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Huhne - Changes Plea

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  • BlackForestReds
    BlackForestReds Posts: 17,952
    Huhne - 8 months.
  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567
    Huhne 8 months.
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,474
    Huhne gets 8 months
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,285
    Any idea on how long Huhne got?
  • BlackForestReds
    BlackForestReds Posts: 17,952
    Pryce - also gets 8 months.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,253
    The pryce is wrong. 8 months as well.
  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567
    Pryce 8 months.
  • Oakster
    Oakster Posts: 6,812
    Henry Irving said:

    Any idea on how long Huhne got?

    in reality - 4 months each ?
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,671
    How does he only get 8 months when Aitken gets 18?

    I'm no fan of Aitken but it doesn't seem particularly fair that Huhne gets less than half his sentence for a similar level of deceit.

    He'll only do 4 months. Derisory sentence.
  • mistrollingin
    mistrollingin Posts: 3,868
    Absolute joke sentence.

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  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,253
    This fella could have been deputy PM, if he had not lost the Lib Dems leadership battle in 2007, by a slender margin against Clegg.

  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,474
    edited March 2013
    LenGlover said:

    How does he only get 8 months when Aitken gets 18?

    Aitken got done for perjury as well.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,962
    shirty5 said:

    This fella could have been deputy PM, if he had not lost the Lib Dems leadership battle in 2007, by a slender margin against Clegg.



    Some politicians seem to make a career out of lies and deception.

    Who can you trust?
  • BowieAddick
    BowieAddick Posts: 1,192
    How long did Leon McKenzie get, I believe he was convicted of the same offence.
  • BlackForestReds
    BlackForestReds Posts: 17,952
    LenGlover said:

    How does he only get 8 months when Aitken gets 18?

    I'm no fan of Aitken but it doesn't seem particularly fair that Huhne gets less than half his sentence for a similar level of deceit.

    He'll only do 4 months. Derisory sentence.

    Different case/facts, Aitken initiated under his own volition a libel case against the Guardian who then produced evidence to support their story, plus he dragged his daughters into it by causing them to lie in court which could have lead to their being jailed as well. This case was initiated by the CPS and Huhne pleaded guilty before it got to the trial stage, albeit only after it was clear that he was guilty, that most likely gave him a few months off.

    As for a derisory sentence - this is about right in my opinion. The point has been made about perjury and both their careers and reputations are in ruins, plus there is a costs hearing to come.

  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,205
    edited March 2013
    I could be wrong, but I thought that only sentences of 12 months or more qualified for the early release scheme? If that's right, the Judge has considered that they will spend more time in gaol than if he had handed down sentences of, say, 15months.
    I suspect that the balance was quite interesting because Huhne should have got a little credit for his (albeit late) guilty plea, meaning the Judge thought he was slightly more culpable than her but she was "penalised" for her "not guily" plea.
  • nolly
    nolly Posts: 12,122
    Does less than four months will get home detention eligibility from two and half months , will be in a cat d by the end of march
  • BlackForestReds
    BlackForestReds Posts: 17,952
    nolly said:

    Does less than four months will get home detention eligibility from two and half months , will be in a cat d by the end of march

    Most likely, but I presume they'll get a few weeks in Wandswoth/Holloway first.

  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,335
    The Pryce is right, come on down.

    Equality. Whatever next.
  • jblockmatt
    jblockmatt Posts: 369
    cafcfan said:

    I could be wrong, but I thought that only sentences of 12 months or more qualified for the early release scheme? If that's right, the Judge has considered that they will spend more time in gaol than if he had handed down sentences of, say, 15months.
    I suspect that the balance was quite interesting because Huhne should have got a little credit for his (albeit late) guilty plea, meaning the Judge thought he was slightly more culpable than her but she was "penalised" for her "not guily" plea.

    dont think he deserves any credit for changing plea that late in the day,imagine he was advised to after costing the taxpayer a fortune already.got what he deserved.

