There's already a thread which is basically dedicated to vaguely and not so vaguely sexist remarks (joking or otherwise) yet 2 posts into this one and someone is already mentioning how she looks. It's getting embarrassing.
There's already a thread which is basically dedicated to vaguely and not so vaguely sexist remarks (joking or otherwise) yet 2 posts into this one and someone is already mentioning how she looks. It's getting embarrassing.
This. I know most of the comments are being made in jest, but maybe people should stop and think before they post? How is this all going to look to someone outside the club, or even more importantly to someone who has just bought/joined the club; particularly someone who may not have English as their first language and may not appreciate the tone in which some of the comments are being made?
I hate to be a killjoy, but surely first impressions work both ways?
Not offended as such Calydon, but there have been probably 100+ posts on the subject since Katrien was announced as a new member of our board, the vast majority of them seem to be childish and fairly sexist remarks. Hardly any have been about exactly what her role might be, what her qualifications are etc - which is what we'd be talking about if it was a man.
I get people are just trying to have a bit of a joke, but the ratio of jokes to serious comments says to me she's not being taken seriously because she's a woman.
Imagine she was your daughter and that proudly, having just seen her appointed to the board of directors, you came on here an read the kind of stuff that's being written. I don't think you'd be too happy to read it and would feel like it was 'just a bit of fun'.
Sorry if I'm being a bit of an over sensitive kill-joy, but personally I think the level of casual sexism that's tolerated on the forum has become too high and the same kind of attitudes would not be tolerated towards ethnic minorities or the disabled, for example.
There's already a thread which is basically dedicated to vaguely and not so vaguely sexist remarks (joking or otherwise) yet 2 posts into this one and someone is already mentioning how she looks. It's getting embarrassing.
This. I know most of the comments are being made in jest, but maybe people should stop and think before they post? How is this all going to look to someone outside the club, or even more importantly to someone who has just bought/joined the club; particularly someone who may not have English as their first language and may not appreciate the tone in which some of the comments are being made?
I hate to be a killjoy, but surely first impressions work both ways?
Yep. And they will see your post as well
balanced...thats the way we like it
in the end, i dont expect any doris that has succeeded in football like Mme.Merie has would have such a thin skin as to be offended
Not offended as such Calydon, but there have been probably 100+ posts on the subject since Katrien was announced as a new member of our board, the vast majority of them seem to be childish and fairly sexist remarks. Hardly any have been about exactly what her role might be, what her qualifications are etc - which is what we'd be talking about if it was a man.
I get people are just trying to have a bit of a joke, but the ratio of jokes to serious comments says to me she's not being taken seriously because she's a woman.
Imagine she was your daughter and that proudly, having just seen her appointed to the board of directors, you came on here an read the kind of stuff that's being written. I don't think you'd be too happy to read it and would feel like it was 'just a bit of fun'.
Sorry if I'm being a bit of an over sensitive kill-joy, but personally I think the level of casual sexism that's tolerated on the forum has become too high and the same kind of attitudes would not be tolerated towards ethnic minorities or the disabled, for example.
Charlton Athletic has a rich history, a cherished stadium, spent many years in the Premier League and has produced many talented young players over the years. = Thats how I am going to make my money back, by selling them.
Richard will act as the spokesperson for the board = If you don't like anything shout at Richard I don't care.
I would also like to introduce Ms Katrien Meire who has been appointed onto the board and will be working at The Valley from now on. = The cow would not sleep with me so she is going to have work in SE7 now
Supporters can be assured that I will be following the team’s fortunes very closely. = You better get some decent results Mr Powell, I am watching you
It is a new era for Charlton and an exciting time for myself and the board. We will do our best to make sure there are many more reasons to be proud to be associated with the club in the years to come. = I'm selling shortly
Copied from the interview with a Belgian journo thread (Charente Addick)
- no reason to doubt RD - wise, lot of money, good advisors, makes the right decisions - Thuram coming to CAFC next week & maybe the Iranian striker in future - CAFC very new to him - wants to break even then make profit - wants to increase value of (young) players starting them at smaller clubs then progressing to bigger clubs - he need a 'network' to achieve this (mentioned this strategy a couple of times). - Network of clubs also gives a solution to players not playing - he thought CAFC was at the top of his network (ahead of Liege) - is in football for 10-15 years (incl. CAFC) - very much a businessman/principled but has a 'golden heart' - he is 'safe hands' (not another goalie!) - wants to get to the Prem - is 'amused' by CAFC management & coaching staff (I think he means likes rather than is amused by
Sounded a bit of a PR job t mean and disappointingly no questions were asked about the new director just announced
Copied from the interview with a Belgian journo thread (Charente Addick)
- no reason to doubt RD - wise, lot of money, good advisors, makes the right decisions - Thuram coming to CAFC next week & maybe the Iranian striker in future - CAFC very new to him - wants to break even then make profit - wants to increase value of (young) players starting them at smaller clubs then progressing to bigger clubs - he need a 'network' to achieve this (mentioned this strategy a couple of times). - Network of clubs also gives a solution to players not playing - he thought CAFC was at the top of his network (ahead of Liege) - is in football for 10-15 years (incl. CAFC) - very much a businessman/principled but has a 'golden heart' - he is 'safe hands' (not another goalie!) - wants to get to the Prem - is 'amused' by CAFC management & coaching staff (I think he means likes rather than is amused by
Sounded a bit of a PR job t mean and disappointingly no questions were asked about the new director just announced
I think the fact that this new director was at liege and is now here helps confirm to me that CAFC are at the top of his "network". Exciting times in that case!
Is about time that some these comments were vetted ?People have been moaning about several thing,s,on and off the field and when someone comes in and tries to improve the club all we get is people saying derogatory remarks about new owners.
