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Most recent player to over-perform regularly for England

I am trying to think of a player that may have performed well for his club but excelled for England. I'm struggling - Stuart Pearce is about the best I can do. Maybe, Teddy Sheringham but anyone recently?
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  • Rachel Yankey
  • You might be better off thinking about it the other way round mate. Much easier.
  • Darius Vassell
  • David Beckham post Greece freekick
  • Dont think ive seen Ashley Cole have a bad game for England but ive seen him chuck a couple of stinkers for Chelsea
  • Steve Stone
  • Franny Jeffers. 100% goals to games ratio for England. And he only cost us £2.5million
  • Peter Crouch?
  • Good shout!
  • Better than a goal every other game, although you could argue that the oppostition wasn't of the highest standard. Still a great record.
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  • Lampard .. though he regularly 'over performs' for both Chelsea & England
  • Better than a goal every other game, although you could argue that the oppostition wasn't of the highest standard. Still a great record.

    It's a record that looks good on paper but, to the best of my knowledge, he scored every single one of those goals against opposition ranked lower than England. In other words, he couldn't score against anyone decent! Looks good on paper though and I would probably still have played him against the 'minnows' which still manage to get into the World and European Championships, especially in qualifying.

  • Darius Vassell

    beaten to it
  • Rizzo said:

    Better than a goal every other game, although you could argue that the oppostition wasn't of the highest standard. Still a great record.

    It's a record that looks good on paper but, to the best of my knowledge, he scored every single one of those goals against opposition ranked lower than England. In other words, he couldn't score against anyone decent! Looks good on paper though and I would probably still have played him against the 'minnows' which still manage to get into the World and European Championships, especially in qualifying.

    be interesting to know who he played against that was above us in the rankings.

    Whenever we play anyone decent we shit ourselves and went 1 up top...which was usually Rooney.
  • Crouch might be a good one? Always managed to stick one in during his robot phase.
  • Crouch might be a good one? Always managed to stick one in during his robot phase.

    Good shout! Wish I'd thought of that...

  • Rizzo said:

    Crouch might be a good one? Always managed to stick one in during his robot phase.

    Good shout! Wish I'd thought of that...

    Ahh! Didn't realise, well played.
  • Jeffers - one game, one goal.
  • What about Crouch?

    Surprised he ain't got a mention already.....

    ; )
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  • David Nugent, 1 sub appearance, 1 goal, who has been pretty anonymous since. He hasn't dramatically fallen fron grace like Jeffers, but rather has just been fairly average.
  • Rizzo said:

    Better than a goal every other game, although you could argue that the oppostition wasn't of the highest standard. Still a great record.

    It's a record that looks good on paper but, to the best of my knowledge, he scored every single one of those goals against opposition ranked lower than England. In other words, he couldn't score against anyone decent! Looks good on paper though and I would probably still have played him against the 'minnows' which still manage to get into the World and European Championships, especially in qualifying.

    I heard that myth about Crouch only being able to score against weak opposition a long time ago and I looked into it to find this excellent (and incredibly in-depth) article about it

    http://www.ongoalsscored.com/2011/08/07/the-peter-crouch-myth/

    It's worth a read and it does show that it's not really a fair accusation to level at Crouch
  • Pele only scored against teams ranked lower than Brazil.
  • Darius Vassell

    this is probably the best shout

  • Addickted said:

    Pele only scored against teams ranked lower than Brazil.

    Messi's rubbish, he's only ever played well against teams worse than Barcelona.
  • Owen Hargreaves
  • Hart this year seems to play much better for England than he does for Man City
  • Danny welbeck
  • Darius Vassell

    this is probably the best shout

    First player who sprung to my mind too...
  • Rizzo said:

    Better than a goal every other game, although you could argue that the oppostition wasn't of the highest standard. Still a great record.

    It's a record that looks good on paper but, to the best of my knowledge, he scored every single one of those goals against opposition ranked lower than England. In other words, he couldn't score against anyone decent! Looks good on paper though and I would probably still have played him against the 'minnows' which still manage to get into the World and European Championships, especially in qualifying.

    I heard that myth about Crouch only being able to score against weak opposition a long time ago and I looked into it to find this excellent (and incredibly in-depth) article about it

    http://www.ongoalsscored.com/2011/08/07/the-peter-crouch-myth/

    It's worth a read and it does show that it's not really a fair accusation to level at Crouch
    Thanks for the link. Very interesting read. Judging by goals per minutes played, Crouch averaged almost a goal every game. He scored important goals against a range of opposition and, as stated in the article, if England would have scored against supposedly weak oppostion oppostion (Macedonia) they would have qualified for Euro 2008 and if a goal was managed againt Algeria, we would have faced Ghana instead of Germany in the World Cup, not that you can go through tournaments hoping to avoid the big-guns!
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