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Cedric Evina (ed. Page 9, Signs a New 1-year Contract)
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Disappointed we're losing Evina - played well in the games I watched. Too good to be warming the bench.
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But then what will Golfie do all summer?kentaddick said:"long long summer, why are we getting rid of squad players and first teamers that have injury problems?" Semedo going wasnt the end of the world, he wouldve been a squad player. Anyinsah is a good player but is made of glass. "Same budget as Rochdale", "Powell wont be manager next season". Theres a lot of the same noises coming out of the camp that came out the summer we rebuilt and then won promotion with a record breaking season.
Lets not all jump the gun, eh?0 -
Personally, I would have definitely thought he was worth a two year deal due to
1. Wiggins potential to be snapped up
2. Wiggins potential to get injured
3. That he has shown he has real potential given a run of games
4. The ability to offload on loan if he needs to be shipped out0 -
If it was the case of having no money surely the club would be more likely to listen to offers for Wiggins and therefore not let Ceddy get away.0
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Powell did clearly want Evina to stay as he offered him a new contract.
He didn't offer Waggy, Taylor etc contracts so he didn't have to offer one to Evina.
It so happens that the offer (either the amount or length or both) weren't to Ceddy's liking so he's said "no".
Could be a game of wait and see. If he doesn't get better or we don't get better he might still re-sign.
But remember Michael Stewart? Offered a deal, said not enough, got nothing better and when he asked again was told we'd moved on.
Now it could be Powell thinks CE is a back up player so only worth so much out of his budget.
Or it could be that we have a limited (or even a reduced) budget so can't afford to keep everyone SCP might want.
So out go Fuller and Haynes as too expensive and injury prone to keep. Out go SW, MT and SK as surplus to requirements.
But clearly SCP did want to keep Evina.
It will be a test for SCP to see who he can pick up cheaply and how he integrates the kids, if that is the plan.
But it is far too early to panic. Let's see who we have at Welling, on opening day and 1 Sept.
And for the record and the 100th time Powell never said "same budget as Rochdale". I was sitting next to him when he didn't say it!
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Ahhhh, now I know what a troll is.golfaddick said:more proof that not only do we not have any money we don't have the proverbial pot either.......
we are in for a long,long summer
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I will only be too pleased (and humble) to come on here and praise the signing of a left back, midfielder & a strike force when we do so......just that I expect to be on here bemoaning another goneaway before that happens.0
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Neither did Solly....ozaddick said:
Thanks RJ, however am I correct in thinking neither have league football experience let alone in the Championship?Richard J said:ozaddick said:So who do we have/get in to cover Wiggins if he gets injured/sold? The few games I saw of Evina he played really well.
I think Morgan Fox was one of our better prospects from the Under 21's and I would like to see him given a run out in the Cups next season.Kevin Feely is also a left footed player who can fill in there.
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Neither did Evina....Ross said:
Neither did Solly....ozaddick said:
Thanks RJ, however am I correct in thinking neither have league football experience let alone in the Championship?Richard J said:ozaddick said:So who do we have/get in to cover Wiggins if he gets injured/sold? The few games I saw of Evina he played really well.
I think Morgan Fox was one of our better prospects from the Under 21's and I would like to see him given a run out in the Cups next season.Kevin Feely is also a left footed player who can fill in there.0 -
How close is Fox to breaking through into the first-team squad?
If he's still quite a way away, might be worth upping the wages for Evina this year. Saves on the signing of a new lb if Wiggins gets injured again. Or even give him a 2 year deal and then sell him after 1.0 -
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Can't blame him, he's decent enough but without regular football wasn't going to push on. If Wiggins is staying (hopefully he signs a new contract) he was never likely to break through.
Now we'll really see how serious the club are about bringing through players from the academy. Out of the u21 and u18s it's probably our strongest position. Unlike up front where we need some proven quality I don't see a need to sign a left back as cover for Wiggins.
