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Zulu (the film 50th anniversary.)

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  • Alex Wright
    Alex Wright Posts: 8,214
    stonemuse said:

    Davo55 said:

    Saw it at the Roxy Blackheath Standard when it was first out. Loved it then. Love it now.

    That's where I first saw it too.
    And me!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,995
    stonemuse said:

    Davo55 said:

    Saw it at the Roxy Blackheath Standard when it was first out. Loved it then. Love it now.

    That's where I first saw it too.
    Ha. Me too. My mum took me, possibly my first film at age 5/6.

    I've always thought that a rather adult film to take a young child.
  • Alex Wright
    Alex Wright Posts: 8,214
    McBobbin said:

    just found out that Colour Serjeant Bourne lived on the same road in Beckenham that my dad was born on

    See the blue plaque on page 1 of the thread @McBobbin
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,783
    jdsd42 said:

    First saw ZULU in 64 at the cinema.. top of Blackwell lane .......best film ever ... also though ZULU DAWN was a good film ...

    The Granada. I went there quite often up to '63. It's now a block of flats.
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,164
    If I remember correctly, I went to see this rather than watch the 66 Workd Cup final, doh!
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454
    se9addick said:

    I'm ashamed to say I've never seen Zulu

    Is on Sky Select today at 10.15 & 19.30
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Thank goodness we have brave people who protect us from ourselves.

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/folkestone/news/calls-to-axe-racist-zulu-film-from-cinema-185221/
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Addickted said:

    Thank goodness we have brave people who protect us from ourselves.

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/folkestone/news/calls-to-axe-racist-zulu-film-from-cinema-185221/

    Yeah saw this myself... Can anyone explain the racist overtones from this film please?
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456

    Addickted said:

    Thank goodness we have brave people who protect us from ourselves.

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/folkestone/news/calls-to-axe-racist-zulu-film-from-cinema-185221/

    Yeah saw this myself... Can anyone explain the racist overtones from this film please?
    Takes the piss out of the Welsh
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,243

    Addickted said:

    Thank goodness we have brave people who protect us from ourselves.

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/folkestone/news/calls-to-axe-racist-zulu-film-from-cinema-185221/

    Yeah saw this myself... Can anyone explain the racist overtones from this film please?
    There isn't, it's another example of a few vocal idiots making a mockery of all the genuine progression made over the last 30 years in regards to racial equality.

    Part of me wanted to wade in pointing out Schindlers List has an undertone or two but it would be lost on these pant sniffers who see it as their purpose in life when they aren't pulling sickies or wetting the bed to call out a film set around an historic event as racist. Presumably because it features black actors, playing black characters getting shot as part of a famous battle scene.

    The other part of me ignored these morons and hoped they'd find someone else to annoy and insult the intelligence of
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  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Iet's let a Zulu have the word in this:

    https://thisisafrica.me/lifestyle/film-zulu-50-years-classic-racist/

    He was in it, and played his real life grandfather who was the Zulu chief. He reckons it was merely an account of history, so good enough for me.
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172
    The councillor nails it, albeit with a bit of political nous....

    Cllr Berry added: “It’s just a film with a poetic licence, I’ve seen it many times and I don’t see the colour of people’s skin, I see a war between two countries.

    “I’m a councillor, I can’t go around telling people what they can and can’t watch.

    “And this event is for charity. No I wouldn’t try telling them not to watch it at all.”


    Generally I find in these kinda instances the best response to those snivelling toads who feel they have the right to complain about everything is 'Fuck Off'
    I noticed that there was only 28 people who complained, so 28 'Fuck Offs' to you lot.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,352
    edited June 2018
    I would just like to apologise on behalf of I don't know who, for something I had nothing to do with, that might of offended anyone I do not know...
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    McBobbin said:

    Iet's let a Zulu have the word in this:

    https://thisisafrica.me/lifestyle/film-zulu-50-years-classic-racist/

    He was in it, and played his real life grandfather who was the Zulu chief. He reckons it was merely an account of history, so good enough for me.

    This answer right here is the one that should put any argument to bed...

    TIA: Many people have criticised the film for glorifying the British Empire, and for celebrating its military conquests in a racist way. Do you feel that it’s appropriate to be celebrating its 50th anniversary?

    MB: I’m a historian, and I take the film to be a record of history. I don’t think that you repeat the past by showing the history of a country and its people. And I don’t think that the film glorifies anything: later on, Zulu Dawn (the sequel) showed the victory of the Zulu people over the British. So I don’t see things that way.

    Yes Zulu Dawn didnt do well but thats because it was no where near as good as Zulu
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,783

    Addickted said:

    Thank goodness we have brave people who protect us from ourselves.

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/folkestone/news/calls-to-axe-racist-zulu-film-from-cinema-185221/

    Yeah saw this myself... Can anyone explain the racist overtones from this film please?
    There is one racist element which was very common for the time the film was made. The Zulu women's breasts are shown in a film which was given a U certificate. The attitude was that it was perfectly acceptable to show "natives'" breasts. A film showing a white woman's breasts would have been given a more restrictive certificate.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456

    Addickted said:

    Thank goodness we have brave people who protect us from ourselves.

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/folkestone/news/calls-to-axe-racist-zulu-film-from-cinema-185221/

    Yeah saw this myself... Can anyone explain the racist overtones from this film please?
    There is one racist element which was very common for the time the film was made. The Zulu women's breasts are shown in a film which was given a U certificate. The attitude was that it was perfectly acceptable to show "natives'" breasts. A film showing a white woman's breasts would have been given a more restrictive certificate.
    What did you expect them to do? Measure up for a Wonderbra prior to filming?

