Most recent player to over-perform regularly for England

thai malaysia addick

I am trying to think of a player that may have performed well for his club but excelled for England. I'm struggling - Stuart Pearce is about the best I can do. Maybe, Teddy Sheringham but anyone recently?

Leroy Ambrose

Rachel Yankey

paulsturgess

You might be better off thinking about it the other way round mate. Much easier.

francis4england

Darius Vassell

DeeBee

David Beckham post Greece freekick

ValleyGary

Dont think ive seen Ashley Cole have a bad game for England but ive seen him chuck a couple of stinkers for Chelsea

bolloxbolder

Steve Stone

Garrymanilow

Franny Jeffers. 100% goals to games ratio for England. And he only cost us £2.5million

Rizzo

Peter Crouch?

Addick in SW16

Good shout!

Addick in SW16

Better than a goal every other game, although you could argue that the oppostition wasn't of the highest standard. Still a great record.

Lincsaddick

Lampard .. though he regularly 'over performs' for both Chelsea & England

Rizzo

Addick in SW16 said:

Better than a goal every other game, although you could argue that the oppostition wasn't of the highest standard. Still a great record.

It's a record that looks good on paper but, to the best of my knowledge, he scored every single one of those goals against opposition ranked lower than England. In other words, he couldn't score against anyone decent! Looks good on paper though and I would probably still have played him against the 'minnows' which still manage to get into the World and European Championships, especially in qualifying.

Absurdistan

Heskey

McBobbin

francis4england said:

Darius Vassell

beaten to it

ValleyGary

Rizzo said:

Addick in SW16 said:

Better than a goal every other game, although you could argue that the oppostition wasn't of the highest standard. Still a great record.

It's a record that looks good on paper but, to the best of my knowledge, he scored every single one of those goals against opposition ranked lower than England. In other words, he couldn't score against anyone decent! Looks good on paper though and I would probably still have played him against the 'minnows' which still manage to get into the World and European Championships, especially in qualifying.

be interesting to know who he played against that was above us in the rankings.

Whenever we play anyone decent we shit ourselves and went 1 up top...which was usually Rooney.

SELR_addicks

Crouch might be a good one? Always managed to stick one in during his robot phase.

Rizzo

SELR_addicks said:

Crouch might be a good one? Always managed to stick one in during his robot phase.

Good shout! Wish I'd thought of that...

SELR_addicks

Rizzo said:

SELR_addicks said:

Crouch might be a good one? Always managed to stick one in during his robot phase.

Good shout! Wish I'd thought of that...

Ahh! Didn't realise, well played.

BlackForestReds

Jeffers - one game, one goal.

BIG_ROB

What about Crouch?

Surprised he ain't got a mention already.....

; )

killerandflash

David Nugent, 1 sub appearance, 1 goal, who has been pretty anonymous since. He hasn't dramatically fallen fron grace like Jeffers, but rather has just been fairly average.

Garrymanilow

Rizzo said:

Addick in SW16 said:

Better than a goal every other game, although you could argue that the oppostition wasn't of the highest standard. Still a great record.

It's a record that looks good on paper but, to the best of my knowledge, he scored every single one of those goals against opposition ranked lower than England. In other words, he couldn't score against anyone decent! Looks good on paper though and I would probably still have played him against the 'minnows' which still manage to get into the World and European Championships, especially in qualifying.

I heard that myth about Crouch only being able to score against weak opposition a long time ago and I looked into it to find this excellent (and incredibly in-depth) article about it

http://www.ongoalsscored.com/2011/08/07/the-peter-crouch-myth/

It's worth a read and it does show that it's not really a fair accusation to level at Crouch

Addickted

Pele only scored against teams ranked lower than Brazil.

kinveachyaddick

francis4england said:

Darius Vassell

this is probably the best shout

SELR_addicks

Addickted said:

Pele only scored against teams ranked lower than Brazil.

Messi's rubbish, he's only ever played well against teams worse than Barcelona.

AdTheAddicK

Owen Hargreaves

Tewkesbury_Addick

Hart this year seems to play much better for England than he does for Man City

Dave2l

Danny welbeck

Algarveaddick

kinveachyaddick said:

francis4england said:

Darius Vassell

this is probably the best shout

First player who sprung to my mind too...

Addick in SW16

Garrymanilow said:

Rizzo said:

Addick in SW16 said:

Better than a goal every other game, although you could argue that the oppostition wasn't of the highest standard. Still a great record.

It's a record that looks good on paper but, to the best of my knowledge, he scored every single one of those goals against opposition ranked lower than England. In other words, he couldn't score against anyone decent! Looks good on paper though and I would probably still have played him against the 'minnows' which still manage to get into the World and European Championships, especially in qualifying.

I heard that myth about Crouch only being able to score against weak opposition a long time ago and I looked into it to find this excellent (and incredibly in-depth) article about it

http://www.ongoalsscored.com/2011/08/07/the-peter-crouch-myth/

It's worth a read and it does show that it's not really a fair accusation to level at Crouch

Thanks for the link. Very interesting read. Judging by goals per minutes played, Crouch averaged almost a goal every game. He scored important goals against a range of opposition and, as stated in the article, if England would have scored against supposedly weak oppostion oppostion (Macedonia) they would have qualified for Euro 2008 and if a goal was managed againt Algeria, we would have faced Ghana instead of Germany in the World Cup, not that you can go through tournaments hoping to avoid the big-guns!