Fox went from nearly being released last season to regular football in a good u21 side. Holmes-Dennis signed pro on his 17th birthday. Not seen much of him but had that touch of quality and drive as players like Solly, Harriott and Jenkinson did at that age. Edwards was an u16 but played for the u18s ahead of older full backs, forcing Holmes-Dennis to play in other positions.
In our situation other clubs would use the youngsters as back up. Hope we do the same, no reason why one or two can't be at Evina's level at least within a season or so.0 -
Isn't Edwards the player that we thought had decided to join Man U. Maybe Powell persuaded him to stay by enticing him with the chance of first team football much sooner.
Offering Evina a one year deal to me, sounds like the bare minimum contract offer when the manager isn't that bothered about a player, and just wants to get some sort of U24 Development Fee0 -
My guess is that had we not had a player with Fox's potential coming through, we may have offered him a better deal. The key question is whether Fox is going to be rady if called upon next season. If the club think yes, it's sad to see Evina go but better he finds a club where he plays at his age.0
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Fox hasn't even signed a new deal yet!0
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May be more likely he will now!0
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5. If we want to get rid after a year we can get a fee for him.AFKABartram said:Personally, I would have definitely thought he was worth a two year deal due to
1. Wiggins potential to be snapped up
2. Wiggins potential to get injured
3. That he has shown he has real potential given a run of games
4. The ability to offload on loan if he needs to be shipped out
@Richard J We won't get a development fee.
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Sad to see Evina go as I think he was a decent backup. But at the end of the day, as long as we keep Wiggins then backup is all he was every going to be so I won't get carried away.
I have also heard good things about Fox & Edwards and the couple of times I have seen Holmes Dennis he has looked fantastic so hope there is sufficient cover from the kids.
I will start to worry if Solly, Wiggins, Morrison, Hamer, Pritchard, Kermogant & Powell are not signed up to longer contracts pretty damn quick as I think I am right in saying they all run out in 12 months time and they are our best players and most saleable assets. In addition the kids need to be signed up PDQ too as so far we have heard nothing about their contracts.0 -
Kap10 said:
5. If we want to get rid after a year we can get a fee for him.AFKABartram said:Personally, I would have definitely thought he was worth a two year deal due to
1. Wiggins potential to be snapped up
2. Wiggins potential to get injured
3. That he has shown he has real potential given a run of games
4. The ability to offload on loan if he needs to be shipped out
@Richard J We won't get a development fee.
Are you sure about this because there seems to be some dispute? I genuinely was not sure,but he is Under 24 still.
On Sky's site about Marlon Park who we are supposed to be after they claim Cheltenham will get a fee even though he was originally at Pompey.
Surely if they will get a fee for Pack we should get one for Ceddy.
The Sky article is below:
Sky Sports understands Charlton and Sheffield Wednesday are tracking Cheltenham midfielder Marlon Pack.
Pack's current deal at Cheltenham expires next month and he has rejected several offers from the club to extend his contract.
The 22-year-old is keen to play at a higher level than League Two and the news has alerted a host of clubs in League One and the Championship.
Pack has impressed for Cheltenham over the last few seasons and has been named in the PFA League Two Team of the Season for the last two years.
Charlton and Sheffield Wednesday are thought to be admirers of the goalscoring midfielder and are weighing up moves for the former Portsmouth youngster.
Cheltenham would be entitled to a compensation fee for Pack if he leaves the club because he is under the age of 24.
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Don't see how you would get any compensation if he is out of contract.0
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I too was going to question this. Did a bit of googling and can't find any reason why we wouldn't get a compensation fee.0
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This.Danny Addick said:Powell doesn't fancy him that much or he wouldn't have tried every sod under the son ahead of him instead
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Didn't really rate him tbh0
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Unless it is deemed that the offer we made him was less favourable than his current terms. But it seems the only thing Ceddy is unhappy about is the length not the wages etc.0
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He showed his ability away at Watford, and seemed like a decent lad.
