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Remember the 56 * Edit and Ian Hambridge*

Henry Irving
Henry Irving Posts: 85,251
edited May 2014 in Other Football and Sports
29 years ago 56 people died as a result of a fire at Bradford City's Valley Parade.

Some people may find the video distressing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXRp3qzEPiI
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  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,872
    I've seen it, it's horrific. The sole reason why stewards now placed in football stadiums.

    RIP.
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    Minute's silence at Anfield today ?
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,853
    Never forgotten.

    Rest in peace.
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 4,989
    That looks to be a typo, it's 29 years.

    It was before my time but the video is possibly the worst thing I've ever seen, a horrific and senseless loss of life. It could have happened anywhere. I guess at least thanks to post-Bradford improvements such accidents should never happen again.
  • RugbyAddick
    RugbyAddick Posts: 2,082
    PL54 said:

    Minute's silence at Anfield today ?

    Hopefully
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,487
    Part of the training into fire development was studying that, horrific to think they were all locked in with no escape. Terrible also to think their deaths are so over looked.

    RIP
  • stilladdicted
    stilladdicted Posts: 4,307
    Please don't use people's deaths to score points. RIP
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,579
    Won't watch the video again, I have tremendous respect for the Liverpool '96 and campaign that supports them , but I do believe that Bradford, Ibrox and even Heysel should not be forgotten and now the appropriate processes are in place for the '96, there should be an annual British day of football remembrance for all fans .. surely we can all put aside our partisanship for that.

    As an anecdote, I went to see us play Bradford at the rugby ground whilst the ground was rebuilt and stood next to two old northern codgers and had a great chat with them, believe we won 2-1 with Flash Flannagan scoring the winner.
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,854
    edited May 2014
    I'm 23, never knew anything about this. I wish it was commemorated more to be honest, rather than just the deaths of the fans whose fellow fans shout the loudest (and most often)

    There is a partisanship and a kinship to football fans, it's knowing when to express each that makes fans decent.

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  • The_Organiser
    The_Organiser Posts: 3,999
    edited May 2014
    Re Huskaris post:

    I know Hillsborough (rightly or wrongly) gets a lot more media attention, esp in recent years but I'm still completley shocked to read that. Not sure its a generation thing cosmI'm 29 but have always been very aware of the Bradfird fire.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,251
    Editted, it was a typo. 29 years, thanks RP.

    The thread was meant to be about remembering the 56 not about cheap point scoring.

    Shame it so soon got dragged down to that level.

    But pleased if some younger fans become aware.

    54 Bradford and 2 Lincoln fans died. RIP
  • bingaddick
    bingaddick Posts: 8,184
    I watched the you tube video of the unedited BBC commentary. The fire spread so quickly. Absolutely awful. What a terrible period that was, with Bradford and Heysel and Hillsborough. RIP the 56.
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,854

    Re Huskaris post:

    I know Hillsborough (rightly or wrongly) gets a lot more media attention, esp in recent years but I'm still completley shocked to read that. Not sure its a generation thing cosmI'm 29 but have always been very aware of the Bradfird fire.

    I know! I had heard of it on here occasionally, but mostly from in the same breath as people complaining that Hillsborough gets all the attention in regards to fan fatalities.

    I would consider myself quite a big football fan, and I had little or no knowledge of this... Terrible.
  • SheffieldRed
    SheffieldRed Posts: 3,772

    RIP.

    Hopefully the families of the deceased and survivors of the disaster can gain some comfort in the fact that many people have had their lifes saved / improved by the improvements made to stadium design, stadium safety and burns treatment following the disaster.
  • WasCharleyOne
    WasCharleyOne Posts: 517
    Absolutely awful day. RIP
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    Huskaris said:

    Re Huskaris post:

    I know Hillsborough (rightly or wrongly) gets a lot more media attention, esp in recent years but I'm still completley shocked to read that. Not sure its a generation thing cosmI'm 29 but have always been very aware of the Bradfird fire.

