Definitely do it, a no brainer.... and actually quite interesting, refreshed a few things I had forgotten and also updated me as to a few things I didn't know, no points and less than the fine. By the way for anyone who uses Dartford Cossing regularly the approach to the bridge average speed cameras have been active for the past 3 months, - getting us ready for removal of toll booths fairly soon, when it goes to number plate recognition- and like me most of the peeps on my course had been caught there, 58 in a 50 and I was keeping with the flow of the traffic!!
In the past one of the big advantages of the course was that insurance companies didn't get the opportunity to hike up your premium because of a speeding conviction. But I understand some have now started to treat attendance at a course in the same way as a 3 point penalty. See this article: bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20328860 Might be worth discussing - on a hypothetical basis of course - with your insurance company to find out what their attitude is and line up a move to a different company at renewal time.
Oh, and please don't mention this at the course, they don't like it: "Exceeding the speed limit was reported as a factor in 5 per cent of accidents". That quote is from the DoT's own report for 2011 and it also says "Failure to look properly was again the most frequently reported contributory factor and was reported in 42 per cent of all accidents".
But, of course, having a "look where you are going" course rather than a speed awareness course would rather blow the case for the cash generative speed cameras out of the water wouldn't it?
Definitely do it, a no brainer.... and actually quite interesting, refreshed a few things I had forgotten and also updated me as to a few things I didn't know, no points and less than the fine. By the way for anyone who uses Dartford Cossing regularly the approach to the bridge average speed cameras have been active for the past 3 months, - getting us ready for removal of toll booths fairly soon, when it goes to number plate recognition- and like me most of the peeps on my course had been caught there, 58 in a 50 and I was keeping with the flow of the traffic!!
Thanks for that tip about the crossing. You don't happen to know how the cameras deal with the change from 50 mph down to 40 mph as you approach the barriers do you?
I went to one up here last year, the room was full to the brim about 40 or so people, most people was over 30 years old too, the two blokes presenting it was kind of okay and initially there was an open discussion about speeding, some were saying it was unfair that they had been done by doing something like 34 in a 30 whilst others just sat in silence just looking at the table.
I asked them if the Government/safety groups/Police were so concerned about speeding why don't they install average speed cameras on every road? but he didn't really give me a straight answer and the whole room went quiet, I didn't intentionally want to make the bloke uncomfortable because he did seem a genuine guy but it just goes to show it's a money making scheme.
There are arguments that this course could improve your driving for a day or so, but after a week you're gonna be doing 35/36 in a 30 again. We have to live with it though otherwise it's 3 points, or let a mate take them for you (which is illegal and shouldn't be done )
Sadiejane. I'm I right in thinking that on another thread you stated that you were a full time recipient of benefits, or have I confused you with someone else?
Full time recipient of benefits?? Strange way of putting it I receive some benefits most people with kids get some benefits. I am a full time carer, I have 2 children with disabilities. Does that change anything?
Sadiejane. I'm I right in thinking that on another thread you stated that you were a full time recipient of benefits, or have I confused you with someone else?
Full time recipient of benefits?? Strange way of putting it I receive some benefits most people with kids get some benefits. I am a full time carer, I have 2 children with disabilities. Does that change anything?
'Full time recipient of benefits' was the politest phrase I could think of.
To me it does change everything and I don't understand why you even asked the original question. By your very nature you would be cash poor, but time rich.
Being given an option to save what would be a significant amount of money and having to attend a one day course without risking loss of income or sacrificing a precious days holiday is simply no brainer to a person in your situation and I'm genuinely baffled as to why you even asked the original question.
Time rich? Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea how much time looking after 4 children takes up let alone the fact that one has severe special needs and one has pretty serious mental health issues, I wish I had a 9-5 office job that I could clock on and off from, I wish I got to go to bed at 10pm and get up at 6 or to even go to bed at all, I wish I could send my children to school all day and not be called into one of them for something or have to do a multitude of other things I don't possibly have any time for otherwise. Time rich eh? That is one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard on here. Oh and by the way it was my husband's ticket not mine! Not that it should matter.
Sadiejane. I'm I right in thinking that on another thread you stated that you were a full time recipient of benefits, or have I confused you with someone else?
Full time recipient of benefits?? Strange way of putting it I receive some benefits most people with kids get some benefits. I am a full time carer, I have 2 children with disabilities. Does that change anything?
'Full time recipient of benefits' was the politest phrase I could think of.
To me it does change everything and I don't understand why you even asked the original question. By your very nature you would be cash poor, but time rich.
Being given an option to save what would be a significant amount of money and having to attend a one day course without risking loss of income or sacrificing a precious days holiday is simply no brainer to a person in your situation and I'm genuinely baffled as to why you even asked the original question.