Is about time that some these comments were vetted ?People have been moaning about several thing,s,on and off the field and when someone comes in and tries to improve the club all we get is people saying derogatory remarks about new owners.
Not true.
Derogatory remarks were not "all we get". And the negative statements were mostly about the statement not the owners.
Some were positive, some wanted more info beyond a very brief and superficial statement. Don't see a problem
Pretty underwhelmed / disappointed by this. Most seem to be reading positives into his comments about Powell but as far as i can see hes saying hes interested in powells plans for the rest of the season ( ie when his contract runs out) and not whether he will necessarily be given the chance to execute them. He should be saying im gonna sort the contracts out asap, powells done a great job heres a five year deal, and ps im installing undersoil heating
Copied from the interview with a Belgian journo thread (Charente Addick)
- no reason to doubt RD - wise, lot of money, good advisors, makes the right decisions - Thuram coming to CAFC next week & maybe the Iranian striker in future - CAFC very new to him - wants to break even then make profit - wants to increase value of (young) players starting them at smaller clubs then progressing to bigger clubs - he need a 'network' to achieve this (mentioned this strategy a couple of times). - Network of clubs also gives a solution to players not playing - he thought CAFC was at the top of his network (ahead of Liege) - is in football for 10-15 years (incl. CAFC) - very much a businessman/principled but has a 'golden heart' - he is 'safe hands' (not another goalie!) - wants to get to the Prem - is 'amused' by CAFC management & coaching staff (I think he means likes rather than is amused by
Sounded a bit of a PR job t mean and disappointingly no questions were asked about the new director just announced
I think the fact that this new director was at liege and is now here helps confirm to me that CAFC are at the top of his "network". Exciting times in that case!
Yes. I particularly like that bit too. Especially considering SL are currently playing Champions League football!
Although it seems to be a simple run of the mill greeting message, there seems to be a few positives. Chris Powell seems to be certain to the end of the season at least and he seemed to have a high opinion of Richard Murray, which hopefully means he we listen to his advice. I'm not sure if he sees us as top of the food chain, but if we are and he pays attention to those that care about Charlton we could see wonderful things happen, maybe we are going to get the luck we deserve at last?
What I will say though is give it time, to the same people that want Chris Powell out because we had a bad run despite the promotion and then marginally missing out on the play off places, don't start calling for heads on sticks straight away if things don't turn around over night. If RD starts selling our assets and our players and bleeds us dry, by all means go for blood, if not give him time, we have no idea how much mess he has to clear up, we also don't know for sure what his long term plans are, so just sit back and enjoy the ride.
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So who's this bint then?
I hate to be a killjoy, but surely first impressions work both ways?
I get people are just trying to have a bit of a joke, but the ratio of jokes to serious comments says to me she's not being taken seriously because she's a woman.
Imagine she was your daughter and that proudly, having just seen her appointed to the board of directors, you came on here an read the kind of stuff that's being written. I don't think you'd be too happy to read it and would feel like it was 'just a bit of fun'.
Sorry if I'm being a bit of an over sensitive kill-joy, but personally I think the level of casual sexism that's tolerated on the forum has become too high and the same kind of attitudes would not be tolerated towards ethnic minorities or the disabled, for example.
balanced...thats the way we like it
in the end, i dont expect any doris that has succeeded in football like Mme.Merie has would have such a thin skin as to be offended
Richard will act as the spokesperson for the board = If you don't like anything shout at Richard I don't care.
I would also like to introduce Ms Katrien Meire who has been appointed onto the board and will be working at The Valley from now on. = The cow would not sleep with me so she is going to have work in SE7 now
Supporters can be assured that I will be following the team’s fortunes very closely. = You better get some decent results Mr Powell, I am watching you
It is a new era for Charlton and an exciting time for myself and the board. We will do our best to make sure there are many more reasons to be proud to be associated with the club in the years to come. = I'm selling shortly
Roland Duchâtelet. The Govenor
- no reason to doubt RD - wise, lot of money, good advisors, makes the right decisions
- Thuram coming to CAFC next week & maybe the Iranian striker in future
- CAFC very new to him - wants to break even then make profit
- wants to increase value of (young) players starting them at smaller clubs then progressing to bigger clubs - he need a 'network' to achieve this (mentioned this strategy a couple of times).
- Network of clubs also gives a solution to players not playing
- he thought CAFC was at the top of his network (ahead of Liege)
- is in football for 10-15 years (incl. CAFC)
- very much a businessman/principled but has a 'golden heart'
- he is 'safe hands' (not another goalie!) - wants to get to the Prem - is 'amused' by CAFC management & coaching staff (I think he means likes rather than is amused by
Sounded a bit of a PR job t mean and disappointingly no questions were asked about the new director just announced
Derogatory remarks were not "all we get". And the negative statements were mostly about the statement not the owners.
Some were positive, some wanted more info beyond a very brief and superficial statement. Don't see a problem
Keep the faith
i read it opposite. He has given him the season. And thats what scp needs
Powelly wants 5 yr contracts for wiggins and stephens
He is a big enough man..
if he gets those we finish 9th again then roland will sign him for life
scp is "cherished"
is spekkers jim..
but not as we know it
i am proud of the admonishment of me for the 'but.would.u'
i am a self declared post feminist and i only learnt the would you and the penos from CL
i am glad to be challenged. Discourse is great
What I will say though is give it time, to the same people that want Chris Powell out because we had a bad run despite the promotion and then marginally missing out on the play off places, don't start calling for heads on sticks straight away if things don't turn around over night. If RD starts selling our assets and our players and bleeds us dry, by all means go for blood, if not give him time, we have no idea how much mess he has to clear up, we also don't know for sure what his long term plans are, so just sit back and enjoy the ride.