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Zimmerman aquitted

Can't believe he is walking. At least it shows we are not the only country with a dubious legal system.
Civil rights groups in the US have expressed dismay after neighbourhood watchman George Zimmerman was found not guilty of murdering black teenager Trayvon Martin in Florida last year.

Rights leader Jesse Jackson said he was "stunned" and that the Department of Justice (DoJ) should intervene.

Meanwhile Mr Zimmerman's family and lawyers have said they now fear he could face revenge attacks.

The case sparked a fierce debate in the US about racial profiling.


Trayvon Martin's relatives say they are "hurt" and "disappointed" over the verdict
Prosecutors had argued that Mr Zimmerman opened fired on 26 February 2012 because he assumed that Trayvon Martin, who was African-American and was wearing a hooded sweatshirt as he walked in the rain, was up to no good.

But the defence said he shot Trayvon Martin in self defence after the teenager had punched their client, slammed his head into the pavement and reached for Mr Zimmerman's gun.

Defence 'ecstatic'
Mr Zimmerman was facing possible conviction for second-degree murder or manslaughter, but on Saturday he was cleared of all charges by the six-women jury at Seminole County Criminal Justice Center in Sanford, Florida.

Protesters converged on the Seminole County Criminal Justice Centre shortly after the jury retired to consider its verdict - a couple of dozen of them at first. Then, on the second day of deliberations, a larger and louder group whose numbers slowly started to grow. They stood chanting and staring up at the fifth floor window of the courthouse, where the all-women jury was considering its verdict.

Then, when signs of movement suddenly filled that window, the crowd erupted into a frenzy. The excitement was short-lived however: As word spread of George Zimmerman's acquittal reached them a sense of sadness - sometimes mixed with anger - filled the hot and humid summer night.

Police and community leaders in central Florida have appealed for calm, but with further protests planned, they've drawn up contingency plans just in case this verdict is met with a violent response.

One of his lawyer's, Mark O'Mara, said the defence team were "ecstatic".

"George Zimmerman was never guilty of anything except protecting himself in self defence. I'm glad that the jury saw it that way," he said.

Another defence lawyer, Don West, said the prosecution had been "disgraceful".

"As happy as I am for George Zimmerman, I'm thrilled that this jury kept this tragedy from becoming a travesty," he said.

However, following the verdict, protest marches were staged in US cities including San Francisco, Philadelphia, Chicago, Washington and Atlanta.

In Oakland, California, some protesters started small fires and smashed windows.

Civil rights leader Jesse Jackson told CNN on Sunday: "I remain stunned at the decision. The Department of Justice must intervene to take this to another level."

It appears to be very difficult for black Americans to seek justice in the legal system”

In a Facebook posting, he said "the American legal system has once again failed justice". But he also appealed for calm, saying anyone seeking to "compound our pain with street justice" would do "damage to the innocent blood and legacy of Trayvon Martin".

Right activist Al Sharpton also appealed for calm, but said the verdict was "a slap in the face to the American people".

He compared the case to the beating of African-American man Rodney King by police in 1991, which sparked widespread rioting.

Campaign group the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) has launched a petition demanding that the DoJ open a civil rights case against Mr Zimmerman.

Its president, Benjamin Todd Jealous, wrote: "The most fundamental of civil rights - the right to life - was violated the night George Zimmerman stalked and then took the life of Trayvon Martin."

Revenge fears
Daryl Parks, lawyer for the Martin family, told BBC News he hoped the case would be a wake-up call for the US.

'Stand Your Ground' laws

Provide that people who fear for their lives can use deadly force to defend themselves without having to flee a confrontation
Cited by Florida police after they released George Zimmerman without charge on the night of the shooting
Allows use of deadly force if citizen believes it is necessary "to prevent death or great bodily harm" or "imminent commission of a forcible felony"
Critics say they encourage a "shoot first" attitude
At least 33 states allow use of deadly force in self-defence, according to Association of Prosecuting Attorneys
US media on Zimmerman verdict
"Many will realise that if there is a law that would allow you to kill an unarmed teenager, then that's a law that we probably should look at and change," he said.

Florida police had angered many by not arresting Mr Zimmerman for six weeks after the shooting, citing the state's controversial "stand your ground" law, which allows a citizen to use lethal force if he or she feels in imminent danger.

