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First impressions of Jose Riga

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  • micks1950
    micks1950 Posts: 943
    thenewbie said:

    seth plum said:

    Charlton Athletic need to win a lot more games and escape relegation. That is the bottom line in this new landscape.
    The bigger picture is the bigger picture, but some kind of respite from all that is to narrow down the focus and see Charlton Athletic win matches. Draws and defeats are not good enough.

    Draws and defeats were exactly what we were getting even before the change in management. Six wins in a whole season is not simply a bad run of form.
    The comparative stats of Riga vs CP....

    Riga success-ratio as manager:
    37.34 % Wins
    27.22 % Draw
    35.44 % Losses

    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/jose-riga/aufeinenblick/trainer_1866.html

    Powell success-ratio as manager:
    41.61 % Wins
    25.47 % Draw
    32.92 % Losses

    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/chris-powell/aufeinenblick/trainer_15701.html


  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,610
    Another case of people jumping to conclusions way too early? Even less Liege players starting than Wednesday.
  • smiffyboy
    smiffyboy Posts: 4,314
    Man seems to be working a bit of magic with the same players looking a much better side the last two games
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Two points from six remains unconvincing for me.
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    Didn't see Thuram in the team today. I thought Roland was supposed to pick the team?
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,668
    edited March 2014
    Than what, @smiffyboy? V Sheff U, but not compared with QPR & Sheff Wed. Nice selective memory...

    Think Powell would have got us at least two points from the last two games.

    The problem is not the management - it is lack of depth in the squad...
  • Two points from six remains unconvincing for me.
    seth plum said:

    Two points from six remains unconvincing for me.

    Give the bloke a chance
    As we know he didnt pick team or take the training before the the udders game
    So realy today was his 1st
    And a point away at stadium toolbox is not bad in my book?

  • Than what, @smiffyboy? V Sheff U, but not compared with QPR & Sheff Wed. Nice selective memory...

    Think Powell would have got us at least two points from the last two games.

    The problem is not the management - it is lack of depth in the squad...

    Correct
    Especially in the goal scoring area!

  • JonnyK
    JonnyK Posts: 830
    edited March 2014

    Two points from six remains unconvincing for me.

    seth plum said:

    Two points from six remains unconvincing for me.

    Give the bloke a chance
    As we know he didnt pick team or take the training before the the udders game
    So realy today was his 1st
    And a point away at stadium toolbox is not bad in my book?



    Sorry but from the opening two games it's a no brainer. He's banished the dull old hoofball of the previous regime and in just 5 days has laid out a new style of play that's far more appealing to the eye.

    Now remember he's only keeping the seat warm for the new gaffer who will come in the summer but he's laid down a new ethos that is the blueprint of the Academy he will head up come the summer.

    So delighted that RD is spending big on the re-development on Sparrows which will make our Academy one of the best in the Uk and this plus the new pitch will allow us to go from strength to strength.

    Forget all this feeder club garbage we will be the real deal :-)))
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    Two points from six remains unconvincing for me.
    seth plum said:

    Two points from six remains unconvincing for me.

    Give the bloke a chance
    As we know he didnt pick team or take the training before the the udders game
    So realy today was his 1st
    And a point away at stadium toolbox is not bad in my book?



    The term 'unconvincing' does not indicate not giving Riga a chance does it?


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  • JonnyK
    JonnyK Posts: 830
    Spot on Smithster!
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 3,948
    So to change the topic very slightly, am I right in thinking that we have no idea how long his contact is and that there's a chance/rumour that he's only here til summer to keep us up?
  • So to change the topic very slightly, am I right in thinking that we have no idea how long his contact is and that there's a chance/rumour that he's only here til summer to keep us up?

    Entirely correct. Seems like a stop-in man to me and from what I've been hearing around, seem to back it up. On our OS he is 'permanent head coach', but hasn't even stuck pen to paper
  • crookester
    crookester Posts: 1,360
    Seth, I think you're being unfair to the new guy but some of the stuff being said about Riga's impact on the team's way of playing are frankly ludicrous. How many training sessions will he have taken? How well does he know the players? If anything, we're getting a glimpse of what it would be like if Dyer was in charge.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    edited March 2014
    Charlton Athletic are in the situation at this time of the season, in this relegation battle, and need to be less concerned as to how well or how badly they are playing, and more concerned with getting points
    What Charlton Athletic needs are points. It does not matter if points come from smash and grabs, parking buses, long ball, short ball, tippy tappy, or playing like Brazil 1970. Jose Riga has been appointed by Roland D to get points and keep us up according to the club statement. If Jose Riga gets the points to keep Charlton Athletic up he will have done well given the circumstances of his arrival. If Charlton Athletic get relegated, especially given the games in hand, then both Roland and Jose will have failed.
  • Gillis
    Gillis Posts: 998
    smiffyboy said:

    Than what, @smiffyboy? V Sheff U, but not compared with QPR & Sheff Wed. Nice selective memory...

    Think Powell would have got us at least two points from the last two games.

    The problem is not the management - it is lack of depth in the squad...

    You've managed to name two games we played well in what about the rest that we've been shit in, as far as I can see he's had two games in charge and we've played better in those two, sorry forgot not allowed to criticise CP
    Not wishing to speak for Weegie, but I think the point is that they were recent games that could indicate that things were turning around anyway.