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  • MountsfieldPark
    MountsfieldPark Posts: 2,074
    edited March 2013
    I saw a reference to a disqualified driver who killed someone on the roads recently and got 12 months for it. That truly is a derisory sentence. Our legal system is a very bad joke.
  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567
    cafcfan said:

    I could be wrong, but I thought that only sentences of 12 months or more qualified for the early release scheme? If that's right, the Judge has considered that they will spend more time in gaol than if he had handed down sentences of, say, 15months.
    I suspect that the balance was quite interesting because Huhne should have got a little credit for his (albeit late) guilty plea, meaning the Judge thought he was slightly more culpable than her but she was "penalised" for her "not guily" plea.

    BBC said that the judge knocked 10% off his sentence for pleading not guilty.
  • BlackForestReds
    BlackForestReds Posts: 17,952
    dont think he deserves any credit for changing plea that late in the day,imagine he was advised to after costing the taxpayer a fortune already.got what he deserved.

    He got a 10% reduction for pleading guilty prior to the trial, but he only changed his plea when it was obvious that he was guilty.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,088
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  • kings hill addick
    kings hill addick Posts: 5,781
    I'm no legal specialist but has this chap just got 8 months for telling a lie about who was driving or have I missed something.

    I suspect that there are couples up and down the country that do this all the time - especially where one of them is the major bread winner and the other one has a clear licence.

    I'm not saying its right but compared to violent crimes that I'm led to believe are given similar sentences it does seem like a excessive punishment for, basically, telling a lie?
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,198
    I know where you're coming from KHA I've been on 9 points in the past and was thinking of offloading if I received any more points.... Thankfully I've learnt to slow down and that they do have average speed cameras in motorway roadworks so I can't ignore the limits !

    Although these sentences have acted as a deterrent to me cos I won't slip my points off elsewhere if I ever get too many
  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    kings hill addick said:

    I'm no legal specialist but has this chap just got 8 months for telling a lie about who was driving or have I missed something.

    I suspect that there are couples up and down the country that do this all the time - especially where one of them is the major bread winner and the other one has a clear licence.

    I'm not saying its right but compared to violent crimes that I'm led to believe are given similar sentences it does seem like a excessive punishment for, basically, telling a lie?

    You have a point people who are more of a danger to society don't go to prison and Hune and his ex are not. Ok they may be a bit arrogant but arrogance isn't a criminal offence. Now they will talk about over crowding in our prisons.

    I think very heavy fines and very long hours of community service would have been a bettter sentence.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,205
    kings hill addick said:

    I'm no legal specialist but has this chap just got 8 months for telling a lie about who was driving or have I missed something.

    I suspect that there are couples up and down the country that do this all the time - especially where one of them is the major bread winner and the other one has a clear licence.

    I'm not saying its right but compared to violent crimes that I'm led to believe are given similar sentences it does seem like a excessive punishment for, basically, telling a lie?

    Judges do not like "perverting the course of justice" in any of its guises. They will not and cannot let people off lightly - otherwise no one would have any respect for the due process of law in the courts. An important part of the sentence is not to do with the actual crime itself but to be a deterent to "encourage the others".

    The irony of it all is that Huhne got banned from driving shortly afterwards anyway - for using a mobile! He clearly should consider whether he should ever get behind the wheel of a car again - he must be a totally incompetent driver.
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,989
    The stupidity of this, is that he is a multimillionaire, and could afford to hire a chauffeured car. So losing his licence would not have been a diasaster for him. It was just arrogance that got the better of him and he deserves his sentence.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,630
    cafcfan said:

    kings hill addick said:

    I'm no legal specialist but has this chap just got 8 months for telling a lie about who was driving or have I missed something.

    I suspect that there are couples up and down the country that do this all the time - especially where one of them is the major bread winner and the other one has a clear licence.

    I'm not saying its right but compared to violent crimes that I'm led to believe are given similar sentences it does seem like a excessive punishment for, basically, telling a lie?

    Judges do not like "perverting the course of justice" in any of its guises. They will not and cannot let people off lightly - otherwise no one would have any respect for the due process of law in the courts. An important part of the sentence is not to do with the actual crime itself but to be a deterent to "encourage the others".

    The irony of it all is that Huhne got banned from driving shortly afterwards anyway - for using a mobile! He clearly should consider whether he should ever get behind the wheel of a car again - he must be a totally incompetent driver.
    Must be his eyesight if his choice of women is anything to go by. Left his munter of a wife for another tram smash.

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