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  • I don't particulary like where this is heading.. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41375302

  • I fear he's going to tweet his way into a confrontation and a lot of people will die. He has no idea what he's doing and he's not listening to the experts around him.

    Senior aides to President Trump repeatedly warned him not to deliver a personal attack on North Korea’s leader at the United Nations this week, saying insulting the young despot in such a prominent venue could irreparably escalate tensions and shut off any chance for negotiations to defuse the nuclear crisis.

    ....

    A detailed CIA psychological profile of Kim, who is in his early 30s and took power in late 2011, assesses that Kim has a massive ego and reacts harshly and sometimes lethally to insults and perceived slights.


    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-fg-trump-northkorea-20170922-story.html
  • SDAddick said:


    I fear he's going to tweet his way into a confrontation and a lot of people will die. He has no idea what he's doing and he's not listening to the experts around him.

    Senior aides to President Trump repeatedly warned him not to deliver a personal attack on North Korea’s leader at the United Nations this week, saying insulting the young despot in such a prominent venue could irreparably escalate tensions and shut off any chance for negotiations to defuse the nuclear crisis.

    ....

    A detailed CIA psychological profile of Kim, who is in his early 30s and took power in late 2011, assesses that Kim has a massive ego and reacts harshly and sometimes lethally to insults and perceived slights.


    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-fg-trump-northkorea-20170922-story.html
    Ahh...he really is a President reflective of our social media obsessed times isn't he? Is there not an emoji he could have just used instead of having ti expend all those words threatening another countries Foreign Minister...
  • SDAddick said:


    I fear he's going to tweet his way into a confrontation and a lot of people will die. He has no idea what he's doing and he's not listening to the experts around him.

    Senior aides to President Trump repeatedly warned him not to deliver a personal attack on North Korea’s leader at the United Nations this week, saying insulting the young despot in such a prominent venue could irreparably escalate tensions and shut off any chance for negotiations to defuse the nuclear crisis.

    ....

    A detailed CIA psychological profile of Kim, who is in his early 30s and took power in late 2011, assesses that Kim has a massive ego and reacts harshly and sometimes lethally to insults and perceived slights.


    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-fg-trump-northkorea-20170922-story.html
    The problem is, the Cheeto in Chief has the same personality. The slightest perceived slights and off he goes on a twitter rant.

    We saw that this week with he's disinvitation of the Golden State Warriors. He could have taken the high road, but that's really not the Trump way.
  • I bet if you got Trump and Kim in a room together they'd get on like a house on fire.
  • SDAddick said:

    I bet if you got Trump and Kim in a room together they'd get on like a house on fire.

    I say make it happen
  • edited September 2017
    SDAddick said:

    I bet if you got Trump and Kim in a room together they'd get on like a house on fire.

    SDAddick said:

    I bet if you got Trump and Kim in a room together they'd get on like a house on fire.

    I say make it happen
    Actually why can't this take place. It would be so easy for both to meet facilitated by China. A way out for both without losing face.

  • Even if Donald does start a nuclear war and millions are wiped out his supporters will still be defending him.

    How low can people's expectations go? What does he actually have to do to lose his support?

    It's like the most moronic guest from the Jeremy Kyle show has been offered a chance to be US President.
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  • N Korea now saying the US has effectively declared war. So they can shoot down American planes wherever they can.
  • iainment said:

    N Korea now saying the US has effectively declared war. So they can shoot down American planes wherever they can.

    I'd like to see then try (actually I wouldn't)
  • iainment said:

    N Korea now saying the US has effectively declared war. So they can shoot down American planes wherever they can.

    I'd like to see then try (actually I wouldn't)
    Good job they can't then!
  • iainment said:

    N Korea now saying the US has effectively declared war. So they can shoot down American planes wherever they can.

    I'd like to see then try (actually I wouldn't)
    Good job they can't then!
    What makes you think they can't?
  • America won't fly any planes close enough to them!
  • America won't fly any planes close enough to them!

    That BBC link above suggests that they already have!

  • Well if Trump puts planes in the air anywhere near the Korean Peninsula then he really is the fucktard we have suspected he is.

    Time for the USA to take a step back and de escalate the situation. Both countries are now being very stupid indeed.
  • They won't put any planes where there is a realistic prospect they will be shot down.
  • I wonder if those pesky stealth planes are buzzing around as I type.
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  • They won't put any planes where there is a realistic prospect they will be shot down.

