total balls up by the lino.
Spot on. I always give Jimmy Krankie a warm reception everytime he comes back to the Valley.
Not sure who the ref was but was away at Highbury when Winterburn brought down Andy Peake. The Arsenal fans and players all thought it was a pen but the ref played on. Prompting the Lennie quote of 'last time we got a penalty away from home Christ was a Carpenter'.
Why over-rule a linesman who was standing right next to play, when you are 30 yards away ?
Didn't the lino who was 2 yards away give a free kick to Fulham when Radzinski had handled and not Traore. Poll was 30 yards away but didn't overrule. It was a total balls up by the lino.
Spot on. I always give Jimmy Krankie a warm reception everytime he comes back to the Valley.
God, I remember Gurnham Singh from the 90s. He was atrocious!
Also, who was the ref when we played Fulham in Pardews first (I think) game. We were 2-1 up and they got a free kick outside the box for a supposed foul by Traore. He was literally 3 or 4 feet behind the guy. That win would have got us out the bottom 3 and I think we would have kicked on and stayed up.
#1. The ref at the Fulham game and the phantom free kick award. In the back of my mind I seem to remember we should have had a throw our way, which somehow transpired into a free kick for Fulham. Really valuable points lost then. #2. The ref at that Aresnal game where RVP scored that great goal (shown many times on the MOTD) when he should never have been on the pitch. And isn't this the same game where Murphy got sent off for being naughty and bouncing the ball quite hard into the ground..?
Why over-rule a linesman who was standing right next to play, when you are 30 yards away ?
Didn't the lino who was 2 yards away give a free kick to Fulham when Radzinski had handled and not Traore. Poll was 30 yards away but didn't overrule. It was a total balls up by the lino.
Maybe my memory is playing tricks, but I thought the lino gave a throw to us, only for Poll to give a FK to them.
I agree that Rob Styles was a disgrace in that game and in my opinion his refereeing of that game effectively ended a player's career as he could have stamped out the behaviours before the incident.
The worst decsion ever not involving Charlton was Clive thomas allowing a corner to be taken in a World Cup game and blowing the final whistle whilst the ball was in the air- before it was headed into the net!!!!
Why over-rule a linesman who was standing right next to play, when you are 30 yards away ?
Didn't the lino who was 2 yards away give a free kick to Fulham when Radzinski had handled and not Traore. Poll was 30 yards away but didn't overrule. It was a total balls up by the lino.
Maybe my memory is playing tricks, but I thought the lino gave a throw to us, only for Poll to give a FK to them.
I'm sure it was the lino who made the decison. I sit in the East Stand & it happened just below me.........I went balistic & remember running down to the front of the stand to give the lino some stick. It was not a hard decision to make - an arm shot out to stop the ball going out of play - one player was black & the other white - how can you get taht wrong !!
It happened right in front of me goldaddick, and I think you've got it correct there. Plus there was also Poll's obligatory 4 mins of injury time in that game. See also Villa at home, when Kinsella had put us 2-1 up (?) and, apropos of nothing relating to the game whatsoever, Poll adds on his usual 4 mins to allow Villa just enough time to equalize.
But agree with earlier posts, Kettle last season has to be the most bizarre example of refereeing in recent years.
Not sure who the ref was but was away at Highbury when Winterburn brought down Andy Peake. The Arsenal fans and players all thought it was a pen but the ref played on. Prompting the Lennie quote of 'last time we got a penalty away from home Christ was a Carpenter'.
Alan Seville--i think
This was in my mind when I read the title thread. Definately Alan Seville. Cast iron penalty waved away by that biased imbicile.
Why over-rule a linesman who was standing right next to play, when you are 30 yards away ?
Didn't the lino who was 2 yards away give a free kick to Fulham when Radzinski had handled and not Traore. Poll was 30 yards away but didn't overrule. It was a total balls up by the lino.
Maybe my memory is playing tricks, but I thought the lino gave a throw to us, only for Poll to give a FK to them.
The ball was right by the half way line on the East stand side 2 yards in play from the lino. Fulham player and Traore battling for the ball. Fulham player punches the ball off. Lino flags for free-kick to Fulham which Poll gives. No way he could see it as he was 30 yards away with the players' backs to him. Free kick is awarded the wrong way, Fulham launch ball in box and 2-1 becomes 2-2, 3 points become 1. I would get slaughtered for that at contrib level let alone a PL assistant getting that wrong.
Agree with the majority of the verdicts here:
#2. The ref at that Aresnal game where RVP scored that great goal (shown many times on the MOTD) when he should never have been on the pitch. And isn't this the same game where Murphy got sent off for being naughty and bouncing the ball quite hard into the ground..?
