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  • If you're normally a lager man, you can chill the IPA a little if it suits your tastes.
  • Brew dog IPA is decent
  • Anyone been to Craft Beer Rising?

    craftbeerrising.co.uk

    If so, worth it?

    Not been before, but have tickets for 2017.
  • Anyone been to Craft Beer Rising?

    craftbeerrising.co.uk

    If so, worth it?

    Went last year and it was excellent so going again this year. I will say though that so far the list of breweries doesn't look quite as good as the 2016 list
  • @northstandsteve - chill your brewdog! Yes, been to CBR...excellent and will be back on the 25th Feb...
  • Anyone been to Craft Beer Rising?

    craftbeerrising.co.uk

    If so, worth it?

    Went last year and it was excellent so going again this year. I will say though that so far the list of breweries doesn't look quite as good as the 2016 list
    How much is a pint when you are there?

  • edited January 2017
    PopIcon said:

    Anyone been to Craft Beer Rising?

    craftbeerrising.co.uk

    If so, worth it?

    Went last year and it was excellent so going again this year. I will say though that so far the list of breweries doesn't look quite as good as the 2016 list
    How much is a pint when you are there?

    In all honesty I can't remember, we had quite a lot to drink last year! Off the top of my head, I would say around £2-3 a half for most beers, depending on the strength of the beer in question. We stuck to half pints since there were so many breweries and beers to choose from. It wasn't stupidly overpriced like some craft beer places can be, but also wasn't exactly the cheapest beer festival I've been to. Still, I would highly recommend it for anyone into craft beer
  • A friend came over NYE and left some other of his ales, I am going to give them a go they are IPA, one called brew dog or something like that, question is should they be drunk at room temperature or from a fridge ?

    When I was last in the Long Pond @Riviera explained to me that "room temperature" is way too warm for ales and IPAs, contrary to what we previously thought. If I recall rightly, he serves them at 12C. Melissa Cole in her book suggests perhaps even lower than that, down to maybe 8, although she stresses its a matter of personal taste. Lager beers 4-7. Ice cold, 0-4, "Anything you have no interest in tasting" by which she presumably means the big name US and Aussie lagers.

  • A friend came over NYE and left some other of his ales, I am going to give them a go they are IPA, one called brew dog or something like that, question is should they be drunk at room temperature or from a fridge ?

    When I was last in the Long Pond @Riviera explained to me that "room temperature" is way too warm for ales and IPAs, contrary to what we previously thought. If I recall rightly, he serves them at 12C. Melissa Cole in her book suggests perhaps even lower than that, down to maybe 8, although she stresses its a matter of personal taste. Lager beers 4-7. Ice cold, 0-4, "Anything you have no interest in tasting" by which she presumably means the big name US and Aussie lagers.

    Brewdog's beers will be craftbeer, not ale and will usually be served colder than ale.
    Without further info I suggest fridge or leave them outside.
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  • Happy Birthday B, I thought you said the booze had to go ;-)
  • Isn't "craft beer" just a way to get people to pay more for ale?

    Brew Dog have pubs and I went to a couple - didn't stay long - found somewhere serving real ale at sensible prices.

    IMHO ;-)
  • I've had craft lager at gigs & I think Lords where's there was no lager/Guinness alternative. I thought they were yuk.
  • I love craft beer, such a shame that so many good ones are overpriced.
  • Saga Lout said:

    Isn't "craft beer" just a way to get people to pay more for ale?

    Brew Dog have pubs and I went to a couple - didn't stay long - found somewhere serving real ale at sensible prices.

    IMHO ;-)

    Not really, although there are definitely places that take the piss with their pricing (Brewdog included). Unfortunately the term 'craft beer' has been jumped on by mass market companies and used as a buzz word to market their products. To me it is more about smaller, independent breweries creating fresh, new beers and experimenting with new styles and ideas.

    Craft beer doesn't have to mean keg/carbonated beers such as American style IPAs, there are plenty of small UK brewers (Siren, Arbor, Thornbridge) who product a great range of cask beers that can definitely be considered 'craft'. I think the term has been somewhat bastardised so that a lot of people just think of it as fizzy, overpriced beer drunk by hipsters and whilst there is certainly an element of that, it isn't the case on the whole.
  • I should also add that the so called 'craft beer revolution' has revitalised the UK brewing scene and there are a hell of a lot more breweries around now than there were 5-10 years ago, including some fantastic ones in London.

    I think it's a shame that what is a great time for the UK brewing industry sometimes gets viewed as a money making exercise because some places exploit the term for their own ends.

    Btw, this isn't aimed at you @Saga Lout, I'm just used to having to explain this to my friends who think I drink "wanky, hipster rubbish". Which I guess is sometimes true! :wink:
  • I should also add that the so called 'craft beer revolution' has revitalised the UK brewing scene and there are a hell of a lot more breweries around now than there were 5-10 years ago, including some fantastic ones in London.

    I think it's a shame that what is a great time for the UK brewing industry sometimes gets viewed as a money making exercise because some places exploit the term for their own ends.

