Chris O'Grady not signing

AddicksAddict · June 2014

calydon_road said:

ShootersHillGuru said:
Fair play to him. Not all about money and family happiness should feature large in any decision making.
Nice sentiment shooters but you have been completely deceived, just as COG intended.

More money and he would be here IMO

Glad we played hardball and found him out.

Its not what they do, its the way they do it. I always question the type of character that tries to cover up his true intentions by telling ..yeah Kermit, thats for you baby.

I don't see anything wrong in saying "for X amount of money I won't uproot my family, but for more than that I will." I'm not aware of your family situation, but would the same possibly be true for you?

markmc68 · June 2014

He stays at Barnsley for another year and goes on a bosman. Nice signing on fee. Stays in the area. Cash in the bank. Happy days. Rather than slugging it out with church for starting berth at Charlton.
Better off getting someone like amoebi.

Swisdom · June 2014

markmc68 said:
He stays at Barnsley for another year and goes on a bosman. Nice signing on fee. Stays in the area. Cash in the bank. Happy days. Rather than slugging it out with church for starting berth at Charlton.
Better off getting someone like amoebi.

Steady on sunshine - that's a bookable offence.

If Ameobi is the answer I don't want to know what the question is

MuttleyCAFC · June 2014

I don't think he has shown loyalty, but don't wish him anything but the best with Barnsley next season - I hope they get back up. I don't think he was what we needed and by the look of it, nor does anybody else. He will be a good player in League One.

markmc68 · June 2014

Or heskey

markmc68 · June 2014

Sorry I was wetting myself as I was writing that.

Greenie · June 2014

Translation:-
'I don't want to go south, that Electricity stuff frightens me, and as for inside toilets, what a stupid idea'

[Deleted User] · June 2014

AddicksAddict said:

calydon_road said:

ShootersHillGuru said:
Fair play to him. Not all about money and family happiness should feature large in any decision making.
Nice sentiment shooters but you have been completely deceived, just as COG intended.

More money and he would be here IMO

Glad we played hardball and found him out.

Its not what they do, its the way they do it. I always question the type of character that tries to cover up his true intentions by telling ..yeah Kermit, thats for you baby.
I don't see anything wrong in saying "for X amount of money I won't uproot my family, but for more than that I will." I'm not aware of your family situation, but would the same possibly be true for you?

I didnt say there was anything wrong with it...was more commenting on how it was perceived by SHG.

yes indeedy, I would have done the same.

bu you never know what amount of money will make you happy all you know is that is MORE

scoring goals (or whatever most of us actually have to do in real life to earn a living) and making a positive impact is always going to put a smile on your face

markmc68 · June 2014

Seriously what target man is out there for us ?

I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY · June 2014

markmc68 said:
Seriously what target man is out there for us ?

I'd love us to sign Stefan Maierhofer under the noses of Millwall.

Atletico Addick · June 2014

Can't say I am a little bit surprised. Be surprised if and when we sign one experienced Championship player, we'll look elsewhere for cheaper and easier options.

thenewbie · June 2014

Atletico Addick said:
Can't say I am a little bit surprised. Be surprised if and when we sign one experienced Championship player, we'll look elsewhere for cheaper and easier options.

Cheap and easy? Like the highly rated, £2million+ Vetokele cheap?

Atletico Addick · June 2014

thenewbie said:

Atletico Addick said:
Can't say I am a little bit surprised. Be surprised if and when we sign one experienced Championship player, we'll look elsewhere for cheaper and easier options.
Cheap and easy? Like the highly rated, £2million+ Vetokele cheap?

We'll = we will = future tense.

:-)

thenewbie · June 2014

Atletico Addick said:

thenewbie said:

Atletico Addick said:
Can't say I am a little bit surprised. Be surprised if and when we sign one experienced Championship player, we'll look elsewhere for cheaper and easier options.
Cheap and easy? Like the highly rated, £2million+ Vetokele cheap?
We'll = we will = future tense.

:-)

Touche. Nonetheless from what Prague's source has said the fact that we got Buyens 'cheaply and easily' is something to thank the network effect for, he wouldn't come cheap otherwise. Vetokele clearly cost a fair wedge even if the exact sum is up for debate too, and O'Grady was clearly looking for some pretty high wages by his own (implicit) admission. I really can't see any reason we shouldn't assume this is the calibre of player we will be looking at further down the line too. The only real gamble is Ansah but when CP did his big squad revamp in League One he was taking chances as well- Pritchard and Cook for example.

Garrymanilow · June 2014

thenewbie said:

Atletico Addick said:
Can't say I am a little bit surprised. Be surprised if and when we sign one experienced Championship player, we'll look elsewhere for cheaper and easier options.
Cheap and easy? Like the highly rated, £2million+ Vetokele cheap?

