Greenwich Uni to be new sponsor - now partnering with Palace?! (p5)

Henry Irving

Where

Nug said:

Nice one. I was just about to post "Where's Nug with a mock up?" : - )

cafcfan

Perhaps it's this Greenwich University?

greenwich.pk/

AddicksAddict

Ross said:

Henry Irving said:

paulbaconsarnie said:

Some people won't be happy unless we get an exclusive deal with Microsoft, with £50 notes raining down Argentina '78 style before each home game.
And some won't be happy unless we fund greenpeace, the Red Cross and the Sally Army in a deal.

Microsoft next shirt sponsors and we're playing at the Greenpeace Valley? Source?

At least with the Greenpeace Valley we will always have grass on our pitch.

At the Greenpeace Valley, we'd have a whale of a time.

henrythecat

PL54 said:

University Of Greenwich - surely they mean West Woolwich College ?

All very benevolent but we need cash not goodwill.

Think you will find that UoG is more cash rich than Andrews are, and the turn over is also bigger. It also has a reasonable marketing budget.

A lot of Universities have been putting aside money for the last few years so are comparatively wealthy. If it is a deal that provides cash into the club, gives better facilities at sparrow's lane, and supports a local community then that must be a good thing.

Just for the record, UoG hasn't been in Woolwich for some time. It has around 30,000 students and provides good quality teaching to students who rate it as one of the top Universities for student satisfaction. It has a number of world class research centres which compete with any University in the world. It has good community links and there are a number of joint projects between the University and the trust.

RedChaser

AddicksAddict said:

Ross said:

Henry Irving said:

paulbaconsarnie said:

Some people won't be happy unless we get an exclusive deal with Microsoft, with £50 notes raining down Argentina '78 style before each home game.
And some won't be happy unless we fund greenpeace, the Red Cross and the Sally Army in a deal.

Microsoft next shirt sponsors and we're playing at the Greenpeace Valley? Source?

At least with the Greenpeace Valley we will always have grass on our pitch.

At the Greenpeace Valley, we'd have a whale of a time.

There you go again 'spouting' off, getting our hopes up :-)

_MrDick

Henry Irving said:

Valley McMoist said:

This would make sense. A strategic partner ploughing a couple of million into the training ground development. They get use of the facilities and shirt advertising...

Gone from 500k (which was v high imo) to 2m now. Danger of these numbers becoming "FACT" : - )

Let's wait and see if it is true and what the investment is and in what form. Cash? Contra?

Also I think there is a danger of seeing everything as part of a clever thought out strategy rather than taking advantage of an opportunity that arises.

Ok... I apologise for giving misleading information. I have no idea if UoG will invest £2m in CAFC but it was just an educated guess based on its annual report from 2013 and that they're investing £76m in an academic and library facility in Greenwich Town Centre. UoG aren't short of a few bob. The balance sheet can be seen here

vff

AddicksAddict said:

Stig said:

What's a contra deal?
Nothing to do with these fellas, I hope:

Hope it is. Viva la revolution!

That would be viva la counter revolution ?

Swisdom

FWIW - Millwall only had Prostate Cancer as their sponsor as they couldn't get anything else.

This was their plan Z

Nobody else wanted to be associated with them

Henry Irving

Swisdom said:

FWIW - Millwall only had Prostate Cancer as their sponsor as they couldn't get anything else.

This was their plan Z

Nobody else wanted to be associated with them

This. Well done to them for turning a negative (couldn't buy a sponsor) into a positive (supporting a charity).

Henry Irving

Valley McMoist said:

Henry Irving said:

Valley McMoist said:

This would make sense. A strategic partner ploughing a couple of million into the training ground development. They get use of the facilities and shirt advertising...

Gone from 500k (which was v high imo) to 2m now. Danger of these numbers becoming "FACT" : - )

Let's wait and see if it is true and what the investment is and in what form. Cash? Contra?

Also I think there is a danger of seeing everything as part of a clever thought out strategy rather than taking advantage of an opportunity that arises.

Ok... I apologise for giving misleading information. I have no idea if UoG will invest £2m in CAFC but it was just an educated guess based on its annual report from 2013 and that they're investing £76m in an academic and library facility in Greenwich Town Centre. UoG aren't short of a few bob. The balance sheet can be seen here

Agree that U of G have money and, if it is true, would be a good partner for lots of reasons but how it benefits Charlton financially now is still very important.