    For me, it's too soon to judge. At this stage, Riga will have little knowledge of the squad, and won't have taken many training sessions. Too early to lay much credit or blame at his door, in my opinion. We'll see what impact he has over the coming weeks. Hopefully, it'll be positive.
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 3,948

    So to change the topic very slightly, am I right in thinking that we have no idea how long his contact is and that there's a chance/rumour that he's only here til summer to keep us up?

    Entirely correct. Seems like a stop-in man to me and from what I've been hearing around, seem to back it up. On our OS he is 'permanent head coach', but hasn't even stuck pen to paper
    Thanks for the reply. So to read between the lines, I'd guess either he's being given time to prove himself and wants the job OR doesn't fancy it and is just here to trouble shoot.
  • smiffyboy
    smiffyboy Posts: 4,314
    Sorry credit to CP for managing to turn things round and get us on the up only to have the glory cut short
  • seriously_red
    seriously_red Posts: 5,741
    Two games two points. No goals conceded but none scored. Thuram and Nego on the bench but not on the pitch for a single minute so does that kill the myth that Riga is a puppet who must play all players signed in January?
    The midfield looks accomplished and no one is having a bad game. And Cousins looked good coming off the bench. This is absolutely essential in the weeks to come as we must build consistency.
    But up front as everyone knows we don't have the firepower - the loan window is open and I believe that RD is almost obliged to get someone good in so as to show he means business.
    I think Riga is doing Ok and the next two home games will tell us about where we are going.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    Seth, I think you're being unfair to the new guy but some of the stuff being said about Riga's impact on the team's way of playing are frankly ludicrous. How many training sessions will he have taken? How well does he know the players? If anything, we're getting a glimpse of what it would be like if Dyer was in charge.

    Am I being unfair to simply say I am unconvinced? What am I supposed to say? Two points from six in two vital games have indicated we have turned a corner?
    Roland appointed Jose Riga, unless results don't matter much to Roland then surely Roland will be thinking 'Jose and Karel, you had better improve things'.
    I understand that Jose and Reza were at SL together (could be wrong about that) so how come Reza is not scoring goals for Charlton Athletic? Is this not an area that Jose Riga must improve?
    Maybe Jose Riga would like to bring in a striker..or two.


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  • Bubble
    Bubble Posts: 1,543
    seth plum said:

    Seth, I think you're being unfair to the new guy but some of the stuff being said about Riga's impact on the team's way of playing are frankly ludicrous. How many training sessions will he have taken? How well does he know the players? If anything, we're getting a glimpse of what it would be like if Dyer was in charge.

    Am I being unfair to simply say I am unconvinced? What am I supposed to say? Two points from six in two vital games have indicated we have turned a corner?
    Roland appointed Jose Riga, unless results don't matter much to Roland then surely Roland will be thinking 'Jose and Karel, you had better improve things'.
    I understand that Jose and Reza were at SL together (could be wrong about that) so how come Reza is not scoring goals for Charlton Athletic? Is this not an area that Jose Riga must improve?
    Maybe Jose Riga would like to bring in a striker..or two.

    I presume then that you've been unconvinced all season?
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I have been convinced all season we need a striker or two in the squad.
  • Think Jose will work on reza
    Think he is a good prospect but needs to man up a bit for the English game
    Only time will tell
    We wernt scoring goals before Jose came here so it's not going to happen overnight
    Any way as I didn't go today and gave my tickets away as couldn't face going for several
    Reasons ,I do not feel I can judge the man called Jose so I will read ur comments with
    Interest and make my own mind up over the next few games
    Hopefully he comes good I just thought today's point was usefull
    And encouraging thats all
    What did some people expect?
    6 points out of 6?
    8 goals for and 0 against
    He's not an overnight miracle worker,we were bottom for gods sake with the lowest goal scoring record in the football league!
  • seth plum said:

    I have been convinced all season we need a striker or two in the squad.

    Wow uve noticed the strikers we have are pony!

  • CrayAddick
    CrayAddick Posts: 3,915
    His post match interview makes as much sense as that bloke who left this forum in the week.
  • Tutt-Tutt
    Tutt-Tutt Posts: 3,295
    Do we know for sure who picked the team today? Be surprised if it was Riga. He has had no more than two training sessions to set up against team he admitted he knew nothing about in Wednesday nights press conference. If he did, then he steered clear of Thuram and would be the second manager in recent weeks to prefer Hamer, despite the owners directives. Would be interesting to know.
  • Nug
    Nug Posts: 4,633

    In fact probably the mods will delete this but seth you are amfecking idiot.

    I bet he could write it without making a mistake though!

  • scabbyhorse
    scabbyhorse Posts: 2,563
    Nug said:

    In fact probably the mods will delete this but seth you are amfecking idiot.

    I bet he could write it without making a mistake though!

    Now now boyfriend
  • scabbyhorse
    scabbyhorse Posts: 2,563
    Thats my boy, I now call him jose
  • Nug
    Nug Posts: 4,633

    Nug said:

    In fact probably the mods will delete this but seth you are amfecking idiot.

    I bet he could write it without making a mistake though!

    Now now boyfriend
    No chance. No man could come between me and my Chrissy Powell