    I know! I had heard of it on here occasionally, but mostly from in the same breath as people complaining that Hillsborough gets all the attention in regards to fan fatalities.

    I would consider myself quite a big football fan, and I had little or no knowledge of this... Terrible.
    I'm not surprised you hadn't heard of it to be honest Huskaris, I'm at a similar age to you and in completely the same situation.

    I'd heard it mentioned once or twice on here in discussions about other horrific incidents, and took the time to google it and read up on it. But never once do I remember being told about it or "educated" about it like the other incidents; incidents you just instinctively know about. Without this forum I would never have known about it.

    It's a dreadful shame, no life is valued more than another - and each of those 56 also deserves some time taken for remembrance. No family should be lose someone who simply went to support their football team, similarly, no one should go to support their football team and never come back. RIP - and may we never see the like of these tragedies again.
  • northstandsteve
    northstandsteve Posts: 14,331
    Just watched it for the first time since,watching it when it happened, truly horrific, God bless them all.
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,438
    I remember this like it was yesterday. Absolutely brutal - one of the most horrifying things I've ever seen on tv. RIP
  • sadiejane1981
    sadiejane1981 Posts: 9,012
    I'm too young to remember but agree no tragedy should be used to score points, each tragic death is significant, this fire was horrific, RIP to these poor 56 forever in the hearts of football fans everywhere.

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  • red_murph
    red_murph Posts: 2,460
    Just horrendous. RIP
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,173
    heard about this on the coach back from Maine Road , where City had just got promoted to the top flight ,after tonking us 5-1 in front of more fans than saw them claim the title today.
    Listening on the radio it was hard to understand the nightmare of the incident that had happened but I don't think the amount of deaths were conveyed in the initial reporting that I heard , sad sad day
    RIP the 56
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,876
    Not watched the clip but seem to recall a man totally immersed with flames seemingly just walking along.

    RIP all.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,042
    I remember it well, it was absolutely shocking how quickly that fire swept through the stand. RIP to all.

    I'm not getting anything out of that link though.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,575
    Remember watching the video when I trained as a Fire Marshal at my previous job.

    RIP to those who lost their lives... Going to watch a game of Football is every fan should return from afterwards
  • ChicagoAddick
    ChicagoAddick Posts: 4,394
    Remember it vividly, although that video is truly shocking. I was at Welling that day, whilst Charlton were at Maine Road.

    Never forget.
  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
    I remember it happening far too vividly. Ive watched the unedited version a few times over the years just as a way of remembering the dead...it was truly, truly horrendous and lets hope we never see the likes again at any sporting event. RIP the 56.
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    edited May 2014
    As a ten yr old boy I don't think I ever really understood the enormity of what was unfolding or why I certainly didn't know where Bradford was or if id ever really go there

    But I sat infront of the TV watching the terrible pictures whilst my mum and dad were saying how terrible it was

    And how sad before my dad told me I should go out the front and play as it was not for kids to watch

    As I went out it was all anyone was talking about and did you see this not or that bit

    I don't think I want to watch that again


    Rip all who passed

    Football was a different world then and I know that we sometimes say that it has been ruined by money but I don't think that could ever happen again after the report into it was concluded and the money that was spent on grounds

  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,506
    It happened the day we were at Manchester City seeing them thump us 5-1 in front of 47,000 to get promoted. While we were caught up in the euphoria at Maine Road (and it was proper euphoria) we had no idea that this was happening at Bradford. The contrast between the two events was extraordinary.

    As an aside and for those that are too young to remember, the Bradford fire was one of the main reasons behind us leaving The Valley in 1985. After the fire, the Greater London Council carried out inspections of all London grounds and decided that our huge East Terrace wasn't fit for purpose (they were probably right as it was crumbling a bit in places) and we were forced to play the opening matches of 1985-86 with only three sides of the ground open and with a capacity of around 9,000.
  • I remember watching it live on the television as a young lad. I managed to mainly forget what I had seen until it was shown at work 20 odd years later as part of my Fire Marshal training. I found myself welling up as it all came back. Terrible, terrible day.