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Charlton v Barnsley - GAME OFF!! - ABSOLUTE JOKE
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You say you can't see the owners not agreeing to doing the work if they were pressurised by the groundstaff.ct_addick said:You all the say the ground staff are not to blame but I was at the Doncaster game ( my first game in 4 years) in August and the efforts of the ground staff to clear the water were pathetic. They looked very amateurish. This is not a public park playing field. If they knew there was a major problem they should have pushed for the work to be done in the summer. Sorry but this is down to the ground staff. Just taking off the top layer and reseeding in the summer in no way addressed the issue and I can't see the owners not agreeing to the work for the sake of a few thousand pounds if they were pressured by the ground staff. I am back in 2 weeks for Bournemouth game and now fear for that game.
But how can employees put that pressure on owners?
We could all see that the pitch was poor last season.
The ground staff suggested what was needed and costed it at 28k.
The management said "no, do the cheapest 20k option".
The groundstaff can't be expected to go over their managers' heads direct to the owners and demand more money, especially in an organisation where staff have already been sacked or driven out in large numbers by those very managers.
I expect that more attempts will be made to blame the poor bloody infantry when it is the officers to blame.
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I cannot believe that the club can't get this problem fixed quickly and cheaply even if only as a temporary measure. A network of narrow trenches can be dug, filled with gravel, ag pipe installed, then turfed over (French drains) and the pipes plumbed into any working drain. I did this for my constantly waterlogged lawn in Oz. Was quoted 8 grand, but hired a machine and driver, and did it myself for 750 dollars. A small team of Charlton fans with Paddy could get this done on a weekend. It's a very efficient way of draining surface water and will continue working until the ag pipes get blocked with silt.Fanny Fanackapan said:
I'd like to believe that this form of advice /investigation was undertaken some time ago, and if not, certainly as soon as the Oxford game was postponed last Saturday.micks1950 said:
If they definitely know that the drains have collapsed (as has been stated) then presumably it’s been confirmed by using a cctv ‘drain cam’? In which case it would almost certainly have been done by a professional drain company who I would hope have also advised whether the broken pipes can be remotely relined (involving ‘blowing’ a new resin impregnated lining into the pipe which then sets hard).ValleyGary said:
That's one lucky guy.ShootersHillGuru said:I imagine the new Sporting Director is as we speak having someone strung up by the bollox.
The oxford game on Tuesday May as well be changed to their ground. It's the FA cup, they can do it. If a clubs too small they can change the fixture to an away tie. Same if your pitch is too shit.
If we go out, then it won't be a bad thing as we are gonna have a fixture pile up at this rate anyway.
In terms of the drainage, surely there's something we can do about it over the next few weeks with a bit of investment?? It's the 21st century ffs.
However, if the collapse is due to movement (sudsidence?) of the enlarged North Stand (as I think has been suggested) then it’s possible that this might even need some sort of underpinning to effect a proper solution?
I'd also like to think that a meeting was held from 1.30pm today to discuss the way forward with this predicament - one which would appease both the FL, Oxford, our opponents at home in the near future and the paying customers of our Club- US .
Whether there is a short term solution ( or rather "band aid ") to take us successfully to May or whether that scenario is out of the question (ie no guarantees it would continue to work in light of the winter months ahead) a decision has to be made NOW. Otherwise we will continue to lurch from one match to the next, worrying about what Michael Fish has to say each evening , about a pile up of fixtures which could well be detrimental to our survival in the Championship, about losing much needed home fans and finally about the match fitness of our squad of players. Serious considerations all.
If there is one item at the top of RD's agenda tonight, it has to be this. And it has to be fixed at whatever the cost.
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We've been absolutely slaughtered on 5Live.0
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If it's true the club turned down the refs offer of a pitch inspection
Yesterday then someone at the club has to be accountable for this massive cock up?
I really am losing faith in the club I once loved they are really trying
They are their hardest to drive us away?