    Well let's hope not but they did exactly that just a couple of days ago.

  • They won't put any planes where there is a realistic prospect they will be shot down.

    well that's just about anywhere in the world then. North Korean agents/special forces are more than capable of bringing down a plane with a SAM anywhere.
  • Fat Goutboy and the Orange Turd are really a marriage made in heaven - which one is more intent on kicking off the conflict?
  • They won't put any planes where there is a realistic prospect they will be shot down.

    They shot one down in the Nixon era, killed 31 U.S. soldiers. Even Nixon didn't retaliate, with developing China relations at an important stage.

    It's also worth remembering KJU declared war on the U.S. a couple of years ago, when the government ignored NK's call to pull Sony's mediocre stoner comedy, The Interview, from cinemas.
  • Dont forget the Korean War from the 50s isnt technically over so North Korea are still at War with the South and the United States regardless.

    They simply signed a ceasefire which could be ended by anyone whenever they wanted to without any declarations surely?
  • SDAddick said:


    I fear he's going to tweet his way into a confrontation and a lot of people will die. He has no idea what he's doing and he's not listening to the experts around him.
    Can you imagine how this will look in history books? "In 2017 the US were taken to the brink of nuclear war because in between rounds of golf, the President refused to put his phone down and get off social media."
  • RedPanda said:

    SDAddick said:


    I fear he's going to tweet his way into a confrontation and a lot of people will die. He has no idea what he's doing and he's not listening to the experts around him.
    Can you imagine how this will look in history books? "In 2017 the US were taken to the brink of nuclear war because in between rounds of golf, the President refused to put his phone down and get off social media."
    Only to be expected when a mad man is given the keys to the gun cabinet.
  • Well if Trump puts planes in the air anywhere near the Korean Peninsula then he really is the fucktard we have suspected he is.

    Time for the USA to take a step back and de escalate the situation. Both countries are now being very stupid indeed.

    Getting a bit tired of you seemingly blaming Trump all the time with scarcely a bad word to say about North Korea......speaking for myself here, but I would appreciate it if you could be just a bit more even handed.
    North Korea is a rogue state, the truly evil goings on there don't bear thinking about.
    Yes, Trump is a bit of a weird one but the North Korean regime are quite simply in a different league and shouldn't be tolerated by any civilised nation on earth.
    The US isn't run by politicians as such, but by lawyers in various positions of power who Trump and any other President come to that, have to run things by.
    As much as you may think it, he isn't in total control just as any prime minister isn't in total control in The UK.
    The possibility of him waking up one morning and deciding I'm gonna first strike and press the red button today is just not an option.....it would have to go through numerous fail safe channels before that became a reality.......which includes deep and detailed discussion with all manner of people in positions of power.....it just wouldn't happen.
    That may well not be the case with a retaliatory strike of course.....he may well have a very different chain of command in such circumstances.
    However........I dread to think what those fail safe actions are in North Korea re first strike implementation, indeed are there any.....it just doesn't bear thinking about!
  • Well if Trump puts planes in the air anywhere near the Korean Peninsula then he really is the fucktard we have suspected he is.

    Time for the USA to take a step back and de escalate the situation. Both countries are now being very stupid indeed.

    Getting a bit tired of you seemingly blaming Trump all the time with scarcely a bad word to say about North Korea......speaking for myself here, but I would appreciate it if you could be just a bit more even handed.
    North Korea is a rogue state, the truly evil goings on there don't bear thinking about.
    Yes, Trump is a bit of a weird one but the North Korean regime are quite simply in a different league and shouldn't be tolerated by any civilised nation on earth.
    The US isn't run by politicians as such, but by lawyers in various positions of power who Trump and any other President come to that, have to run things by.
    As much as you may think it, he isn't in total control just as any prime minister isn't in total control in The UK.
    The possibility of him waking up one morning and deciding I'm gonna first strike and press the red button today is just not an option.....it would have to go through numerous fail safe channels before that became a reality.......which includes deep and detailed discussion with all manner of people in positions of power.....it just wouldn't happen.
    That may well not be the case with a retaliatory strike of course.....he may well have a very different chain of command in such circumstances.
    However........I dread to think what those fail safe actions are in North Korea re first strike implementation, indeed are there any.....it just doesn't bear thinking about!
    There are very few fail safe channels in the US when it comes to nuclear weapons

    http://uk.businessinsider.com/nuclear-weapons-trump-how-are-launched-2017-8
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