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  • Sat at home with a mixed case from Verdant Brewery....bloomin lovely...
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,037

    Not drunk in here before so looking forward to a quick one here before retiring to the balcony for a few indoors(too hot to be around 400 bodies in the Bromley S Wspoons).  Unfortunately I'd already bought my drink when I saw the sticker.

    Bromley is smothered with these f****** things.
    PTID?

    **************

    Look at the badge as a clue
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,037
    Sitting in a pub in Shirley, The Sunrise. Nice beer  ( a couple of Westerham ales ) but completely spoilt by being full of Palace Memorabilia  :#
    I'd walk out.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,037
    On the Leffe Blonde, 2 660ml for £5 from Tescos, it breaks you in nicely for the weekend.

    The Belgians need to learn how to run a football club, as for their sherbert they deserve a gold medal.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,037

    A poor mans Leffe Blonde, but still slides down very well.

    6 of these before a game would not be a good idea.
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,900
    lolwray said:
    Will be at the Hastings beer festival this eve ..
    Unfortunately can't make it this year.
    I didn't realise it was more music than beer ...people allowed to bring in their own alcohol which defeated the whole object...
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,024

    Not drunk in here before so looking forward to a quick one here before retiring to the balcony for a few indoors(too hot to be around 400 bodies in the Bromley S Wspoons).  Unfortunately I'd already bought my drink when I saw the sticker.

    Bromley is smothered with these f****** things.
    PTID?
    Text speak for pitied. 
  • Hastingsaddick
    Hastingsaddick Posts: 4,079
    lolwray said:
    lolwray said:
    Will be at the Hastings beer festival this eve ..
    Unfortunately can't make it this year.
    I didn't realise it was more music than beer ...people allowed to bring in their own alcohol which defeated the whole object...
    Haven't been for a couple of years but can't recall people doing that....still I guess it cuts down on the crowds at the bar.
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,964
    This is a loverly pint....


  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474

    Not drunk in here before so looking forward to a quick one here before retiring to the balcony for a few indoors(too hot to be around 400 bodies in the Bromley S Wspoons).  Unfortunately I'd already bought my drink when I saw the sticker.

    Bromley is smothered with these f****** things.
    PTID?

    **************

    Look at the badge as a clue
    Palace Till I Die
    And yes Bromley has been smothered with the crap lately
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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,037
    edited July 2019

    Not drunk in here before so looking forward to a quick one here before retiring to the balcony for a few indoors(too hot to be around 400 bodies in the Bromley S Wspoons).  Unfortunately I'd already bought my drink when I saw the sticker.

    Bromley is smothered with these f****** things.
    PTID?

    **************

    Look at the badge as a clue
    Palace Till I Die
    And yes Bromley has been smothered with the crap lately
    We are too civilised to do things like this, palice are better supported in the Bromley area methinks.
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474

    Not drunk in here before so looking forward to a quick one here before retiring to the balcony for a few indoors(too hot to be around 400 bodies in the Bromley S Wspoons).  Unfortunately I'd already bought my drink when I saw the sticker.

    Bromley is smothered with these f****** things.
    PTID?

    **************

    Look at the badge as a clue
    Palace Till I Die
    And yes Bromley has been smothered with the crap lately
    We are too civilised to do things like this, palice are better supported.
    I did notice a road near Trinity Roundabout,  in Shirley.The street sign had been covered in CAFC graffitti and was called Valley Walk. It made me smile
  • Anna_Kissed
    Anna_Kissed Posts: 3,302

    And another one gone. Molson Coors acquires Hop Stuff.

    From 853London blog: Founder James Yeomans: “In Molson Coors we’ve found a partner who believes wholeheartedly that craft beer should be accessible, inclusive and of exceptionally high and consistent quality"....“I would completely understand if you wanted to wash your hands of us, but I very much hope that you don’t."

    https://853london.com/2019/07/12/hop-stuff-brewery-sells-out-to-carling-owner-and-leaves-local-investors-with-nothing/
  • SheffieldRed
    SheffieldRed Posts: 3,772

    And another one gone. Molson Coors acquires Hop Stuff.

    From 853London blog: Founder James Yeomans: “In Molson Coors we’ve found a partner who believes wholeheartedly that craft beer should be accessible, inclusive and of exceptionally high and consistent quality"....“I would completely understand if you wanted to wash your hands of us, but I very much hope that you don’t."

    https://853london.com/2019/07/12/hop-stuff-brewery-sells-out-to-carling-owner-and-leaves-local-investors-with-nothing/
    Not a great loss, but a sign of a concerning trend. The superior Magic Rock and Beavertown having previously been sold
  • SheffieldRed
    SheffieldRed Posts: 3,772
    @SomervilleAddick had some fantastic beers from New York breweries, Equilibrium, Hudson Valley, Finback and Other Half, great beers 
  • Anna_Kissed
    Anna_Kissed Posts: 3,302
    A loss, nonetheless. Better an Independent than a Mega-Corp. 


  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,024
    Thankfully the corps only seem interested in those independents that sell overpriced, over-hopped 'craft' offerings in brightly coloured cans that can be churned out cheaply, transported easily and sold on with whopping margins. The ones to worry about are those breweries producing real ales where the quality would really suffer if the big boys got their hands on them. Hopefully, it's a market that remains tricky for them to do well in.
  • SheffieldRed
    SheffieldRed Posts: 3,772
    There are certainly some breweries making easy money from average craft beer. But there are a lot of craft breweries now using costly ingredients to make great beers, with a range not made in the UK previously. 
    Both craft and real ale are threatened by the big companies.
    As someone who drinks real ale and craft beer, there are certainly some very good real ales but the great beers at the moment are from the craft market. Willingness to spend on ingredients, collaborate and innovate has seen the craft market set the bench mark for beer. All of which are potentially threatened by being taken over by the big companies.
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970

    And another one gone. Molson Coors acquires Hop Stuff.