MrOneLung

Can they go retro with a Thames Poly logo ?

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vff

AddicksAddict said:

dizzee said:

vff said:

Charlton is in Greenwich. Greenwich is a university. It is not a dodgy lending company. Whats not to like ?

Universities are one of the most corrupt institutions. And student loans are 'a dodgy lending company'.

Re the first statement: I don't have an opinion either way, but any evidence?

Re the second statement: as it looks like an awful lot of student loans will end up being written off, they're dodgy for the Exchequer. I guess that's not what you meant, though.

dizzee said:

vff said:

Charlton is in Greenwich. Greenwich is a university. It is not a dodgy lending company. Whats not to like ?

Universities are one of the most corrupt institutions. And student loans are 'a dodgy lending company'.

I take it that you are an ex student / student 'benefitting' from a student loan.

Universities corrupt ? You will have to explain that one.

cafcdave123

Swisdom said:

FWIW - Millwall only had Prostate Cancer as their sponsor as they couldn't get anything else.

This was their plan Z

Nobody else wanted to be associated with them

I was told my a millwall supporting colleague that they turned down a loan company as sponsor as they didnt want to look like they endorsed it and as there was no other offers on the table they went with charity

cantersaddick

AddicksAddict said:

dizzee said:

vff said:

Charlton is in Greenwich. Greenwich is a university. It is not a dodgy lending company. Whats not to like ?

Universities are one of the most corrupt institutions. And student loans are 'a dodgy lending company'.

Re the first statement: I don't have an opinion either way, but any evidence?

Re the second statement: as it looks like an awful lot of student loans will end up being written off, they're dodgy for the Exchequer. I guess that's not what you meant, though.

Re student loans, they are did get for anyone who as any ambition to do reasonably well in life. If that happens then they will end up paying back eight or nine times what they borrowed! If they do really well they will end up paying more than 20 times what they borrowed! That is wonga proportions of interest!

razil

Wasn't it Woolwich Poly?

Did part of an MA at Greenwich a few years back, can't say my satisfaction levels were that high, it was not good..

kentaddick

universities, particularly the old polys now have a shit tonne of money coming in after the fees changed. My old uni (uni of west london) have basically built a new SU building and renovated the big lecture halls almost immediatley after the intake of £6-9k students. I think they've built a new "student village" nearby so you can move out of halls and go there. That and the new crossrail making ealing broadway - tottenham court rd a 10 min journey makes me feel i was born a few years too early! But i digress...

Hopefully we can really help each other. Happy with this sponser if true.

ShootersHillGuru

When it's on the OS.

vff

cantersaddick said:

AddicksAddict said:

dizzee said:

vff said:

Charlton is in Greenwich. Greenwich is a university. It is not a dodgy lending company. Whats not to like ?

Universities are one of the most corrupt institutions. And student loans are 'a dodgy lending company'.

Re the first statement: I don't have an opinion either way, but any evidence?

Re the second statement: as it looks like an awful lot of student loans will end up being written off, they're dodgy for the Exchequer. I guess that's not what you meant, though.

Re student loans, they are did get for anyone who as any ambition to do reasonably well in life. If that happens then they will end up paying back eight or nine times what they borrowed! If they do really well they will end up paying more than 20 times what they borrowed! That is wonga proportions of interest!

The student loan system sucks completely and the fees system reportedly will not save the tax payer any money at all. Neither of these are the fault of Greenwich University. The sponsor is Greenwich University and not the Student loan company.

Greenwich University is a good sponsor and positive news if it is definitely happening.

Elthamaddick

cafcdave123 said:

Swisdom said:

FWIW - Millwall only had Prostate Cancer as their sponsor as they couldn't get anything else.

This was their plan Z

Nobody else wanted to be associated with them

I was told my a millwall supporting colleague that they turned down a loan company as sponsor as they didnt want to look like they endorsed it and as there was no other offers on the table they went with charity

I think this is true

tangoflash

I've never had an account with the Woolwich or KRBS, Never owned a Viglen or Mesh computer, never bought sportswear from All-sports or Carbrini. Although I've driven a red bus, I've never owned one. Have never had an air-con unit in my home and never went to uni.

So, as long as they put money in the clubs account, I really don't give a shit.....................

Greg

cantersaddick said:

AddicksAddict said:

dizzee said:

vff said:

Charlton is in Greenwich. Greenwich is a university. It is not a dodgy lending company. Whats not to like ?