Totally mugged off
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stockportaddick said:
Ha ha! That's quite ironic! My son is a county season ticket holder and after the rain we had through the night I actually said to him Stockport would probably be called off and to come with me instead as Charlton are his number 2 team!EdgeleyAddick said:
You should be going to Edgeley Park!ShootersHillGuru said:
You should copy this to the club. Disgraceful.stockportaddick said:Not best pleased. After checking the os I made a last minute decision to go to the game. I don't get to many home games now because money is tight and I get little change out of £130 for a home game for me and my son. Left Stockport at 09:30 and parked up at 13:30 just in time to find out about the postponement. Got home to Stockport at half six. 9 hours wasted and the best part of £100 lighter in fuel and food costs. There is no excuse for not having an early morning inspection by a local ref and saving me and countless others from a crap day and wasted £££'s
@ ken from Bexley - that is greatly appreciated - thank you
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Ha ha! Sounds like we have opposite lives SA. Im a County fan in London. When I had kids, I wanted my boys to grow up with something similar to the County experience that I had with Bergara and Dave Jones. So far so good!!!! Will always be County first. But love CAFC. The CAFC away end reminds me of County. Went Orient today and the Carlisle away end was beyond pathetic.0 -
Ha! Mental. One of our own fans tweeting we should be docked points. That's disappointing. Like I said, completely understand the anger/frustration, but publicly would want us to put on a united front. Behind closed doors, on forums like this and as customers of the club we've got every right to say what we feel.ValleyGary said:
The problem with the Durham tweet is that it originally come from a Charlton fan!!!cabbles said:
Agree that the pitch now has to be a priority for RD alongside getting CP and the likes of Yann new contracts. Unfortunately for RD the likelihood of this being in the due diligence he carried out were slim to none, but buyer beware and all that. Long term, I don't think we can rectify this until the summer (god knows at what cost). Short term, I hope the club work with the FA and football league to let them know how bad it is to avoid any punishment. As for today, quite clearly a lot of poor decisions/communications that have pissed a lot of people off. I'm guessing the club have obviously known about it for a long time, what with everything that's gone on it's been completely overlooked. Call it incompetence or whatever you want, we've hoped for the best, turns out we've got the worst. I have to believe the club thought that the measures they took this week were adequate. Rewind the clock a month ago, going into administration was probably the biggest fear. Cash/TJ had decided to pull their money, any questions about the pitch and stumping up money to fix it would've just been dismissed. I'm not excusing anything, and feel bad for all fans who have lost out financially today. What I am saying is I've seen muppets like Adrian Durham of talksport re-tweeting that we should be docked points etc. I don't like the fact that idiots like him outside the club are ready to put the boot in without knowing all the facts surrounding how perilous our financial situation has been. I do think everything that has gone on in the run up to the takeover has adversely affected us in this situation. I hope that we can all put the anger and frustration behind us, like we do a shocking performance.Fanny Fanackapan said:
I'd like to believe that this form of advice /investigation was undertaken some time ago, and if not, certainly as soon as the Oxford game was postponed last Saturday.micks1950 said:
If they definitely know that the drains have collapsed (as has been stated) then presumably it’s been confirmed by using a cctv ‘drain cam’? In which case it would almost certainly have been done by a professional drain company who I would hope have also advised whether the broken pipes can be remotely relined (involving ‘blowing’ a new resin impregnated lining into the pipe which then sets hard).ValleyGary said:
That's one lucky guy.ShootersHillGuru said:I imagine the new Sporting Director is as we speak having someone strung up by the bollox.
The oxford game on Tuesday May as well be changed to their ground. It's the FA cup, they can do it. If a clubs too small they can change the fixture to an away tie. Same if your pitch is too shit.
If we go out, then it won't be a bad thing as we are gonna have a fixture pile up at this rate anyway.
In terms of the drainage, surely there's something we can do about it over the next few weeks with a bit of investment?? It's the 21st century ffs.
However, if the collapse is due to movement (sudsidence?) of the enlarged North Stand (as I think has been suggested) then it’s possible that this might even need some sort of underpinning to effect a proper solution?
I'd also like to think that a meeting was held from 1.30pm today to discuss the way forward with this predicament - one which would appease both the FL, Oxford, our opponents at home in the near future and the paying customers of our Club- US .
