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    cafc-west said:
    cafc-west said:
    A quick side note

    ROS is just under £60,000 ahead of Mark Selby in 2nd

    The winner of the China Open gets £225,000

    Mark Selby has won it 2 years in a row and 3 out of the last 4 years and ROS isnt even in the event
    Good point.  Think most snooker fans would agree that ROS is the true No.1 but because he doesn't chase every ranking tournament and doesn't really care about being the "official" No.1 and doesn't want the long haul flights to China (although he seems quite friendly with several of the Chinese payers), the disruption to his family life and doesn't worry about the money then he will never keep the official No.1 status for very long.  Shame really.  Expect to see Selby No.1 again soon.
    Gotta say I disagee
    All weekend comms were saying its amazing that ROS enters so few events and could be world number 1, but he is clever and only enters the events with the most money availble so him winning 1 event earns him more than say a Trump on Selby winnng 2 or 3

    For instance yesterday he won £150,000 the week before the gibraltar open winning got £15,000
    He has publicly stated that he only wants to play the events that are at venues he likes and do not disrupt his personal life too much.  He won't play in Gibraltar not because of the low winnings but because of the travel and the venue.  He has never really chased the money otherwise the £225,000 first prize in China would be enough to pull him there.  He just picks and chooses the events he wants to do and doesn't much care about the ranking/money.  I am aware you don't like him so will find excuses to put him down - but he just does his own thing.
    If you honestly think he doesnt care about the money/ranking pointa you are deluded.

    The travel and being so close to the crucible is something that has stopped him going to China I agree, but you cant say he doesnt care about the money/ranking points.


    My point was that its not so amazing as people like to think that he is world number one despite not playing in everything, when u look at the earning for the events he does play in compared to the others
    You're right in that he does care but not enough to change his options.  He has other priorities.  It's still pretty amazing that he's No.1 with so few (although rewarding) wins - when most of the others chase everything (and who can blame them).  It's only Selby and Williams in contention with ROS for No.1 and, as you said originally, a win for either in China and ROS will be knocked off the No.1 spot.
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    Not having that Paulie. 

    He earned 150 grand yesterday and you've just said that the China Open is 225 grand. 

    Nearly every player is competing for that prize but him. 

    It's absolutely unreal that he's world number 1. The season he's had is ridiculous.
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    He keeps his game fresh by not entering everything. Similar to Federer not playing the clay court season. He has done particularly well this season though, winning more than half of the events he's entered. 
    But I don't think he'll win the world championship.
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    I am not disputting his great season at all, he has done very well, what I am saying is that people say he doesnt care about ranking points/Money, IMO he clearly does and yes he picks and chooses events which keeps him fresh and good on him for doing that but what I am saying is that with the events he enters more often than not its the big prize money and winning those which has been good is why he is world number 1 ATM.

    As I said winning that one event earnt him more than winning the Indian Open, Germans Masters and Gibralter Open combined would have done.

    The thing is no one will no how much he is motivated by the points/money, unless he has a poor season next year and enters a few events he didnt this year.
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    edited April 2019
    China Open has just started, will try to do updates but they may all just come at 1 once, matches arr at stupid times(will for us anyway haha not for the actual event) great timing for the Addicks in China @Stu_of_Kunming @JessieAddick

    2.30AM GMT 9.30 in China
    7.30 AM GMT 14.30 in China

    Then a better time of 12.30 GMT 19.30 in China


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    Will do a proper update later but Mark Selby lost in round 1 to Craig Steadman
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    Will do a proper update later but Mark Selby lost in round 1 to Craig Steadman
    Was played in China but officially it was a qualifying match rather than 1st round

    Gutted. Was hoping Selby could do the treble and win it for a 3rd year in a row.
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    In the absence of @paulie8290.  Quick update.  Big names dropping like flies in China: Selby, Williams, Trump, Higgins and Hawkins all out.  Means Ronnie O'Sullivan will retain the No.1 spot for now.  Nice to see Ken Doherty go through.
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    Due to the time difference and alot going on I havent been to up to date with the China Open but Neil Robertson won it with a 11-4 victory over Jack Lisowski


    Stuart Bingham made Snookers 151st 147 and Stuarts 5th during the event, it puts Bingham joint 5th with Murphy on the list of most 147 
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    I promise the couple of regular readers that come Wednesday and the qualifiers for the Worlds I will be back on top form

    13 days until Sheffield
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    This is the position all the seeded players will be for the worlds

    QUARTER 1

    Mark Williams
    Dave Gilbert
    Barry Hawkins
    Kyren Wilson

    QUARTER 2

    John Higgins
    Stuart Bingham
    Shaun Murphy
    Neil Robertson

    QUARTER 3

    Mark Selby
    Luca Brecel
    Jack Lisowski
    Mark Allen

    QUARTER 4

    Judd Trump
    Ding Junhui
    Stephen Maguire
    Ronnie O'Sullivan
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    Due to the time difference and alot going on I havent been to up to date with the China Open but Neil Robertson won it with a 11-4 victory over Jack Lisowski