    "Hello Boyos"
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,783
    Addickted said:

    Addickted said:

    Thank goodness we have brave people who protect us from ourselves.

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/folkestone/news/calls-to-axe-racist-zulu-film-from-cinema-185221/

    Yeah saw this myself... Can anyone explain the racist overtones from this film please?
    There is one racist element which was very common for the time the film was made. The Zulu women's breasts are shown in a film which was given a U certificate. The attitude was that it was perfectly acceptable to show "natives'" breasts. A film showing a white woman's breasts would have been given a more restrictive certificate.
    What did you expect them to do? Measure up for a Wonderbra prior to filming?

    "Hello Boyos"
    It would not have been impossible to provide a costume that covered them without going to the expense of inventing a time machine so as to be able go forward in time and purchase an item that hadn't yet been made.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    edited June 2018

    McBobbin said:

    Iet's let a Zulu have the word in this:

    https://thisisafrica.me/lifestyle/film-zulu-50-years-classic-racist/

    He was in it, and played his real life grandfather who was the Zulu chief. He reckons it was merely an account of history, so good enough for me.

    This answer right here is the one that should put any argument to bed...

    TIA: Many people have criticised the film for glorifying the British Empire, and for celebrating its military conquests in a racist way. Do you feel that it’s appropriate to be celebrating its 50th anniversary?

    MB: I’m a historian, and I take the film to be a record of history. I don’t think that you repeat the past by showing the history of a country and its people. And I don’t think that the film glorifies anything: later on, Zulu Dawn (the sequel) showed the victory of the Zulu people over the British. So I don’t see things that way.

    Yes Zulu Dawn didnt do well but thats because it was no where near as good as Zulu
    Any claim that it was glorifying the British Empire is pretty much refuted in one of the last passages:



    Lieutenant John Chard: Well, you've fought your first action.

    Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead: Does everyone feel like this afterwards?

    Lieutenant John Chard: How do you feel?

    Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead: Sick.

    Lieutenant John Chard: Well, you have to feel alive to feel sick.

    Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead: You asked me, I told you.

    [pause]

    Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead: There's something else. I feel ashamed. Was that how it was for you? The first time?

    Lieutenant John Chard: The first time? You think I could stand this butcher's yard more than once?

    Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead: I didn't know.

    Lieutenant John Chard: I came up here to build a bridge.


    One of the greatest films ever made.
  • I'm going to order a copy on Amazon now just to spite the imbeciles who want to ban the film.
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039
    Without knowing the specifics of their complaint it's a non story really.

    When I saw the film as a schoolboy I thought it brilliant. On adult rewatching it's not that good (to me).
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  • mistrollingin
    mistrollingin Posts: 3,868

    I'm going to order a copy on Amazon now just to spite the imbeciles who want to ban the film.

    Be sure to order the 2 disc Special Edition which contains loads of goodies including, The Music of Zulu, The Making of Zulu: Role of Honour and loads more great stuff.
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172
    I visits the museum in Brecon, Wales many years ago, very interesting place.

    http://royalwelsh.org.uk/regimental-museum-of-the-royal-welsh.shtml
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,599
    Greenie said:

    I visits the museum in Brecon, Wales many years ago, very interesting place.

    http://royalwelsh.org.uk/regimental-museum-of-the-royal-welsh.shtml

    I visits there too bro.
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172

    Greenie said:

    I visits the museum in Brecon, Wales many years ago, very interesting place.

    http://royalwelsh.org.uk/regimental-museum-of-the-royal-welsh.shtml

    I visits there too bro.
    Innit tho.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Didnt realise yet Glynn Edwards (Corporal Allen) died last month
  • cafckev
    cafckev Posts: 2,914
    Greenie said:

    I visits the museum in Brecon, Wales many years ago, very interesting place.

    http://royalwelsh.org.uk/regimental-museum-of-the-royal-welsh.shtml

    Go to the RE Museum in Gillingham. Due to Chard being in the RE it has some nice related bits including his actual pistol used during the fighting. They often do Zulu related events including having relatives of those who took part (including the Zulu warriors).
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,599
    cafckev said:

    Greenie said:

    I visits the museum in Brecon, Wales many years ago, very interesting place.

    http://royalwelsh.org.uk/regimental-museum-of-the-royal-welsh.shtml

    Go to the RE Museum in Gillingham. Due to Chard being in the RE it has some nice related bits including his actual pistol used during the fighting. They often do Zulu related events including having relatives of those who took part (including the Zulu warriors).
    Do the women have their tits out?
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454

    Didnt realise yet Glynn Edwards (Corporal Allen) died last month

    http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/82245/glynn-edwards-rip
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,646

    cafckev said:

    Greenie said:

    I visits the museum in Brecon, Wales many years ago, very interesting place.

    http://royalwelsh.org.uk/regimental-museum-of-the-royal-welsh.shtml

    Go to the RE Museum in Gillingham. Due to Chard being in the RE it has some nice related bits including his actual pistol used during the fighting. They often do Zulu related events including having relatives of those who took part (including the Zulu warriors).
    Do the women have their tits out?
    Only those working in the gift shop and cafeteria.
  • cafckev
    cafckev Posts: 2,914

    cafckev said:

    Greenie said:

    I visits the museum in Brecon, Wales many years ago, very interesting place.

    http://royalwelsh.org.uk/regimental-museum-of-the-royal-welsh.shtml

    Go to the RE Museum in Gillingham. Due to Chard being in the RE it has some nice related bits including his actual pistol used during the fighting. They often do Zulu related events including having relatives of those who took part (including the Zulu warriors).
    Do the women have their tits out?
    Only those working in the gift shop and cafeteria.
    I am sure Doris the 86yr old volunteer would be a sight to see.