Universities are one of the most corrupt institutions. And student loans are 'a dodgy lending company'.

Re the first statement: I don't have an opinion either way, but any evidence?

Re the second statement: as it looks like an awful lot of student loans will end up being written off, they're dodgy for the Exchequer. I guess that's not what you meant, though.

Re student loans, they are did get for anyone who as any ambition to do reasonably well in life. If that happens then they will end up paying back eight or nine times what they borrowed! If they do really well they will end up paying more than 20 times what they borrowed! That is wonga proportions of interest!

Actually, its the opposite. The better you do, the sooner you pay off the debt, so the less interest accrues. The people who end up paying the most back are in the middle.

seth plum

My random thoughts are:

Local sponsor so good.
Nice to have the name of somewhere local on the shirt.
The training ground is hard by the Uni campus (used to be Avery Hill college back in the day), the campus has sports facilities there.
Our new training ground and their facilities, and their raison d'etre plus our raison d'etre, can engender tons of community and wider community initiatives.
There can be a win win situation financially in all this if managed well.
The publicity on the TV can considerably raise the Uni profile. They have lovely facilities in the heart of Greenwich, and are poised to be way ahead of the Uni of errr Luton for example, in growing the quality of the institution. With the right courses and so on, in London, there could be a huge benefit in attracting overseas students from Europe and from the Far East.
In the medium term, with some vision and creativity this link could attract more interest and support for Charlton, and also for SE London and the Uni. Our corner of London can be promoted as a fine place to be (especially compared to Watford/Tottenham/Norwood/Croydon and some other London clubs and places).
Being involved with an enterprise that promotes, thought, learning, civilized values, and so on, and an intelligent world view is all good to me. Much much better than a Wonga, or booze, or some other rip off outfit like an airline, even if the immediate financial benefit would be higher.
Andrews has been good, and big respect to them, but a link with Greenwich Uni offers more than Andrews can.

cantersaddick

Greg said:

cantersaddick said:

AddicksAddict said:

dizzee said:

vff said:

Charlton is in Greenwich. Greenwich is a university. It is not a dodgy lending company. Whats not to like ?

Universities are one of the most corrupt institutions. And student loans are 'a dodgy lending company'.

Re the first statement: I don't have an opinion either way, but any evidence?

Re the second statement: as it looks like an awful lot of student loans will end up being written off, they're dodgy for the Exchequer. I guess that's not what you meant, though.

Re student loans, they are did get for anyone who as any ambition to do reasonably well in life. If that happens then they will end up paying back eight or nine times what they borrowed! If they do really well they will end up paying more than 20 times what they borrowed! That is wonga proportions of interest!

Actually, its the opposite. The better you do, the sooner you pay off the debt, so the less interest accrues. The people who end up paying the most back are in the middle.

It would work like that if it wasn't for the fees added for early repayment making it significantly worse than it should be!

micks1950

Will we have to change our name to Charlton Academical.........?

Brendan_O_Connell

Bloody Tax Dodgers!! ;-)

Huskaris

The first time "University of Greenwich" being written on something will actually have a value.

Rothko

Here's hoping there are alumni rates on the kit then.

Bigger university then most would realise, cash rich, very well regarded on a number of levels, and one of the most beautiful campuses outside Oxbridge.

AddicksAddict

vff said:

AddicksAddict said:

dizzee said:

vff said:

Charlton is in Greenwich. Greenwich is a university. It is not a dodgy lending company. Whats not to like ?

Universities are one of the most corrupt institutions. And student loans are 'a dodgy lending company'.

Re the first statement: I don't have an opinion either way, but any evidence?

Re the second statement: as it looks like an awful lot of student loans will end up being written off, they're dodgy for the Exchequer. I guess that's not what you meant, though.

dizzee said:

vff said:

Charlton is in Greenwich. Greenwich is a university. It is not a dodgy lending company. Whats not to like ?

Universities are one of the most corrupt institutions. And student loans are 'a dodgy lending company'.

I take it that you are an ex student / student 'benefitting' from a student loan.

Universities corrupt ? You will have to explain that one.

If you mean me, yes I am an ex-student, but I benefited from a grant. I don't look old enough? You're too kind.

tricky

I don't know all the ins and outs of the Academy categorisation so might be irrelevant, but is there any chance that a "strategic partnership" with the University of Greenwich could also benefit our application for Tier 1 status in terms of the number of academic teaching hours for academy players?