Whether there is a short term solution ( or rather "band aid ") to take us successfully to May or whether that scenario is out of the question (ie no guarantees it would continue to work in light of the winter months ahead) a decision has to be made NOW. Otherwise we will continue to lurch from one match to the next, worrying about what Michael Fish has to say each evening , about a pile up of fixtures which could well be detrimental to our survival in the Championship, about losing much needed home fans and finally about the match fitness of our squad of players. Serious considerations all.
If there is one item at the top of RD's agenda tonight, it has to be this. And it has to be fixed at whatever the cost.
Seriously, we don't do ourselves any favours sometimes. Calling for us to be docked points??? Absolutely mental.0 -
Clubs have been fined for dodgy pitches, no one has had points docked0
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What I don't understand is the doncaster game! That was awful!!! And we still played a half !! Can't be worse today than it was then ! But we still played half the game against doncaster : S . Confusing stuff!0
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probably been mentioned before, but hope we send coaches up to ferry em all down for re-arranged one, got to Waterloo and turned round - joke really0
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Not sure if anyone has answered this already, but why was Danny Wilson informed about the pitch inspection at 11.35am, yet Charlton's announcement wasn't made until 12.45?0
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Can't fault it. Hopefully that no one starts to blame the overworked under paid comms staff.Airman Brown said:This is the statement the club should have put out, in my opinion: www.votvonline.com
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Len, others have, Middlesbrough were the first Premier League clubs to get one0
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In a you tube interview thingy earlier on in this thread I'm pretty sure Danny Wilson said the first he heard was at 12.15 and him and the chief executive jumped in a car to get to the groundSurvivaloftheFittest said:Not sure if anyone has answered this already, but why was Danny Wilson informed about the pitch inspection at 11.35am, yet Charlton's announcement wasn't made until 12.45?
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I think this is a key point.SurvivaloftheFittest said:Not sure if anyone has answered this already, but why was Danny Wilson informed about the pitch inspection at 11.35am, yet Charlton's announcement wasn't made until 12.45?
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SELR_addicks said:
Instead of a dome, how about 100,000 sponges lying across the pitch, they'd soak up the water ; )
Yeah, but then they wouldn't be under the sea to soak up the sea-water, and sea levels would rise and we'd all be flooded.
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EdgeleyAddick said:
EA, deffo opposite lives! My old man moved us from Abbey Wood to Stockport back in '77 and I have always watched county on and off, used to love the Friday nights in edgeley park on the pop side:) I dreaded my son growing up as a manure or city fan but thank god he got the county bug and Charlton are a very close second fav team so I am well happy!!stockportaddick said:
Ha ha! That's quite ironic! My son is a county season ticket holder and after the rain we had through the night I actually said to him Stockport would probably be called off and to come with me instead as Charlton are his number 2 team!EdgeleyAddick said:
You should be going to Edgeley Park!ShootersHillGuru said:
You should copy this to the club. Disgraceful.stockportaddick said:Not best pleased. After checking the os I made a last minute decision to go to the game. I don't get to many home games now because money is tight and I get little change out of £130 for a home game for me and my son. Left Stockport at 09:30 and parked up at 13:30 just in time to find out about the postponement. Got home to Stockport at half six. 9 hours wasted and the best part of £100 lighter in fuel and food costs. There is no excuse for not having an early morning inspection by a local ref and saving me and countless others from a crap day and wasted £££'s
@ ken from Bexley - that is greatly appreciated - thank you1 -
I wonder if the insurance companies/FA/players union may have somehow got involved? The ref at the Doncaster game must have had a totally different set of instructions re player safety when he started and restarted that game.nth london addick said:redsek said:
The statement could also be read to imply that what happened today was the result of a random judgement made by the referee, although all the evidence suggests that the pitch was in no fit state to allow play. I struggle to believe that yesterday anyone could look at that pitch and not have even some doubt about it being good for today's game. The decision not to accept an early inspection yesterday was clearly ridiculous and the lack of communication contemptible. Barnsley have every right to approach the Football League about what has happened. I suspect we have not heard the last of this one and I fear the consequences of further postponements as the weather inevitably worsens.Kermy said:The club statement clearly blames the ground staff. If true, they should be punished severely
why ?
