only 20k ? .. wise move .. London is a bit 'overclubbed' and the Bees are up against Fulham and Chelsea just along the Thames .. if it's a 'lego' design they can always add a few tiers if they ever make it 'big' in the prem .. IF IF it ever gets built !
only 20k ? .. wise move .. London is a bit 'overclubbed' and the Bees are up against Fulham and Chelsea just along the Thames .. if it's a 'lego' design they can always add a few tiers if they ever make it 'big' in the prem
By getting to the prem, do you need a big ground? The TV money along should do. If they do, and they sell out every game, the only thing that will happen is that ticket prices will rise with demand.
only 20k ? .. wise move .. London is a bit 'overclubbed' and the Bees are up against Fulham and Chelsea just along the Thames .. if it's a 'lego' design they can always add a few tiers if they ever make it 'big' in the prem .. IF IF it ever gets built !
The capacity will now only be 17300. Expansion will be hard, the site is very constricted and surrounded by new flats
only 20k ? .. wise move .. London is a bit 'overclubbed' and the Bees are up against Fulham and Chelsea just along the Thames .. if it's a 'lego' design they can always add a few tiers if they ever make it 'big' in the prem
By getting to the prem, do you need a big ground? The TV money along should do. If they do, and they sell out every game, the only thing that will happen is that ticket prices will rise with demand.
well .. say 10,000 more at £40 per home game (low prem prices) = 10,000x40x19 = £7,600,000 + add-ons (catering/programmes etc.) per season .. not to be sneezed at ..
but if what @killerandflash writes is so, it's a moot point anyway
only 20k ? .. wise move .. London is a bit 'overclubbed' and the Bees are up against Fulham and Chelsea just along the Thames .. if it's a 'lego' design they can always add a few tiers if they ever make it 'big' in the prem
By getting to the prem, do you need a big ground? The TV money along should do. If they do, and they sell out every game, the only thing that will happen is that ticket prices will rise with demand.
well .. say 10,000 more at £40 per home game (low prem prices) = 10,000x40x19 = £7,600,000 + add-ons (catering/programmes etc.) per season .. not to be sneezed at ..
but if what @killerandflash writes is so, it's a moot point anyway
The average ticket price will be a lot less, when you factor in season tickets, kids and freebies. Still not to be sneezed at, but probably more like £5mill revenue plus add ons.
Their owner has serious ambitions ? 20k in the PL will seriously impair their ability to compete. I know recent revelations regarding profitability and tickets showed that a lot of PL clubs could roll in a return without tickets but 20k looks too small for any PL club long term.
Their owner has serious ambitions ? 20k in the PL will seriously impair their ability to compete. I know recent revelations regarding profitability and tickets showed that a lot of PL clubs could roll in a return without tickets but 20k looks too small for any PL club long term.
Bournemouth seem to be doing ok in the PL with a tiny ground, in the PL TV money is so great anyway that bums on seats are less important.
And 3000 of the Brentford seats will be premium ones. Easy to sell in the PL
Their owner has serious ambitions ? 20k in the PL will seriously impair their ability to compete. I know recent revelations regarding profitability and tickets showed that a lot of PL clubs could roll in a return without tickets but 20k looks too small for any PL club long term.
I respectfully disagree, I think the writing has been on the wall for a while that match day income is becoming less and less important at the top level, and that's only been further proven by recent revelations.
QPR, Fulham, now Bournemouth, Wigan for about a decade, have all been able to have runs in the Premier League and/or as yo-yo clubs with grounds/fan bases of roughly that size if not smaller. And I'd argue that when those clubs have failed, to the extent they have, it's been due to bad decision making and running out of ideas more than the size of the club per se. And Brentford do seem to be quite methodical and deliberate (arguably for better and worse) in how they go about things.
only 20k ? .. wise move .. London is a bit 'overclubbed' and the Bees are up against Fulham and Chelsea just along the Thames .. if it's a 'lego' design they can always add a few tiers if they ever make it 'big' in the prem
By getting to the prem, do you need a big ground? The TV money along should do. If they do, and they sell out every game, the only thing that will happen is that ticket prices will rise with demand.
well .. say 10,000 more at £40 per home game (low prem prices) = 10,000x40x19 = £7,600,000 + add-ons (catering/programmes etc.) per season .. not to be sneezed at ..
but if what @killerandflash writes is so, it's a moot point anyway
The average ticket price will be a lot less, when you factor in season tickets, kids and freebies. Still not to be sneezed at, but probably more like £5mill revenue plus add ons.
How much would the extra seats cost to put in? Would there be a reduction in capacity whilst the extra seats were being installed? Perhaps they would be happy with selling out 20K every other week.
You only have to look at us and the double tier for the east stand.
Oh for some ambition, something to look forward to other than that Belgian coffin dodger dropping off the perch and plummeting to the bottom covered in bird shit and old Trill...
That area dont look anywhere near big enough to put a Stadium!!
They keep showing signs for the East, West & South Stands, we can all work out where the North should go but why isn't it shown on the video. Surely it's not going to be a three sider ? No that's silly but it does seem an extremely small space. There's train lines that seem very close on two sides ? I'm sure that they know what they're doing & I'm sure that they have a COO who's very involved in the project .......... oh hold on ????
The new capacity is going to be 17,500. That would rank 19th in the PL. In other words, they really would be a yo-yo club at best with such low stadium revenue and more likely, a stalwart Championship Club.
That area dont look anywhere near big enough to put a Stadium!!
The bigger question is parking. Not all fans walk or get public transport to games. Parking in London is a nitemare already - just wonder where fans who drive are going to park....and all the new residents of the flats which are being built to help subsidise it.
That area dont look anywhere near big enough to put a Stadium!!
The bigger question is parking. Not all fans walk or get public transport to games. Parking in London is a nitemare already - just wonder where fans who drive are going to park....and all the new residents of the flats which are being built to help subsidise it.
I'd guess that they have that issue already though seeing that Griffin Park isnt really in a easy area for that
Someone might be able to correct me though on that as I've only ever gotten the train to Brentford
That area dont look anywhere near big enough to put a Stadium!!
The bigger question is parking. Not all fans walk or get public transport to games. Parking in London is a nitemare already - just wonder where fans who drive are going to park....and all the new residents of the flats which are being built to help subsidise it.
I'd guess that they have that issue already though seeing that Griffin Park isnt really in a easy area for that
Someone might be able to correct me though on that as I've only ever gotten the train to Brentford
I drove once, didn't have an issue with parking. Got closer than i have at The Valley.
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Would be ironic if he lost it that way too.
New stadium move until end of delayed until end of next season.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45333562
but if what @killerandflash writes is so, it's a moot point anyway
And 3000 of the Brentford seats will be premium ones. Easy to sell in the PL
QPR, Fulham, now Bournemouth, Wigan for about a decade, have all been able to have runs in the Premier League and/or as yo-yo clubs with grounds/fan bases of roughly that size if not smaller. And I'd argue that when those clubs have failed, to the extent they have, it's been due to bad decision making and running out of ideas more than the size of the club per se. And Brentford do seem to be quite methodical and deliberate (arguably for better and worse) in how they go about things.
You only have to look at us and the double tier for the east stand.
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1038181&page=5
This is a great drone fly through of the construction. Christ I'm a nerd, Charlton, trains and construction websites!
Someone might be able to correct me though on that as I've only ever gotten the train to Brentford