But Mr Parks said the trial had given the US "a new perspective on black life - when a young black person gets killed, the approach that it takes to investigate, to arrest the person that did it".

Mr Zimmerman's brother, Robert, and his lawyers said they were concerned for his safety.

Meanwhile Mr Zimmerman's family and representatives have said they are afraid he could fall victim to revenge attacks.

His brother, Robert said he had received frequent threats on social media and there was "more reason now than ever to think that people are trying to kill him".

"He's going to be looking over his shoulder the rest of his life," he said.
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Comments

  • I read about this eyebrow-raising acquittal earlier today on the BBC website. Someone said: "Zimmerman has been found innocent, but the State of Florida is guilty."
  • Only two people truly know what went on and one of them is dead I'm afraid
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sL2f0PoqME

    (warning, possibly nsfw language and racial epithets are used, but dont let that detract from the point he's making)
  • I love America, I still believe it's humanity's success story but, for me and what I've heard if this case, is a unacceptable decision.
  • Good showing KA, I've got my opinion and it is saying with me.
  • se9addick said:

    I love America, I still believe it's humanity's success story but, for me and what I've heard if this case, is a unacceptable decision.

    An estimated 200 million Native Americans might disagree with that statement.

  • Have to say, from what I've read/seen about this case, the verdict leaves a bad taste in my mouth. As much as I actually respect America for, sometimes they don't half baffle me.
  • se9addick said:

    I love America, I still believe it's humanity's success story but, for me and what I've heard if this case, is a unacceptable decision.

    An estimated 200 million Native Americans might disagree with that statement.

    Cheers, but they'd probably point that finger of accusation towards ethnic Brits
  • The media coverage of this case has been incredibly biased.

    So much so that I sort of wanted Zimmerman to get off.
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  • The country has been heading for disaster ever since the dubious election of George Bush in 2000. The divisions are huge and the Right is seriously psycho. The Tea Party are selling shirts saying "911 takes too long, I reload faster", and they are a genuine political force. This case is just another example of the way the country is going, and it's not impossible that a Sarah Palin/Michelle Bachmann type person could well be President, with 51% loving them, and 49% detesting every decision. Every time I think the UK is bad, I just look over there and thank my lucky stars that we do have as many psychos.
  • se9addick said:

    se9addick said:

    I love America, I still believe it's humanity's success story but, for me and what I've heard if this case, is a unacceptable decision.

    An estimated 200 million Native Americans might disagree with that statement.

    Cheers, but they'd probably point that finger of accusation towards ethnic Brits
    Only a small part of the North American continent was settled when we lost the war of independence. The majority of native Americans (within the settled N.A) fought with us, and many emigrated North to Canada after the war. It was a huge mistake by the British Govt not to protect our Allies in the peace treaty, but we did protect many when we stopped American expansion into Canada.
    The majority of the genocide started with Andrew Jacksons passing of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Removal_Act

  • The country has been heading for disaster ever since the dubious election of George Bush in 2000. The divisions are huge and the Right is seriously psycho. The Tea Party are selling shirts saying "911 takes too long, I reload faster", and they are a genuine political force. This case is just another example of the way the country is going, and it's not impossible that a Sarah Palin/Michelle Bachmann type person could well be President, with 51% loving them, and 49% detesting every decision. Every time I think the UK is bad, I just look over there and thank my lucky stars that we do have as many psychos.

    Seriously mis-informed by the liberal media. The Tea-Party simply believes that government is too big and costs too much. That is their only agenda.

  • limeygent said:

    The country has been heading for disaster ever since the dubious election of George Bush in 2000. The divisions are huge and the Right is seriously psycho. The Tea Party are selling shirts saying "911 takes too long, I reload faster", and they are a genuine political force. This case is just another example of the way the country is going, and it's not impossible that a Sarah Palin/Michelle Bachmann type person could well be President, with 51% loving them, and 49% detesting every decision. Every time I think the UK is bad, I just look over there and thank my lucky stars that we do have as many psychos.

    Seriously mis-informed by the liberal media. The Tea-Party simply believes that government is too big and costs too much. That is their only agenda.

    Says the resident tea party booster on CharltonLife...
  • edited July 2013
    Is Zimmerman Hispanic?
  • RZA said:

    The media coverage of this case has been incredibly biased.

    So much so that I sort of wanted Zimmerman to get off.