We probably will be looking at cheaper options now we've reportedly spent £2m on Igor. No Championship team can throw much more around and break even. Yet to see a shred of reputable evidence outside of Twitter that we spent that though so we'll have to see

thenewbie · June 2014

Garrymanilow said:

thenewbie said:

Atletico Addick said:
Can't say I am a little bit surprised. Be surprised if and when we sign one experienced Championship player, we'll look elsewhere for cheaper and easier options.
Cheap and easy? Like the highly rated, £2million+ Vetokele cheap?
We probably will be looking at cheaper options now we've reportedly spent £2m on Igor. No Championship team can throw much more around and break even. Yet to see a shred of reputable evidence outside of Twitter that we spent that though so we'll have to see

I seem to recall that people on the Belgian end were reporting fees of around that much, I could be wrong though. Even so, I still think there we may well end up spending maybe even 4-5million over this window and January if our position is strong. Prague's source seems to suggest the view in Belgium is RD is now focusing on Charlton.

Airman Brown · June 2014

thenewbie said:

Atletico Addick said:

thenewbie said:

Atletico Addick said:
Can't say I am a little bit surprised. Be surprised if and when we sign one experienced Championship player, we'll look elsewhere for cheaper and easier options.
Cheap and easy? Like the highly rated, £2million+ Vetokele cheap?
We'll = we will = future tense.

:-)
Touche. Nonetheless from what Prague's source has said the fact that we got Buyens 'cheaply and easily' is something to thank the network effect for, he wouldn't come cheap otherwise. Vetokele clearly cost a fair wedge even if the exact sum is up for debate too, and O'Grady was clearly looking for some pretty high wages by his own (implicit) admission. I really can't see any reason we shouldn't assume this is the calibre of player we will be looking at further down the line too. The only real gamble is Ansah but when CP did his big squad revamp in League One he was taking chances as well- Pritchard and Cook for example.

Cook was signed in 2012, after we'd been promoted.

Oggy Red · June 2014

That's right, Airman.

Jordan Cook impressed playing for Carlisle in the game in which we clinched promotion.

He was signed in the early summer from his parent club, Sunderland.

Oggy Red · June 2014

Although, there was Lee Cook - signed on loan and played many of the last few games in the promotion winning side.

Groucho78MFC · June 2014

I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:

markmc68 said:
Seriously what target man is out there for us ?
I'd love us to sign Stefan Maierhofer under the noses of Millwall.

That's an odd one. Whilst I won't doubt that his presence definitely added something, he was absolutely useless. I think because we were crying out for something to drag us out of the sh:te we were in. His arrival coincided with a (slight) upturn in fortunes, so we immediately attributed that to him. In hindsight, I'm not so sure.

IH spoke to him at the end of the season about a 1 year deal, and SM said (...and I quote) "I'm going to hold out for an offer from the Premier League"....

Oh how we laughed!

You're more likely to find Maierhofer working in TBR Manzes than you are in the Premier League.

I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY · June 2014

Groucho78MFC said:

I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:

markmc68 said:
Seriously what target man is out there for us ?
I'd love us to sign Stefan Maierhofer under the noses of Millwall.
That's an odd one. Whilst I won't doubt that his presence definitely added something, he was absolutely useless. I think because we were crying out for something to drag us out of the sh:te we were in. His arrival coincided with a (slight) upturn in fortunes, so we immediately attributed that to him. In hindsight, I'm not so sure.

IH spoke to him at the end of the season about a 1 year deal, and SM said (...and I quote) "I'm going to hold out for an offer from the Premier League"....

Oh how we laughed!

You're more likely to find Maierhofer working in TBR Manzes than you are in the Premier League.

Thats a completely different story to what people were saying whilst he was playing for you.

LargeAddick · June 2014

although disappointed I'd rather he made this decision than come for the money, be homesick, regret it and not perform. Fair play to him.

Elthamaddick · June 2014

LargeAddick said:
although disappointed I'd rather he made this decision than come for the money, be homesick, regret it and not perform. Fair play to him.

exactly, another Andy Gray/Dale Stephens scenerio (although look where Stephens ended up)

CharltonByBlood · June 2014

chester_conrad said:

Henry Irving said:
I reckon he's coming to SE7

Correct.

Wasn't very correct was it ? And you seem to question my source a fair bit

Groucho78MFC · June 2014

I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:

Groucho78MFC said:

I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:

markmc68 said:
Seriously what target man is out there for us ?
I'd love us to sign Stefan Maierhofer under the noses of Millwall.
That's an odd one. Whilst I won't doubt that his presence definitely added something, he was absolutely useless. I think because we were crying out for something to drag us out of the sh:te we were in. His arrival coincided with a (slight) upturn in fortunes, so we immediately attributed that to him. In hindsight, I'm not so sure.

IH spoke to him at the end of the season about a 1 year deal, and SM said (...and I quote) "I'm going to hold out for an offer from the Premier League"....

Oh how we laughed!

You're more likely to find Maierhofer working in TBR Manzes than you are in the Premier League.

Thats a completely different story to what people were saying whilst he was playing for you.

I refer the honourable gentleman back to my first paragraph.

No doubt there were quite a few that were singing his praises. You couldn't deny that he gave defenders something to think about at 9ft tall. But when the dust settled and we were safe, we can look back and safely say that he was, at best, mediocre. If there's a Millwall fan that still wants IH to offer him a deal, I'll be surprised.