the ground staff have said quite clearly the pitch was in a comparable condition to the Brighton and Sheff weds game when the pitch was deemed playable and both games were played to conclusion
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End of the season dig it up lay new drainage and maybe roland will get undersoil heating put in .0
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He was a Millwall fan.cabbles said:
Ha! Mental. One of our own fans tweeting we should be docked points. That's disappointing. Like I said, completely understand the anger/frustration, but publicly would want us to put on a united front. Behind closed doors, on forums like this and as customers of the club we've got every right to say what we feel.ValleyGary said:
The problem with the Durham tweet is that it originally come from a Charlton fan!!!cabbles said:
Agree that the pitch now has to be a priority for RD alongside getting CP and the likes of Yann new contracts. Unfortunately for RD the likelihood of this being in the due diligence he carried out were slim to none, but buyer beware and all that. Long term, I don't think we can rectify this until the summer (god knows at what cost). Short term, I hope the club work with the FA and football league to let them know how bad it is to avoid any punishment. As for today, quite clearly a lot of poor decisions/communications that have pissed a lot of people off. I'm guessing the club have obviously known about it for a long time, what with everything that's gone on it's been completely overlooked. Call it incompetence or whatever you want, we've hoped for the best, turns out we've got the worst. I have to believe the club thought that the measures they took this week were adequate. Rewind the clock a month ago, going into administration was probably the biggest fear. Cash/TJ had decided to pull their money, any questions about the pitch and stumping up money to fix it would've just been dismissed. I'm not excusing anything, and feel bad for all fans who have lost out financially today. What I am saying is I've seen muppets like Adrian Durham of talksport re-tweeting that we should be docked points etc. I don't like the fact that idiots like him outside the club are ready to put the boot in without knowing all the facts surrounding how perilous our financial situation has been. I do think everything that has gone on in the run up to the takeover has adversely affected us in this situation. I hope that we can all put the anger and frustration behind us, like we do a shocking performance.Fanny Fanackapan said:
I'd like to believe that this form of advice /investigation was undertaken some time ago, and if not, certainly as soon as the Oxford game was postponed last Saturday.micks1950 said:
If they definitely know that the drains have collapsed (as has been stated) then presumably it’s been confirmed by using a cctv ‘drain cam’? In which case it would almost certainly have been done by a professional drain company who I would hope have also advised whether the broken pipes can be remotely relined (involving ‘blowing’ a new resin impregnated lining into the pipe which then sets hard).ValleyGary said:
That's one lucky guy.ShootersHillGuru said:I imagine the new Sporting Director is as we speak having someone strung up by the bollox.
The oxford game on Tuesday May as well be changed to their ground. It's the FA cup, they can do it. If a clubs too small they can change the fixture to an away tie. Same if your pitch is too shit.
If we go out, then it won't be a bad thing as we are gonna have a fixture pile up at this rate anyway.
In terms of the drainage, surely there's something we can do about it over the next few weeks with a bit of investment?? It's the 21st century ffs.
However, if the collapse is due to movement (sudsidence?) of the enlarged North Stand (as I think has been suggested) then it’s possible that this might even need some sort of underpinning to effect a proper solution?
I'd also like to think that a meeting was held from 1.30pm today to discuss the way forward with this predicament - one which would appease both the FL, Oxford, our opponents at home in the near future and the paying customers of our Club- US .
Whether there is a short term solution ( or rather "band aid ") to take us successfully to May or whether that scenario is out of the question (ie no guarantees it would continue to work in light of the winter months ahead) a decision has to be made NOW. Otherwise we will continue to lurch from one match to the next, worrying about what Michael Fish has to say each evening , about a pile up of fixtures which could well be detrimental to our survival in the Championship, about losing much needed home fans and finally about the match fitness of our squad of players. Serious considerations all.
If there is one item at the top of RD's agenda tonight, it has to be this. And it has to be fixed at whatever the cost.
Seriously, we don't do ourselves any favours sometimes. Calling for us to be docked points??? Absolutely mental.0 - Sponsored links:
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SurvivaloftheFittest said:
on a you tube interview thingy earlier on in this thread I'm pretty sure Danny Wilson said the first he heard was at 12.15 and him and the chief executive jumped in a car to get to the ground
Not sure if anyone has answered this already, but why was Danny Wilson informed about the pitch inspection at 11.35am, yet Charlton's announcement wasn't made until 12.45?