    The prosecution did a lousy job, and had a very weak case. The legal process was followed, and this is the outcome, like it or not.

  • Vast majority of people have no idea what the evidence is in defence and/or prosecution of Zimmerman and are still "outraged" by the decision. All the media says is "black kid with skittles shot by white man" and people go absolutely mental.

    Like the video above suggests, if Zimmerman was black this would have barely made local news...
  • The country has been heading for disaster ever since the dubious election of George Bush in 2000. The divisions are huge and the Right is seriously psycho. The Tea Party are selling shirts saying "911 takes too long, I reload faster", and they are a genuine political force. This case is just another example of the way the country is going, and it's not impossible that a Sarah Palin/Michelle Bachmann type person could well be President, with 51% loving them, and 49% detesting every decision. Every time I think the UK is bad, I just look over there and thank my lucky stars that we do have as many psychos.

    Either Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann could do a better job than the current President, the worst ever.

  • limeygent said:

    The country has been heading for disaster ever since the dubious election of George Bush in 2000. The divisions are huge and the Right is seriously psycho. The Tea Party are selling shirts saying "911 takes too long, I reload faster", and they are a genuine political force. This case is just another example of the way the country is going, and it's not impossible that a Sarah Palin/Michelle Bachmann type person could well be President, with 51% loving them, and 49% detesting every decision. Every time I think the UK is bad, I just look over there and thank my lucky stars that we do have as many psychos.

    Either Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann could do a better job than the current President, the worst ever.

    Riiiiight. To be honest, chief - you're not doing the American right many favours saying stuff like that - because it's quite clearly tosh. I wouldn't trust Bachmann or Palin to run a fu(kin Dunkin' Donuts. Luckily, I suspect, nor would the majority of Americans - no matter how stupid the rest of the world may think they are sometimes.
  • republicans shouldve gone with Ron Paul, but thats besides the point.

    The media made a convinction virtually impossible. Zimmerman now has to live the rest of his life living with the fact he killed somebody and has been vilified by the media he will no longer be able to lead a normal life.
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  • se9addick said:

    se9addick said:

    I love America, I still believe it's humanity's success story but, for me and what I've heard if this case, is a unacceptable decision.

    An estimated 200 million Native Americans might disagree with that statement.

    Cheers, but they'd probably point that finger of accusation towards ethnic Brits
    Only a small part of the North American continent was settled when we lost the war of independence. The majority of native Americans (within the settled N.A) fought with us, and many emigrated North to Canada after the war. It was a huge mistake by the British Govt not to protect our Allies in the peace treaty, but we did protect many when we stopped American expansion into Canada.
    The majority of the genocide started with Andrew Jacksons passing of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Removal_Act

    Thanks for the Wikipedia reference, I know my history!

    What's your point ? If its America's not a great country, you're wrong. If its that you look down on America because you think Britain has no skeletons in the closet, you're wrong. If its that you think this is a fair decision, then despite the decision I think you're wrong.
  • limeygent said:

    The country has been heading for disaster ever since the dubious election of George Bush in 2000. The divisions are huge and the Right is seriously psycho. The Tea Party are selling shirts saying "911 takes too long, I reload faster", and they are a genuine political force. This case is just another example of the way the country is going, and it's not impossible that a Sarah Palin/Michelle Bachmann type person could well be President, with 51% loving them, and 49% detesting every decision. Every time I think the UK is bad, I just look over there and thank my lucky stars that we do have as many psychos.

    Either Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann could do a better job than the current President, the worst ever.

    Riiiiight. To be honest, chief - you're not doing the American right many favours saying stuff like that - because it's quite clearly tosh. I wouldn't trust Bachmann or Palin to run a fu(kin Dunkin' Donuts. Luckily, I suspect, nor would the majority of Americans - no matter how stupid the rest of the world may think they are sometimes.
    I've lived here in The States for 41 years now, and run a small business, believe me, this is the worst president in office since I've been here, for anyone who doesn't have their hand out that is.

  • limeygent said:

    limeygent said:

    The country has been heading for disaster ever since the dubious election of George Bush in 2000. The divisions are huge and the Right is seriously psycho. The Tea Party are selling shirts saying "911 takes too long, I reload faster", and they are a genuine political force. This case is just another example of the way the country is going, and it's not impossible that a Sarah Palin/Michelle Bachmann type person could well be President, with 51% loving them, and 49% detesting every decision. Every time I think the UK is bad, I just look over there and thank my lucky stars that we do have as many psychos.