    Stuart Bingham made Snookers 151st 147 and Stuarts 5th during the event, it puts Bingham joint 5th with Murphy on the list of most 147 
    I watched most of it all week - getting up early.  Watched the first sessions of the final this morning to see Robertson lead 8-2.  Then in the afternoon when the final session was going to be shown live on Eurosport they stayed with the motorcycle racing!  Really annoying.  They are showing highlights later but was a shame.
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    This is the position all the seeded players will be for the worlds

    QUARTER 1

    Mark Williams
    Dave Gilbert
    Barry Hawkins
    Kyren Wilson

    QUARTER 2

    John Higgins
    Stuart Bingham
    Shaun Murphy
    Neil Robertson

    QUARTER 3

    Mark Selby
    Luca Brecel
    Jack Lisowski
    Mark Allen

    QUARTER 4

    Judd Trump
    Ding Junhui
    Stephen Maguire
    Ronnie O'Sullivan
    Quarter 2 and quarter 4 so much stronger than the other two. 

    Pity Trump and OSullivan could meet as early as the quarters. 
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    Snooker World Championship 2019
    Qualifiers
    1st Round

    1ST QUARTER
    Ryan Day v Oliver Lines
    Tian Pengfei v Soheil Vahedi
    Matthew Stevens v Thor Chuan Leong
    Chris Wakelin v Fan Zhengyi

    Gary Wilson v Sanderson Lam
    Dominic Dale v Chris Totten
    Liang Wenbo v Basem Eltahhan
    Rory McLeod v David Grace

    Robbie Williams v Sam Baird
    Marco Fu v Luo Honghao
    Sam Craigie v Rhys Clark
    Tom Ford v Ross Muir

    Akani Songsermsawad v Chen Zifan
    Robert Milkins v Luke Simmonds
    Duane Jones v Kishan Hirani
    Anthony McGill v Ashley Hugill

    2ND QUARTER
    Graeme Dott v Hamza Akbar
    Xu Si v Sean O'Sullivan
    Stuart Carrington v Pang Junxu
    Kurt Maflin v Mitchell Mann

    Li Hang v Niu Zhuang
    Ian Burns v Farakh Ajaib
    Ben Woollaston v Elliot Slessor
    Mike Dunn v Nigel Bond

    Daniel Wells v Jamie Clarke
    Hossein Vafaei v Zhang Anda
    Gerard Greene v Aaron Hill
    Martin Gould v Mostafa Dorgham

    Michael Georgiou v Lee Walker
    Peter Ebdon v Harvey Chandler
    Mei Xi Wen v Florien Nuessle
    Yan Bingtao v Lukas Kleckers

    3RD QUARTER
    Ali Carter v Paul Davison
    Jimmy White v Ross Bulman
    Michael White v Andy Hicks
    Yuan Sijun v John J Astley

    Ricky Walden v Alfie Burden
    Eden Sharav v David Lilley
    Zhou Yuelong v Robin Hull
    Liam Highfield v Hammad Miah

    Fergal O'Brien v Jackson Page
    Mark Davis v Rod Lawler
    Alexander Ursenbacher v Jordan Brown
    Lyu Haotian v Ashley Carty

    Mark Joyce v Billy Joe Castle
    Thepchaiya Un-Nooh v Johnathan Bagley
    Joe O'Connor v Joe Swail
    Jimmy Robertson v Chen Feilong

    4TH QUARTER
    Xiao Guodong v Jak Jones
    Peter Lines v Zhang Jiangkang
    Michael Holt v Brandon Sargeant
    Andrew Higginson v James Cahill

    Mark King v Igor Figueiredo
    Lu Ning v Allan Taylor
    Scott Donaldson v Craig Steadman
    Ken Doherty v Andy Lee

    Anthony Hamilton v James Wattana
    Matthew Selt v Dylan Emery
    Zhao Xintong v Adam Lilley
    Noppon Saengkham v Adam Stefanow

    Alan McManus v Ng On Yee
    Martin O'Donnell v Adam Duffy
    Zhang Yong v Reanne Evans
    Joe Perry v Simon Lichtenberg
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    Each Quarter I have put into groups of 4, 1 from each group of 4 will be going to Sheffield
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    Updated Draw

    4th Quarter
    Xiao Guodong v Jak Jones
    Peter Lines v Michael Judge
    Michael Holt v Brandon Sargeant
    Andrew Higginson v James Cahill

    Michael Judge has replaced Zhang Jiankang
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    Good work Paulie, I will have a go at predicting from your groups of 4, although its a tough one

    Q1:Day

    Wilson

    Ford

    McGill


    Q:2Carrington

    Li Hang

    Gerard Greene

    Yan Bingtao


    Q3:Carter

    Davis

    Walden

    O' Connor


    Q4:Holt

    Donaldson

    Hamilton

    Perry


    Anyone else up for a prediction comp once all confirmed? happy to run or do with Paulie again as last ones was good fun :)

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    edited April 2019
    World Championship
    1st Qualifying Round
    1 Session Score