    From 853London blog: Founder James Yeomans: “In Molson Coors we’ve found a partner who believes wholeheartedly that craft beer should be accessible, inclusive and of exceptionally high and consistent quality"....“I would completely understand if you wanted to wash your hands of us, but I very much hope that you don’t."

    https://853london.com/2019/07/12/hop-stuff-brewery-sells-out-to-carling-owner-and-leaves-local-investors-with-nothing/
    They went bust, an administration package and not a buy out.
    James Yeoman has screwed over the investors. Baring in mind they've never made good beer, I was surprised they managed to raise the full amount.
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    Stig said:
    Thankfully the corps only seem interested in those independents that sell overpriced, over-hopped 'craft' offerings in brightly coloured cans that can be churned out cheaply, transported easily and sold on with whopping margins. The ones to worry about are those breweries producing real ales where the quality would really suffer if the big boys got their hands on them. Hopefully, it's a market that remains tricky for them to do well in.
    I can assure you making quality beer isn't cheap. The price of new world hops is eye watering.
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  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,024
    PopIcon said:
    Stig said:
    Thankfully the corps only seem interested in those independents that sell overpriced, over-hopped 'craft' offerings in brightly coloured cans that can be churned out cheaply, transported easily and sold on with whopping margins. The ones to worry about are those breweries producing real ales where the quality would really suffer if the big boys got their hands on them. Hopefully, it's a market that remains tricky for them to do well in.
    I can assure you making quality beer isn't cheap. The price of new world hops is eye watering.
    Not to Molson's.
  • @SomervilleAddick had some fantastic beers from New York breweries, Equilibrium, Hudson Valley, Finback and Other Half, great beers 
    Apart from Finback, you don’t see these very much in Boston. I’m going down to NY next week and was going to visit the cluster of breweries in Long Island City, which is northern Queens. Now I’m thinking head south to Other Half. 
  • Stig said:
    PopIcon said:
    Stig said:
    Thankfully the corps only seem interested in those independents that sell overpriced, over-hopped 'craft' offerings in brightly coloured cans that can be churned out cheaply, transported easily and sold on with whopping margins. The ones to worry about are those breweries producing real ales where the quality would really suffer if the big boys got their hands on them. Hopefully, it's a market that remains tricky for them to do well in.
    I can assure you making quality beer isn't cheap. The price of new world hops is eye watering.
    Not to Molson's.
    It is to Molsons accountants. No matter what they say when they buy a brewery, eventually the accountants will identify cost savings to increase the margin. Expensive hops will be on that list. In fact, any expensive ingredient that gives a particular beer it’s character will be on their list. 
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,024
    Stig said:
    PopIcon said:
    Stig said:
    Thankfully the corps only seem interested in those independents that sell overpriced, over-hopped 'craft' offerings in brightly coloured cans that can be churned out cheaply, transported easily and sold on with whopping margins. The ones to worry about are those breweries producing real ales where the quality would really suffer if the big boys got their hands on them. Hopefully, it's a market that remains tricky for them to do well in.
    I can assure you making quality beer isn't cheap. The price of new world hops is eye watering.
    Not to Molson's.
    It is to Molsons accountants. No matter what they say when they buy a brewery, eventually the accountants will identify cost savings to increase the margin. Expensive hops will be on that list. In fact, any expensive ingredient that gives a particular beer it’s character will be on their list. 
    Unarguable.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    There are certainly some breweries making easy money from average craft beer. But there are a lot of craft breweries now using costly ingredients to make great beers, with a range not made in the UK previously. 
    Both craft and real ale are threatened by the big companies.
    As someone who drinks real ale and craft beer, there are certainly some very good real ales but the great beers at the moment are from the craft market. Willingness to spend on ingredients, collaborate and innovate has seen the craft market set the bench mark for beer. All of which are potentially threatened by being taken over by the big companies.
    But then for every new craft or real ale producer who sells out, a new one will open.

    It's an incredibly vibrant sector at the moment, impossible to keep up with! 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,853
    Is there any real difference in the craft beers that come in cans as opposed to bottles?

    for some reason I am put off from buying cans. 
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    MrOneLung said:
    Is there any real difference in the craft beers that come in cans as opposed to bottles?

    for some reason I am put off from buying cans. 
    Cans have the advantage of being light and air tight, unlike bottles, so the beer keeps for longer. 

    I suspect there is a large advertising element as well, as the "wacky" can designs presumably appeal to a particular market. Had a few can and bottles in my beer advent calendar :) no affect on the taste, just remember to pour into a glass
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    On the crouch vale Brewers Gold and a stout from Tring, both excellent pints. Followed up with some pints of red stripe in a plastic cup at a nightclub... First time I've been to one for about a decade. Great night. One mate was sick in the smoking area, another thought he'd pulled a stunner but had to leg it because it turned out she was a prostitute, and nobody knows what happened to our other mate. Bearing in mind his track record, it will be a tale to pull up an armchair and pour a brandy to. Proper spontaneous piss up, the like of which I haven't had since I was a student!
  • Ealing Beer Fest, Thursday had Orpheus (US) cloudy sour beer in a 330cl can. Staggeringly good.
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,741
    I do like a sour beer. Currently trying Vocation - Twisted Sour. 

    Pretty good stuff i reckon.