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Hairdresser loses £26,000 by paying her wages into the wrong account each month - and not realising

You would have thought that they would have checked their statement at some point within the 2 years. Sounds fishy. But wouldn't you love to have been the recipient.
A woman who paid £26,000 of wages into the wrong bank account over two years has been left unable to get her missing money back - after the recipient spent it.
Hairdresser Sally Donaldson logged onto the joint Nationwide account that she shares with her husband in May 2010 to arrange for £1,000 to be transferred into it from her HSBC business account each month.
But unbeknown to Mrs Donaldson, although she had entered the correct account name and sort code, she had keyed one digit of the account number incorrectly and the money was sent to the wrong person.

Out of pocket: Nationwide customer Sally Donaldson has told how she lost £26,000 by paying her wages into the wrong bank account for two years after typing the wrong account number on her online bank account
It has proved a costly mistake for Mrs Donaldson - she didn't realise that the money was being paid into the wrong account for more than two years, by which time some £26,650 had gone awry.
Unfortunately for Mrs Donaldson, the recipient of the money had spent it and is refusing to pay it back.
The building society says that there is nothing that it can do to retrieve the funds, and they can't even identify the recipient due to data protection laws.

Although Mrs Donaldson is legally entitled to demand the cash back, retrieving it in practice is a more complicated matter.
She told The Guardian: 'Phone calls to Nationwide that night, many tears and numerous subsequent calls and letters, have left us with just £1,000 returned and a complete blank of information from Nationwide.
'We have been reluctant to tell anyone we know about the error, so have dwelled heavily on it ourselves.
'It leaves a sick feeling in my stomach to think someone has been spending all that hard-earned money and I've been going to work – running my own hairdresser's business – when I could have been enjoying a little more time at home with my two sons.'

At a loss: Mrs Donaldson didn't realise that the money was being paid into the wrong account for more than two years as she only receives online statements (file picture)
Mrs Donaldson did not realise that the cash wasn't reaching her and her husband's Nationwide account - the couple only receive online statements, Mrs Donaldson would only check the balance if she went to a cash machine and her husband sorted out all the bills.
Nationwide says that it has never encountered a case of 'mis-applied credit' that went on for so long.
Although legally Nationwide can take funds wrongly attributed to an account back without the account holder's permission up to six years after the error, the building society was unable to take the money back because it had already been withdrawn.
The building society says that they cannot tell if the funds were transferred to another account - the recipient withdrew the cash from ATMs.

Powerless: Nationwide says that it is unable to retrieve Mrs Donaldson's money as the recipient has spent it and is unwilling to reimburse her the money itself
Neither it nor HSBC are willing to reimburse Mrs Donaldson as the mistake was down to customer error and they say that it could encourage fraud if they begin to pay back customers who transfer money to the wrong account.
Her family has been hit particularly hard by the loss of the money - her and her husband, a public sector worker, earn less than £50,000 a year between them and live in a modest semi-detached house.
The couple ended up going overdrawn for a period because they struggled without her income.
Taking her case to the Financial Services Ombudsman, the body which regulates banks and building societies might not help Mrs Donaldson's case either - it can only make a ruling if the bank has made a mistake and has no powers to get the money back from the other account holder.
Although the body says that it receives around 100 complaints about mis-applied credit each year, they are mostly from people who have wrongly been credited extra funds and believe that they should be able to keep the money.
Unfortunately for them, the law does not entitle them to a penny.

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  • Thank you Mrs. Donaldson. I hope the payments continue as I found them very useful :-)
  • "But unbeknown to Mrs Donaldson, although she had entered the correct account name and sort code, she had keyed one digit of the account number incorrectly and the money was sent to the wrong person."

    Surely if the sort code and account name don't match the account number then the transfer should not have been set up in the first place? To me, that seems like an error by Nationwide and they should reimburse.
  • WSSWSS
    edited February 2013
    I don't think any banks looks at the name.

    You can put in anything really when transferring cash - certainly a flaw.
  • so her and her husband earn less than £50,000 a year but dont realise £26,000 (around £1100 p/m) over two years isnt going in?
  • How can you not notice 26k going missing?!

    If you were a millionaire then fair enough but that's a years wages for her
  • WSS said:

    I don't think any banks looks at the name.

    You can put in anything really when transferring cash - certainly a flaw.

    If it was me I'd be referring (in court probably) back to the initial instruction to the bank and saying "I instructed you to transfer £1000/month to a/c number abcdefgh, sort code rs-tu-vw in the name of Mr & Mrs Donaldson. Did you carry out that instruction?".

  • Something fishy going on there
  • She's only got herself to blame, she should have checked her bank account. Can't be that badly off if she hasn't missed £1000 per month for two years.
  • Bit of cash in hand goin on over those two years I reckon!
  • Rizzo said:

    WSS said:

    I don't think any banks looks at the name.

    You can put in anything really when transferring cash - certainly a flaw.