However, he's a backup and so it's not the end of the world that he's moved on.
Wish him good luck.0 -
I presume you have to offer the player a contract, at least as good as the previous one, to get compensation.carly burn said:Don't see how you would get any compensation if he is out of contract.
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I wonder if his spat on Twitter this week with some Charlton fans had something to do with his decision ?0
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Playing week in week out, would be the reason, instead of having a row on the web.Bedsaddick said:I wonder if his spat on Twitter this week with some Charlton fans had something to do with his decision ?
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I'm pretty certain I am right, but that means very little. Lets see what happens. Of course he has to find a club.Richard J said:Kap10 said:
5. If we want to get rid after a year we can get a fee for him.AFKABartram said:Personally, I would have definitely thought he was worth a two year deal due to
1. Wiggins potential to be snapped up
2. Wiggins potential to get injured
3. That he has shown he has real potential given a run of games
4. The ability to offload on loan if he needs to be shipped out
@Richard J We won't get a development fee.
Are you sure about this because there seems to be some dispute? I genuinely was not sure,but he is Under 24 still.
On Sky's site about Marlon Park who we are supposed to be after they claim Cheltenham will get a fee even though he was originally at Pompey.
Surely if they will get a fee for Pack we should get one for Ceddy.
The Sky article is below:
Sky Sports understands Charlton and Sheffield Wednesday are tracking Cheltenham midfielder Marlon Pack.
Pack's current deal at Cheltenham expires next month and he has rejected several offers from the club to extend his contract.
The 22-year-old is keen to play at a higher level than League Two and the news has alerted a host of clubs in League One and the Championship.
Pack has impressed for Cheltenham over the last few seasons and has been named in the PFA League Two Team of the Season for the last two years.
Charlton and Sheffield Wednesday are thought to be admirers of the goalscoring midfielder and are weighing up moves for the former Portsmouth youngster.
Cheltenham would be entitled to a compensation fee for Pack if he leaves the club because he is under the age of 24.
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Depending on the date of the contract offer we will be due a development fee if he moves within England. Here's the relevant rule (which I have borrowed from another forum discussing the same thing)
(ii) There shall be no right to a compensation or transfer fee by the previous club of a Player who has attained the age of 24 years on or before 30th June and whose contract with that Club has expired. If a Club wishes to offer re-engagement to a Player or exercise an option contained in the agreement the following practice shall prevail.
(iii) Within 7 days of the first Saturday in May, or the date of the last competitive Match of the Club’s first team, whichever is the later, the Club
must give notice in writing to the Player indicating that either the Club offers a re-engagement or, if appropriate, exercises any option contained in the agreement.
(iv) If the notice offers re-engagement it must specify the period which the Club is prepared to agree and the terms and conditions to apply, which must be the same or not less favourable overall than those which applied during the initial period of employment – or the option period (if applicable).
(v) The Player must notify in writing the Club holding the registration within
28 days of receipt of the said notice whether or not the offer of re-engagement is accepted.
(vi) If the offer is rejected the Player is immediately free to negotiate with another Club.
(vii) If the Player does not reply in writing to the offer of re-engagement
then at the expiry of a period of 28 days, the Player is free to negotiate with another Club.
(viii) In either of the instances as set out in Rules C1(j)(vi) and (vii) above,
the Club holding the Player’s registration has the right to receive
compensation. The Player’s registration for the new Club will not be accepted until such time as the Club has confirmed in writing to The Association that it will negotiate a compensation fee with the former Club failing which it will abide by any decision taken by an appeal committee comprising those persons pursuant to Rule C1(j)(xii) (a “League Appeals Committee”).0 -
Whats the story with the problem with some fans (please) ?Bedsaddick said:I wonder if his spat on Twitter this week with some Charlton fans had something to do with his decision ?
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