I'm on an iPad so excuse me if the quote doesn't work, but that's not what it says on Barnsleys website:
http://mobile.barnsleyfc.co.uk/news/article/danny-disappointed-at-postponement-1287683.aspx?pd=635250455950000000
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Steve Bradshaw is The Chief Operations Officer. He is responsible for the stadium.
It is evident that the pitch has major problems due to collapsed drainage & capped/sealed drains (allegedly).
Therefore any water will not drain away properly.
Any COO worthy of his position, would surely, have personally inspected the pitch, together with the ground staff on a regular basis this week.
Following these inspections, then there should have been regular updates, to say that there was doubt over the Barnsley game proceeding.
There should have been a local referee called in yesterday, to inspect and to announce his view.
If the referee decided that a further inspection would be required on Saturday, then this should have been communicated & the inspection should have taken place at 9am this morning.
Unless, someone can explain why the above is factually incorrect or was not possible, then I believe Mr Bradshaw is at fault for this debacle.
If I'm wrong, I apologise, but this is the way I see it & it doesn't come as a great surprise.
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Donny was water. Today was mud.CAFCTILLIDIE said:What I don't understand is the doncaster game! That was awful!!! And we still played a half !! Can't be worse today than it was then ! But we still played half the game against doncaster : S . Confusing stuff!
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picture is from Donny mateAddickted said:
I'm told it was.ShootersHillGuru said:
Is that our pitch ?Addickted said:How on earth cn you expect a professional football match to be played on this - and that's after 10 days of cover and work on it.
Surely it was obvious yesterday that this game was never going to go ahead?
If that was taken earlier today then we are in deep deep doo doo.
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/the-match-ball-sits-on-the-tuf-of-the-waterlogged-pitch-news-photo/177586277#
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The other chap said he was a Charlton fan....Danny Addick said:
He was a Millwall fan.cabbles said:
Ha! Mental. One of our own fans tweeting we should be docked points. That's disappointing. Like I said, completely understand the anger/frustration, but publicly would want us to put on a united front. Behind closed doors, on forums like this and as customers of the club we've got every right to say what we feel.ValleyGary said:
The problem with the Durham tweet is that it originally come from a Charlton fan!!!cabbles said:
Agree that the pitch now has to be a priority for RD alongside getting CP and the likes of Yann new contracts. Unfortunately for RD the likelihood of this being in the due diligence he carried out were slim to none, but buyer beware and all that. Long term, I don't think we can rectify this until the summer (god knows at what cost). Short term, I hope the club work with the FA and football league to let them know how bad it is to avoid any punishment. As for today, quite clearly a lot of poor decisions/communications that have pissed a lot of people off. I'm guessing the club have obviously known about it for a long time, what with everything that's gone on it's been completely overlooked. Call it incompetence or whatever you want, we've hoped for the best, turns out we've got the worst. I have to believe the club thought that the measures they took this week were adequate. Rewind the clock a month ago, going into administration was probably the biggest fear. Cash/TJ had decided to pull their money, any questions about the pitch and stumping up money to fix it would've just been dismissed. I'm not excusing anything, and feel bad for all fans who have lost out financially today. What I am saying is I've seen muppets like Adrian Durham of talksport re-tweeting that we should be docked points etc. I don't like the fact that idiots like him outside the club are ready to put the boot in without knowing all the facts surrounding how perilous our financial situation has been. I do think everything that has gone on in the run up to the takeover has adversely affected us in this situation. I hope that we can all put the anger and frustration behind us, like we do a shocking performance.Fanny Fanackapan said:
I'd like to believe that this form of advice /investigation was undertaken some time ago, and if not, certainly as soon as the Oxford game was postponed last Saturday.micks1950 said:
If they definitely know that the drains have collapsed (as has been stated) then presumably it’s been confirmed by using a cctv ‘drain cam’? In which case it would almost certainly have been done by a professional drain company who I would hope have also advised whether the broken pipes can be remotely relined (involving ‘blowing’ a new resin impregnated lining into the pipe which then sets hard).ValleyGary said:
That's one lucky guy.ShootersHillGuru said:I imagine the new Sporting Director is as we speak having someone strung up by the bollox.