    Btw, this isn't aimed at you @Saga Lout, I'm just used to having to explain this to my friends who think I drink "wanky, hipster rubbish". Which I guess is sometimes true! :wink:

    This may be seen as sacrilege by some, but I would argue that there are too many nowadays. There are lot's of bandwagon jumpers who have spotted an opportunity because of the surge in interest for real beers rather than the fizzy, sterile offerings of the conglomerates. However, whilst many of these upstarts seem to have brought excellent marketing skills from their erstwhile day jobs, their previous employment has not endowed them with equivalent brewing skills. We therefore see lots of new brewers using 'craft' as a label to sell products that, whilst great improvements on the multinational's offerings aren't really a patch on some of the more established producers of real ales.
  • PopIcon said:

    Anyone been to Craft Beer Rising?

    craftbeerrising.co.uk

    If so, worth it?

    Went last year and it was excellent so going again this year. I will say though that so far the list of breweries doesn't look quite as good as the 2016 list
    How much is a pint when you are there?

    Been CBR a few times. They keep putting the price up and I can't really justify it. Normally about £3.50 for a half but many of the newer start ups will let you have a small glass (taster) for free. It is a nice atmosphere and doesn't get stupidly packed. You will enjoy it.
  • An interesting piece here from Siren Craft Brew, mainly the section on their approach to cask beer and the costs involved sirencraftbrew.com/the-year-beer-ahead/
  • Stig said:

    I should also add that the so called 'craft beer revolution' has revitalised the UK brewing scene and there are a hell of a lot more breweries around now than there were 5-10 years ago, including some fantastic ones in London.

    I think it's a shame that what is a great time for the UK brewing industry sometimes gets viewed as a money making exercise because some places exploit the term for their own ends.

    Btw, this isn't aimed at you @Saga Lout, I'm just used to having to explain this to my friends who think I drink "wanky, hipster rubbish". Which I guess is sometimes true! :wink:

    This may be seen as sacrilege by some, but I would argue that there are too many nowadays. There are lot's of bandwagon jumpers who have spotted an opportunity because of the surge in interest for real beers rather than the fizzy, sterile offerings of the conglomerates. However, whilst many of these upstarts seem to have brought excellent marketing skills from their erstwhile day jobs, their previous employment has not endowed them with equivalent brewing skills. We therefore see lots of new brewers using 'craft' as a label to sell products that, whilst great improvements on the multinational's offerings aren't really a patch on some of the more established producers of real ales.
    That is sacrilege! I love trying new, quality beers. The bandwagon jumpers won't last long.

    No offence taken at all @SotonAddick btw. I'm all for new beers and new beer styles, however I do have a slight problem with the term "craft beer" and any attempt to charge more just because something is marketed as a "premium" product.
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  • I don't know if it has been mentioned on here already but Dark Arts from Magic Rock Brewery is fantastic.
  • I love my real ale and have been open-minded to the whole 'craft'' bandwagon. But what really gets my goat is breweries switching to 330ml bottles and charging more than a 500ml bottle. 50% less beer for more money? Fuck off.

    I love Thornbridge brewery but they've recently switched their entire range from 500ml to 330ml bottles. Cunts!
  • This may be a long shot but can anyone recommend somewhere that shows the football but also sells craft beer in London (preferably fairly central)? My friend and I are doing the Meantime brewery tour on Saturday and then he wants to watch the Southampton v Arsenal game at 5.30 as it is on BT Sports (he's a Saints fan). There are plenty of places that sell craft beer and plenty that show sports but I'm struggling to find places that do both. Any ideas?
  • where is @Riviera ?

    Not seen him post for ages.
  • edited January 2017
    ChiAddick said:

    PopIcon said:

    Anyone been to Craft Beer Rising?

    craftbeerrising.co.uk

    If so, worth it?

    Went last year and it was excellent so going again this year. I will say though that so far the list of breweries doesn't look quite as good as the 2016 list
    How much is a pint when you are there?

    Been CBR a few times. They keep putting the price up and I can't really justify it. Normally about £3.50 for a half but many of the newer start ups will let you have a small glass (taster) for free. It is a nice atmosphere and doesn't get stupidly packed. You will enjoy it.
    So £7 a pint? And some wonder why craft beers wind people up! :)

  • Loving seeing the beer thread at the top of the forum.

    Proper Charlton.

  • Beer is life.
  • ChiAddick said:

    PopIcon said:

    Anyone been to Craft Beer Rising?

    craftbeerrising.co.uk

    If so, worth it?

    Went last year and it was excellent so going again this year. I will say though that so far the list of breweries doesn't look quite as good as the 2016 list
    How much is a pint when you are there?

    Been CBR a few times. They keep putting the price up and I can't really justify it. Normally about £3.50 for a half but many of the newer start ups will let you have a small glass (taster) for free. It is a nice atmosphere and doesn't get stupidly packed. You will enjoy it.
    So £7 a pint? And some wonder why craft beers wind people up! :)
    After £20 entry too!

    Might skip it.
  • I've started working in a pub so have been trying some new stuff and moving away from lager.

    I had it in my head that I just wouldn't like ales but I would go as far to say that at the moment I am preferring them - certainly much easier to have a session on them.

    My favourite so far is Timothy Taylor's Landlord.

    I also like Camden Pale Ale.
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