The RVP game was Mark Clattenburg in the 2006-07 relegation season. The Murphy one was Steve Bennett and it was a second yellow for dissent by word or action and that was a clear action so only himself to blame to give the ref a chance to send him off....
Oh and Gurnham Singh. I remember in 92-93 at Tranmere on a Friday night Garry Nelson bursting into the box and clearly fouled. GS put the whistle to his lips and didn't blow it. Denied us 2 points as we drew 0-0. Also, I remember seeing a penalty given against us the following season at Bolton. Scott Minto won a perfect tackle against John McGinley and he gave a penalty. Awful decision in a 2-3 defeat.
Do you know what, Spankie. Despite my early post, and indeed, despite the incident happening right in front of me, I think you've called it right. Wasn't it more or less the last kick of the game? As I said earlier, Poll bizarrely and unjustifiably added four mins of injury time. If it had been the customary and correct three mins, the incident would never had happened and we would've had the three points. I remember the Lino getting tons of well-deserved stick.
I agree that Rob Styles was a disgrace in that game and in my opinion his refereeing of that game effectively ended a player's career as he could have stamped out the behaviours before the incident.
The worst decsion ever not involving Charlton was Clive thomas allowing a corner to be taken in a World Cup game and blowing the final whistle whilst the ball was in the air- before it was headed into the net!!!!
Poll managed to do that in the World Cup game where he booked a bloke 3 times. Clown
Can't remember the ref. We played Liverpool in our first season in the Prem at Anfield. One of ours got knocked down and we had clear advantage, and the ref pulled it back for a free kick.
That was the one and only Paul Alcock of 'Di Canio push over' fame. Andy Hunt was the man clean through and Alcock pulled it back for a free kick on the half way line.
The worst performance has to be Kelvin Morton at Southend in '91. Gatting sent off, Curbs sent off, three pens given (two to us, both missed) , a complete dogs of a performance. He was also in charge when he gave five (I think) pens in a Palace v Brighton game (Curbs scored one) and also the night when he penalised Pitcher for a sliced clearance back to Salmon at Palace in the league cup. They scored from the free kick obviously.
He received a long service award recently, beggars belief!
Oh and Gurnham Singh. I remember in 92-93 at Tranmere on a Friday night Garry Nelson bursting into the box and clearly fouled. GS put the whistle to his lips and didn't blow it. Denied us 2 points as we drew 0-0.
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Why over-rule a linesman who was standing right next to play, when you are 30 yards away ?
Never felt more cheated than this when leaving a game! Apart from the Fulham "free kick" of course!
Also Ken Walmsley, the ref. at Sunderland when Graham Tutt was kicked in the face and was stretchered off with serious head injuries which ultimately finished his career. Both ref and linesman said they didn't see it so not even a free kick!
Makes you wonder where these blokes are looking when they miss such obvious fouls.
For me though, it has to Bristol rovers away when Reid, Semedo and Powell got sent off. Ref quite simply had no idea
Me too.
Also, who was the ref when we played Fulham in Pardews first (I think) game. We were 2-1 up and they got a free kick outside the box for a supposed foul by Traore. He was literally 3 or 4 feet behind the guy. That win would have got us out the bottom 3 and I think we would have kicked on and stayed up.
#1. The ref at the Fulham game and the phantom free kick award. In the back of my mind I seem to remember we should have had a throw our way, which somehow transpired into a free kick for Fulham. Really valuable points lost then.
#2. The ref at that Aresnal game where RVP scored that great goal (shown many times on the MOTD) when he should never have been on the pitch. And isn't this the same game where Murphy got sent off for being naughty and bouncing the ball quite hard into the ground..?
Maybe my memory is playing tricks, but I thought the lino gave a throw to us, only for Poll to give a FK to them.
The worst decsion ever not involving Charlton was Clive thomas allowing a corner to be taken in a World Cup game and blowing the final whistle whilst the ball was in the air- before it was headed into the net!!!!
But agree with earlier posts, Kettle last season has to be the most bizarre example of refereeing in recent years.
Also, I remember seeing a penalty given against us the following season at Bolton. Scott Minto won a perfect tackle against John McGinley and he gave a penalty. Awful decision in a 2-3 defeat.
The worst performance has to be Kelvin Morton at Southend in '91. Gatting sent off, Curbs sent off, three pens given (two to us, both missed) , a complete dogs of a performance. He was also in charge when he gave five (I think) pens in a Palace v Brighton game (Curbs scored one) and also the night when he penalised Pitcher for a sliced clearance back to Salmon at Palace in the league cup. They scored from the free kick obviously.
He received a long service award recently, beggars belief!
http://www.greenun24.co.uk/non-league/suffolk_referees_long_service_recognised_1_1353912