The oxford game on Tuesday May as well be changed to their ground. It's the FA cup, they can do it. If a clubs too small they can change the fixture to an away tie. Same if your pitch is too shit.
If we go out, then it won't be a bad thing as we are gonna have a fixture pile up at this rate anyway.
In terms of the drainage, surely there's something we can do about it over the next few weeks with a bit of investment?? It's the 21st century ffs.
However, if the collapse is due to movement (sudsidence?) of the enlarged North Stand (as I think has been suggested) then it’s possible that this might even need some sort of underpinning to effect a proper solution?
I'd also like to think that a meeting was held from 1.30pm today to discuss the way forward with this predicament - one which would appease both the FL, Oxford, our opponents at home in the near future and the paying customers of our Club- US .
Whether there is a short term solution ( or rather "band aid ") to take us successfully to May or whether that scenario is out of the question (ie no guarantees it would continue to work in light of the winter months ahead) a decision has to be made NOW. Otherwise we will continue to lurch from one match to the next, worrying about what Michael Fish has to say each evening , about a pile up of fixtures which could well be detrimental to our survival in the Championship, about losing much needed home fans and finally about the match fitness of our squad of players. Serious considerations all.
If there is one item at the top of RD's agenda tonight, it has to be this. And it has to be fixed at whatever the cost.
Seriously, we don't do ourselves any favours sometimes. Calling for us to be docked points??? Absolutely mental.
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You are most definitely right.Covered End said:Steve Bradshaw is The Chief Operations Officer. He is responsible for the stadium.
It is evident that the pitch has major problems due to collapsed drainage & capped/sealed drains (allegedly).
Therefore any water will not drain away properly.
Any COO worthy of his position, would surely, have personally inspected the pitch, together with the ground staff on a regular basis this week.
Following these inspections, then there should have been regular updates, to say that there was doubt over the Barnsley game proceeding.
There should have been a local referee called in yesterday, to inspect and to announce his view.
If the referee decided that a further inspection would be required on Saturday, then this should have been communicated & the inspection should have taken place at 9am this morning.
Unless, someone can explain why the above is factually incorrect or was not possible, then I believe Mr Bradshaw is at fault for this debacle.
If I'm wrong, I apologise, but this is the way I see it & it doesn't come as a great surprise.0 -
My bad, looking at his profile I can see he is a millwall fan. The way the tweet was worded I thought he was an addick.
There have been people on here and twitter suggesting docked points tho which I can't understand.0 -
Agreed. Can't see it happening however. I just don't like the way we've got all these fans from other clubs, the whole world and his wife ready to act as judge, jury executioner. People like Adrian Durham are very quick to put the boot in, without knowing all the facts.ValleyGary said:My bad, looking at his profile I can see he is a millwall fan. The way the tweet was worded I thought he was an addick.