    Peter Ebdon 6-3 Harvey Chandler
    Michael Georgiou 5-4 Lee Walker
    Jimmy Robertson 9-0 Chen Feilong
    Thepchaiya Un-Nooh 8-1 Johnathan Bagley
    Mei Xiwen 8-1 Florian Nussle
    Yan Bingtao 6-3 Lukas Kleckers
    Mark Joyce 7-1 Billy Joe Castle
    Michael Holt 6-2 Brandon Sargeant
    Xiao Guodong 4-4 Jak Jones
    Michael Judge 4-2 Peter Lines
    Joe O'Connor 7-1 Joe Swail

    As you can see not all matches completed 9 frames in 1 session, that will probably happen alot over the next few days
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    World Championship
    1st Qualifying Round
    1 Session Score

    Hossein Vafaei 5-4 Zhang Anda
    Martin Gould 9-0 Mostafa Dorgham
    Aaron Hill 5-4 Gerard Greene
    James Cahill 7-2 Andrew Higginson
    Noppon Saengkham 7-2 Adam Stefanow
    Matt Selt 6-3 Dylan Emery
    Daniel Wells 5-4 Jamie Rhys Clarke
    Zhao Xintong 8-1 Adam Lilley
    Gary Wilson 4-4 Sanderson Lam
    Anthony Hamilton 5-2 James Wattana
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    World Championship
    1st Qualifying Round
    Results

    Peter Ebdon 10-4 Harvey Chandler
    Michael Georgiou 10-7 Lee Walker
    Xiao Guodong 10-5 Jak Jones
    Michael Holt 10-5 Brandon Sargeant
    Mark Joyce 10-2 Billy Joe Castle
    Jimmy Robertson 10-0 Chen Feilong
    Thepchaiya Un-Nooh 10-4 Johnathan Bagley
    Mei Xiwen 10-3 Florian Nussle
    Yan Bingtao 10-3 Lukas Kleckers
    Joe O'Connor 10-1 Joe Swail

    Current score
    Michael Judge 8-7 Peter Lines this could go on till 2am if it goes to a final frame decider
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    Ended 10-9 Judge, says it ended 3:52am CET I believe that is a late one!

    Not one shock for me on the first lot, nice to see Joe O'Connor keeping his form up would be nice for him to get there.

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    Good work Paulie, I will have a go at predicting from your groups of 4, although its a tough one

    Q1:Day

    Wilson

    Ford

    McGill


    Q:2Carrington

    Li Hang

    Gerard Greene

    Yan Bingtao


    Q3:Carter

    Davis

    Walden

    O' Connor


    Q4:Holt

    Donaldson

    Hamilton

    Perry


    Anyone else up for a prediction comp once all confirmed? happy to run or do with Paulie again as last ones was good fun :)

    Would like to join in prediction comp again if either of you sort it.

    cheers.
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    I enjoyed last years one, giving double points Semis/Finals really gave a few extra people the opportunity and Paulie the chance to win late on :)

    Do we want a separate thread? or keep on here like last time? Can start once we get in the final stages of qualifying.

    @paulie8920 any input? Did you want to help run or do anything for this.

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    Slight off topic, I looked at betting on these qualifiers yesterday and choose 5/6 players who wasn't 1/10 on and only got back evens. Snooker betting is ridiculous, especially in these earlier rounds might have a look if there are closer games. Did also look to see if I can bet to qualify, couldn't find a market but only checked one site.
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    Ignore that just checked Betfair have odds gone for:

    Hamilton

    Perry

    Davis

    Day

    Yankee

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    Just a quick one for those interested
    World Seniors is about to start in Sheffield and is live on FreeSports

    Cliff Thorburn v Stephen Hendry
    Ken Doherty v Barry Pinches
    Jimmy White v Joe Johnson
    Aaron Canavan v John Parrott
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    World Championship
    1st Qualifying Round
    1 Session Score

    Dominic Dale 5-4 Chris Totten
    Liam Highfield 5-4 Hammad Miah
    Duane Jones 7-2 Kishan Hirani
    Liang Wenbo 9-0 Bassem Eltahhan
    Robert Milkins 6-3 Luke Simmonds
    David Lilley 6-3 Eden Sharav
    Ricky Walden 5-4 Alfie Burden
    Robin Hull 5-4 Zhou Yuelong
    Akani Songsermsawad 6-2 Chen Zifan
    Anthony McGill 5-3 Ashley Hugill
    Rory McLeod 5-2 David Grace
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    World Championship
    1st Qualifying Round
    Results

    Hossein Vafaei 10-4 Zhang Anda
    Martin Gould 10-0 Mostafa Dorgham
    Gerard Greene 10-7 Aaron Hill
    James Cahill 10-9 Andrew Higginson
    Noppon Saengkham 10-3 Adam Stefanow
    Matt Selt 10-3 Dylan Emery
    Daniel Wells 10-5 Jamie Rhys Clarke
    Zhao Xintong 10-2 Adam Lilley
    Gary Wilson 10-5 Sanderson Lam
    Anthony Hamilton 10-9 James Wattana
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