Sadiejane. I'm I right in thinking that on another thread you stated that you were a full time recipient of benefits, or have I confused you with someone else?
Full time recipient of benefits?? Strange way of putting it I receive some benefits most people with kids get some benefits. I am a full time carer, I have 2 children with disabilities. Does that change anything?
'Full time recipient of benefits' was the politest phrase I could think of.
To me it does change everything and I don't understand why you even asked the original question. By your very nature you would be cash poor, but time rich.
Being given an option to save what would be a significant amount of money and having to attend a one day course without risking loss of income or sacrificing a precious days holiday is simply no brainer to a person in your situation and I'm genuinely baffled as to why you even asked the original question.
Why does it matter so much?
I find it rather odd that you should analyse it so much, what's your problem pal?
Smudge is clearly on a pathetic wind-up. This thread is only two pages long and Sadie already explained that it was a question in relation to her husband. Secondly, for Smudge to have even raised the point he/she would be as aware as any Lifer who regularly reads this site, of Sadies personal circumstances so this was an extremely petty, offensive and utterly pointless 'question'. If Smudge wants to pretend this was a genuine question, perhaps in future he/she would do us all the common courtesy of reading the thread before commenting.
Sadiejane. I'm I right in thinking that on another thread you stated that you were a full time recipient of benefits, or have I confused you with someone else?
Full time recipient of benefits?? Strange way of putting it I receive some benefits most people with kids get some benefits. I am a full time carer, I have 2 children with disabilities. Does that change anything?
'Full time recipient of benefits' was the politest phrase I could think of.
To me it does change everything and I don't understand why you even asked the original question. By your very nature you would be cash poor, but time rich.
Being given an option to save what would be a significant amount of money and having to attend a one day course without risking loss of income or sacrificing a precious days holiday is simply no brainer to a person in your situation and I'm genuinely baffled as to why you even asked the original question.
You are bang out of order pal. This is the shittiest post I've seen on here. Nasty git.
Sadiejane. I'm I right in thinking that on another thread you stated that you were a full time recipient of benefits, or have I confused you with someone else?
Full time recipient of benefits?? Strange way of putting it I receive some benefits most people with kids get some benefits. I am a full time carer, I have 2 children with disabilities. Does that change anything?
'Full time recipient of benefits' was the politest phrase I could think of.
To me it does change everything and I don't understand why you even asked the original question. By your very nature you would be cash poor, but time rich.
Being given an option to save what would be a significant amount of money and having to attend a one day course without risking loss of income or sacrificing a precious days holiday is simply no brainer to a person in your situation and I'm genuinely baffled as to why you even asked the original question.
You are bang out of order pal. This is the shittiest post I've seen on here. Nasty git.
Sadly it's all to common in society these days, programs like Benefits street poisoning peoples minds and the Tory government targeting people that actually need benefits has just created a bad image for whoever has to claim them, don't want to hijack this thread into another subject but I also find it very poor from a so called fellow fan to somewhat make an attack on another in that way, very poor form.
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Anyway, why should it push your premiums up. Like me she has a clean license.
And I bet we pay less for our insurance than you as well.
By the way for anyone who uses Dartford Cossing regularly the approach to the bridge average speed cameras have been active for the past 3 months, - getting us ready for removal of toll booths fairly soon, when it goes to number plate recognition- and like me most of the peeps on my course had been caught there, 58 in a 50 and I was keeping with the flow of the traffic!!
In the past one of the big advantages of the course was that insurance companies didn't get the opportunity to hike up your premium because of a speeding conviction. But I understand some have now started to treat attendance at a course in the same way as a 3 point penalty.
See this article: bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20328860
Might be worth discussing - on a hypothetical basis of course - with your insurance company to find out what their attitude is and line up a move to a different company at renewal time.
Oh, and please don't mention this at the course, they don't like it: "Exceeding the speed limit was reported as a factor in 5 per cent of accidents". That quote is from the DoT's own report for 2011 and it also says "Failure to look properly was again the most frequently reported contributory factor and was reported in 42 per cent of all accidents".
But, of course, having a "look where you are going" course rather than a speed awareness course would rather blow the case for the cash generative speed cameras out of the water wouldn't it?
I asked them if the Government/safety groups/Police were so concerned about speeding why don't they install average speed cameras on every road? but he didn't really give me a straight answer and the whole room went quiet, I didn't intentionally want to make the bloke uncomfortable because he did seem a genuine guy but it just goes to show it's a money making scheme.
There are arguments that this course could improve your driving for a day or so, but after a week you're gonna be doing 35/36 in a 30 again. We have to live with it though otherwise it's 3 points, or let a mate take them for you (which is illegal and shouldn't be done
I find it rather odd that you should analyse it so much, what's your problem pal?
Ignore him girl!