    Either Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann could do a better job than the current President, the worst ever.

    Riiiiight. To be honest, chief - you're not doing the American right many favours saying stuff like that - because it's quite clearly tosh. I wouldn't trust Bachmann or Palin to run a fu(kin Dunkin' Donuts. Luckily, I suspect, nor would the majority of Americans - no matter how stupid the rest of the world may think they are sometimes.
    I've lived here in The States for 41 years now, and run a small business, believe me, this is the worst president in office since I've been here, for anyone who doesn't have their hand out that is.

    i'm inclined to agree, Obama is up there with Bush as a terrible president.
  • Vast majority of people have no idea what the evidence is in defence and/or prosecution of Zimmerman and are still "outraged" by the decision. All the media says is "black kid with skittles shot by white man" and people go absolutely mental.

    Like the video above suggests, if Zimmerman was black this would have barely made local news...

    The media was describing Zimmerman as "white hispanic".

  • limeygent said:

    The country has been heading for disaster ever since the dubious election of George Bush in 2000. The divisions are huge and the Right is seriously psycho. The Tea Party are selling shirts saying "911 takes too long, I reload faster", and they are a genuine political force. This case is just another example of the way the country is going, and it's not impossible that a Sarah Palin/Michelle Bachmann type person could well be President, with 51% loving them, and 49% detesting every decision. Every time I think the UK is bad, I just look over there and thank my lucky stars that we do have as many psychos.

    Seriously mis-informed by the liberal media. The Tea-Party simply believes that government is too big and costs too much. That is their only agenda.

    Against big government, until it should be allowed to intervene on non-Christian women's uteruses. Yeh, also totally against a government that costs too much, until it involves invading foreign country to gain access to oil for Wall Street. With the greatest respect, I think I'm able to see through the so-called 'liberal media' and that the Tea Party are the ones with the largely mis-informed, Fox-brainwashed supporters.
  • limeygent said:

    limeygent said:

    The country has been heading for disaster ever since the dubious election of George Bush in 2000. The divisions are huge and the Right is seriously psycho. The Tea Party are selling shirts saying "911 takes too long, I reload faster", and they are a genuine political force. This case is just another example of the way the country is going, and it's not impossible that a Sarah Palin/Michelle Bachmann type person could well be President, with 51% loving them, and 49% detesting every decision. Every time I think the UK is bad, I just look over there and thank my lucky stars that we do have as many psychos.

    Either Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann could do a better job than the current President, the worst ever.

    Riiiiight. To be honest, chief - you're not doing the American right many favours saying stuff like that - because it's quite clearly tosh. I wouldn't trust Bachmann or Palin to run a fu(kin Dunkin' Donuts. Luckily, I suspect, nor would the majority of Americans - no matter how stupid the rest of the world may think they are sometimes.
    I've lived here in The States for 41 years now, and run a small business, believe me, this is the worst president in office since I've been here, for anyone who doesn't have their hand out that is.

    We know, big man - you've told us all ad nauseum.

    Waaah, de gubberment won't let me fire my workers when I feel like it. Waaah, de gubberment takes too much money off me in taxes. Waaah, de gubberment doesn't do enough to deter terrorists. Waaah, de gubberment interferes too much in general. Waaah de gubberment

    Tell you what - why don't you come back over here? You'd LOVE it in the UK.
  • limeygent said:

    limeygent said:

    The country has been heading for disaster ever since the dubious election of George Bush in 2000. The divisions are huge and the Right is seriously psycho. The Tea Party are selling shirts saying "911 takes too long, I reload faster", and they are a genuine political force. This case is just another example of the way the country is going, and it's not impossible that a Sarah Palin/Michelle Bachmann type person could well be President, with 51% loving them, and 49% detesting every decision. Every time I think the UK is bad, I just look over there and thank my lucky stars that we do have as many psychos.

    Either Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann could do a better job than the current President, the worst ever.