    If it was me I'd be referring (in court probably) back to the initial instruction to the bank and saying "I instructed you to transfer £1000/month to a/c number abcdefgh, sort code rs-tu-vw in the name of Mr & Mrs Donaldson. Did you carry out that instruction?".

    The article say she typed in the details herself online.
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  • Rizzo said:

    WSS said:

    I don't think any banks looks at the name.

    You can put in anything really when transferring cash - certainly a flaw.

    If it was me I'd be referring (in court probably) back to the initial instruction to the bank and saying "I instructed you to transfer £1000/month to a/c number abcdefgh, sort code rs-tu-vw in the name of Mr & Mrs Donaldson. Did you carry out that instruction?".

    The article say she typed in the details herself online.
    I know. The point is, she gave them 3 details - the name, the account number and the sort code. At most 2 of those details were correct so the bank did not carry out the instructions she gave. They carried out different instructions.

  • The actual name of an account means little to a payment.
    It is all based on the sort code / account number.

    Just as when you put in name and address when enterign card details, as the long as the total numbers entered equal the total of the numbers in your address including post code it will usually accept the instructions.
  • Bank systems are very much number driven these days, so if the sort code and account number are valid then a transaction will go through. That said, anti-money laundering and fraud checks should pick out names at some stage and identify the error. Potential also that the Nationwide should have picked up on the receipts as unusual activity - over and above the normal credits to that account. Not sure there isn't more to this, but she should definitely pursue through the FOS.
  • I'd still be arguing the case as if the name is unimportant then the bank should not be asking for it.
  • Short BACS and sides.
  • No doubt someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I have always thought that knowingly retaining monies or property which you have no right to and which is not yours is an offence under the Theft Act. If that is the case surely this dozy bint has a case for prosecution and should get ob involved.

    Criminal proceedings would (rightly) been threatened if not instigated if it had been benefits that had been claimed/ kept incorrectly.
  • TelMc32 said:

    Bank systems are very much number driven these days, so if the sort code and account number are valid then a transaction will go through. That said, anti-money laundering and fraud checks should pick out names at some stage and identify the error. Potential also that the Nationwide should have picked up on the receipts as unusual activity - over and above the normal credits to that account. Not sure there isn't more to this, but she should definitely pursue through the FOS.

    Not for a regular £1000 per month it wouldn't, but agree sounds more to it.

  • It does raise a bigger issue though, surely some form of error message should've come back to her along the lines of "the account number entered does not match the name and sort code"

    Obviously it's mainly her fault but the banks system must surely hold some responsibilty
  • I'm sure she'll be cutting her losses.
  • I'm sure if Nationwide had suffered financial loss, they would have stopped at nothing to get the money back.
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  • The Nationwide made an error on my account a few years back. I did some work for them and when they paid me, rather than sending me just over £10,000 they sent me just over £1M due to "fat fingers".

    I held on to it for a couple of days just to make them sweat but then paid it back.

    There must be more to this though. Even if she was earning £25k pa, most people would notice within a few days of the month end that half of her esarnings were going missing!!
  • Ther has to be more to this story.

    I've often wondered what would happen when I pay myself each month if I messed up with the recipient details (me). I think I know the answer now.

  • If i'm going to send money to a 'new' account then I always send an initial £5 and check it arrived.
  • JWADDICK said:

    No doubt someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I have always thought that knowingly retaining monies or property which you have no right to and which is not yours is an offence under the Theft Act. If that is the case surely this dozy bint has a case for prosecution and should get ob involved.

    Criminal proceedings would (rightly) been threatened if not instigated if it had been benefits that had been claimed/ kept incorrectly.

    I think so too but try getting the old bill to do anything about it! The unintentional recipient would have known that the money was not their own to spend, so it could well be a Theft Act matter. In addition the Building Society is wrong to say they cannot disclose the other customer's details because of the Data Protection Act. There is an opt out from non-disclosure in section 29(1) for the purposes of prevention or detection of crime, so they can disclose the details to the appropriate authorities (police in this case). In fact they should have reported the matter to the plod themselves.
    There were, back in the day, plausibility checks on bank account numbers based on, say, Modulus 11. I wonder if that system has gone by the board? If not, it stood a good chance of protecting this customer as it would have been unlikely that she could have mistakenly chosen another account number which would have actually have existed.
  • This looks like an ill thought out scam. The mystery account holder trousers the cash and the bank pays it back, victimless crime. Either that or they have off the radar wealth from off the radar sources and didn't notice the odd grand not coming in from the laundry
  • Maybe the recipient thought of it as a type of fringe benefit.
  • Police are already combing the area for clues
  • Police are already combing the area for clues

    LOL
    Probably within a hairs bredth of apprehending someone.

  • This is head and shoulders above any other banking story I have heard....
  • If the recipient receives the money, he will know it's not his. Theft.
    And if the matter came to court, then the recipient would be disclosed and charged.


    If it is perhaps a scam by our hairdresser friend to 'lose' the money, into another account (perhaps to avoid tax). Fraud.


    Or it might just be a cock-up. Sh!t happens.
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