There have been people on here and twitter suggesting docked points tho which I can't understand.0 -
There are Charlton fans and then there are Charlton "fans".....cabbles said:
The other chap said he was a Charlton fan....Danny Addick said:
He was a Millwall fan.cabbles said:
Ha! Mental. One of our own fans tweeting we should be docked points. That's disappointing. Like I said, completely understand the anger/frustration, but publicly would want us to put on a united front. Behind closed doors, on forums like this and as customers of the club we've got every right to say what we feel.ValleyGary said:
The problem with the Durham tweet is that it originally come from a Charlton fan!!!cabbles said:
Agree that the pitch now has to be a priority for RD alongside getting CP and the likes of Yann new contracts. Unfortunately for RD the likelihood of this being in the due diligence he carried out were slim to none, but buyer beware and all that. Long term, I don't think we can rectify this until the summer (god knows at what cost). Short term, I hope the club work with the FA and football league to let them know how bad it is to avoid any punishment. As for today, quite clearly a lot of poor decisions/communications that have pissed a lot of people off. I'm guessing the club have obviously known about it for a long time, what with everything that's gone on it's been completely overlooked. Call it incompetence or whatever you want, we've hoped for the best, turns out we've got the worst. I have to believe the club thought that the measures they took this week were adequate. Rewind the clock a month ago, going into administration was probably the biggest fear. Cash/TJ had decided to pull their money, any questions about the pitch and stumping up money to fix it would've just been dismissed. I'm not excusing anything, and feel bad for all fans who have lost out financially today. What I am saying is I've seen muppets like Adrian Durham of talksport re-tweeting that we should be docked points etc. I don't like the fact that idiots like him outside the club are ready to put the boot in without knowing all the facts surrounding how perilous our financial situation has been. I do think everything that has gone on in the run up to the takeover has adversely affected us in this situation. I hope that we can all put the anger and frustration behind us, like we do a shocking performance.Fanny Fanackapan said:
I'd like to believe that this form of advice /investigation was undertaken some time ago, and if not, certainly as soon as the Oxford game was postponed last Saturday.micks1950 said:
If they definitely know that the drains have collapsed (as has been stated) then presumably it’s been confirmed by using a cctv ‘drain cam’? In which case it would almost certainly have been done by a professional drain company who I would hope have also advised whether the broken pipes can be remotely relined (involving ‘blowing’ a new resin impregnated lining into the pipe which then sets hard).ValleyGary said:
That's one lucky guy.ShootersHillGuru said:I imagine the new Sporting Director is as we speak having someone strung up by the bollox.
The oxford game on Tuesday May as well be changed to their ground. It's the FA cup, they can do it. If a clubs too small they can change the fixture to an away tie. Same if your pitch is too shit.
If we go out, then it won't be a bad thing as we are gonna have a fixture pile up at this rate anyway.
In terms of the drainage, surely there's something we can do about it over the next few weeks with a bit of investment?? It's the 21st century ffs.
However, if the collapse is due to movement (sudsidence?) of the enlarged North Stand (as I think has been suggested) then it’s possible that this might even need some sort of underpinning to effect a proper solution?
I'd also like to think that a meeting was held from 1.30pm today to discuss the way forward with this predicament - one which would appease both the FL, Oxford, our opponents at home in the near future and the paying customers of our Club- US .
Whether there is a short term solution ( or rather "band aid ") to take us successfully to May or whether that scenario is out of the question (ie no guarantees it would continue to work in light of the winter months ahead) a decision has to be made NOW. Otherwise we will continue to lurch from one match to the next, worrying about what Michael Fish has to say each evening , about a pile up of fixtures which could well be detrimental to our survival in the Championship, about losing much needed home fans and finally about the match fitness of our squad of players. Serious considerations all.
If there is one item at the top of RD's agenda tonight, it has to be this. And it has to be fixed at whatever the cost.
Seriously, we don't do ourselves any favours sometimes. Calling for us to be docked points??? Absolutely mental.
From the Dark Side maybe ?
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You forgot two things!Covered End said:Steve Bradshaw is The Chief Operations Officer. He is responsible for the stadium.
It is evident that the pitch has major problems due to collapsed drainage & capped/sealed drains (allegedly).
Therefore any water will not drain away properly.
Any COO worthy of his position, would surely, have personally inspected the pitch, together with the ground staff on a regular basis this week.
Following these inspections, then there should have been regular updates, to say that there was doubt over the Barnsley game proceeding.
There should have been a local referee called in yesterday, to inspect and to announce his view.
If the referee decided that a further inspection would be required on Saturday, then this should have been communicated & the inspection should have taken place at 9am this morning.
Unless, someone can explain why the above is factually incorrect or was not possible, then I believe Mr Bradshaw is at fault for this debacle.
If I'm wrong, I apologise, but this is the way I see it & it doesn't come as a great surprise.
He manages the comms team who released the statement today
He would be responsible for the budgets in this area - both spending them and negotiating them in the first place
It has been stated that today's debacle was as a result of the failure to spend £28K over the summer. This in a club which spends £17M per annum on staff, players and operations. If true then this is rediculous considering costs today, risks to the future programme and the aspirations of this club to push on with this squad and climb the league.
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