    Riiiiight. To be honest, chief - you're not doing the American right many favours saying stuff like that - because it's quite clearly tosh. I wouldn't trust Bachmann or Palin to run a fu(kin Dunkin' Donuts. Luckily, I suspect, nor would the majority of Americans - no matter how stupid the rest of the world may think they are sometimes.
    I've lived here in The States for 41 years now, and run a small business, believe me, this is the worst president in office since I've been here, for anyone who doesn't have their hand out that is.

    We know, big man - you've told us all ad nauseum.

    Waaah, de gubberment won't let me fire my workers when I feel like it. Waaah, de gubberment takes too much money off me in taxes. Waaah, de gubberment doesn't do enough to deter terrorists. Waaah, de gubberment interferes too much in general. Waaah de gubberment

    Tell you what - why don't you come back over here? You'd LOVE it in the UK.
    haha quality
  • edited July 2013

    limeygent said:

    The country has been heading for disaster ever since the dubious election of George Bush in 2000. The divisions are huge and the Right is seriously psycho. The Tea Party are selling shirts saying "911 takes too long, I reload faster", and they are a genuine political force. This case is just another example of the way the country is going, and it's not impossible that a Sarah Palin/Michelle Bachmann type person could well be President, with 51% loving them, and 49% detesting every decision. Every time I think the UK is bad, I just look over there and thank my lucky stars that we do have as many psychos.

    Either Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann could do a better job than the current President, the worst ever.

    Riiiiight. To be honest, chief - you're not doing the American right many favours saying stuff like that - because it's quite clearly tosh. I wouldn't trust Bachmann or Palin to run a fu(kin Dunkin' Donuts. Luckily, I suspect, nor would the majority of Americans - no matter how stupid the rest of the world may think they are sometimes.
    Agree entirely. There are deep flaws in the American psyche exploited by Palin, Bachmann et al that are caused in part by decades of aggressive and arrogant foreign policy, and a right to bear arms that evidently militates against a civilised society. One out of every 18 men in the USA is either in jail, on probation, or on parole.

  • se9addick said:

    se9addick said:

    se9addick said:

    I love America, I still believe it's humanity's success story but, for me and what I've heard if this case, is a unacceptable decision.

    An estimated 200 million Native Americans might disagree with that statement.

    Cheers, but they'd probably point that finger of accusation towards ethnic Brits
    Only a small part of the North American continent was settled when we lost the war of independence. The majority of native Americans (within the settled N.A) fought with us, and many emigrated North to Canada after the war. It was a huge mistake by the British Govt not to protect our Allies in the peace treaty, but we did protect many when we stopped American expansion into Canada.
    The majority of the genocide started with Andrew Jacksons passing of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Removal_Act

    Thanks for the Wikipedia reference, I know my history!

    What's your point ? If its America's not a great country, you're wrong. If its that you look down on America because you think Britain has no skeletons in the closet, you're wrong. If its that you think this is a fair decision, then despite the decision I think you're wrong.
    I don't think you do know your history, certainly based on your comments here and above.
    I also struggle to comprehend what you write.

  • limeygent said:

    limeygent said:

    The country has been heading for disaster ever since the dubious election of George Bush in 2000. The divisions are huge and the Right is seriously psycho. The Tea Party are selling shirts saying "911 takes too long, I reload faster", and they are a genuine political force. This case is just another example of the way the country is going, and it's not impossible that a Sarah Palin/Michelle Bachmann type person could well be President, with 51% loving them, and 49% detesting every decision. Every time I think the UK is bad, I just look over there and thank my lucky stars that we do have as many psychos.

    Either Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann could do a better job than the current President, the worst ever.

    Riiiiight. To be honest, chief - you're not doing the American right many favours saying stuff like that - because it's quite clearly tosh. I wouldn't trust Bachmann or Palin to run a fu(kin Dunkin' Donuts. Luckily, I suspect, nor would the majority of Americans - no matter how stupid the rest of the world may think they are sometimes.
    I've lived here in The States for 41 years now, and run a small business, believe me, this is the worst president in office since I've been here, for anyone who doesn't have their hand out that is.

    We know, big man - you've told us all ad nauseum.

    Waaah, de gubberment won't let me fire my workers when I feel like it. Waaah, de gubberment takes too much money off me in taxes. Waaah, de gubberment doesn't do enough to deter terrorists. Waaah, de gubberment interferes too much in general. Waaah de gubberment

    Tell you what - why don't you come back over here? You'd LOVE it in the UK.
    haha quality
    +1
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