Simon Webster was a towering force: I recall him heading away all of West Ham's punts and crosses at a top-tier game at Upton Park in 1992. We won 1-0 (Pardew), and West Ham finished second under champions Newcastle. Webster must have impressed the West Ham manager that day, because they bought him at the end of the season.
Simon Webster was a towering force: I recall him heading away all of West Ham's punts and crosses at a top-tier game at Upton Park in 1992. We won 1-0 (Pardew), and West Ham finished second under champions Newcastle. Webster must have impressed the West Ham manager that day, because they bought him at the end of the season.
...no sooner had he joined them than Dicks (I think) effectively ended his career by crocking him in training. Skipper Webbo - a towering force indeed and a great bloke.
yer know, looking at all the inspired suggestions for best centre backs over the years, we really have featured some truly top performers!!! for me, the definitive defender memory rekindled by this thread : paul went - a giant presence!
Anybody remember Arthur Horsfield. I think he never missed a game in three seasons, two up front, and then when his legs started to go he had a season at centre half, or am I remembering it all wrong?
Anybody remember Arthur Horsfield. I think he never missed a game in three seasons, two up front, and then when his legs started to go he had a season at centre half, or am I remembering it all wrong?
That's quite correct. Good old King Arthur: scored 29 goals in his first season, 20 in the second, and 12 in the third while playing centre-half.
Anybody remember Arthur Horsfield. I think he never missed a game in three seasons, two up front, and then when his legs started to go he had a season at centre half, or am I remembering it all wrong?
That's quite correct. Good old King Arthur: scored 29 goals in his first season, 20 in the second, and 12 in the third while playing centre-half.
Interesting , I often thought that part of the value that Leaburn, Bartlett and Kermorgant gave to the team was how they did their defensive duties. Could they have played at centre back for a whole match though? Has the game changed so much that these sorts of arrangements would not be viable today?
Ronnie Moore also made a similar move in 1984/85 and I think as a Charlton player he performed better in that position than up front.
Anybody remember Arthur Horsfield. I think he never missed a game in three seasons, two up front, and then when his legs started to go he had a season at centre half, or am I remembering it all wrong?
That's quite correct. Good old King Arthur: scored 29 goals in his first season, 20 in the second, and 12 in the third while playing centre-half.
Interesting , I often thought that part of the value that Leaburn, Bartlett and Kermorgant gave to the team was how they did their defensive duties. Could they have played at centre back for a whole match though? Has the game changed so much that these sorts of arrangements would not be viable today?
Ronnie Moore also made a similar move in 1984/85 and I think as a Charlton player he performed better in that position than up front.
I suppose a few unusually gifted players are adaptable; who was the guy at Oldham about 30 years ago who excelled up front and in defence?
I'm not impressed that when Cousins is moved about twenty yards right of his 'natural' position, he plays badly.
Been watching since the early 90's, favourite 5 would have to be:
1. Rufus 2. Costa 3. Youds 4. Fish 5. Morrison
Can't believe Phil Chapple hasn't had a mention anywhere (that I've seen), one of my earliest memories is his knees pumping up and down when he was in full flow!
Anybody remember Arthur Horsfield. I think he never missed a game in three seasons, two up front, and then when his legs started to go he had a season at centre half, or am I remembering it all wrong?
That's quite correct. Good old King Arthur: scored 29 goals in his first season, 20 in the second, and 12 in the third while playing centre-half.
Interesting , I often thought that part of the value that Leaburn, Bartlett and Kermorgant gave to the team was how they did their defensive duties. Could they have played at centre back for a whole match though? Has the game changed so much that these sorts of arrangements would not be viable today?
Ronnie Moore also made a similar move in 1984/85 and I think as a Charlton player he performed better in that position than up front.
I suppose a few unusually gifted players are adaptable; who was the guy at Oldham about 30 years ago who excelled up front and in defence?
I'm not impressed that when Cousins is moved about twenty yards right of his 'natural' position, he plays badly.
Anybody remember Arthur Horsfield. I think he never missed a game in three seasons, two up front, and then when his legs started to go he had a season at centre half, or am I remembering it all wrong?
That's quite correct. Good old King Arthur: scored 29 goals in his first season, 20 in the second, and 12 in the third while playing centre-half.
Interesting , I often thought that part of the value that Leaburn, Bartlett and Kermorgant gave to the team was how they did their defensive duties. Could they have played at centre back for a whole match though? Has the game changed so much that these sorts of arrangements would not be viable today?
Ronnie Moore also made a similar move in 1984/85 and I think as a Charlton player he performed better in that position than up front.
I suppose a few unusually gifted players are adaptable; who was the guy at Oldham about 30 years ago who excelled up front and in defence?
I'm not impressed that when Cousins is moved about twenty yards right of his 'natural' position, he plays badly.
Anybody remember Arthur Horsfield. I think he never missed a game in three seasons, two up front, and then when his legs started to go he had a season at centre half, or am I remembering it all wrong?
That's quite correct. Good old King Arthur: scored 29 goals in his first season, 20 in the second, and 12 in the third while playing centre-half.
Interesting , I often thought that part of the value that Leaburn, Bartlett and Kermorgant gave to the team was how they did their defensive duties. Could they have played at centre back for a whole match though? Has the game changed so much that these sorts of arrangements would not be viable today?
Ronnie Moore also made a similar move in 1984/85 and I think as a Charlton player he performed better in that position than up front.
I suppose a few unusually gifted players are adaptable; who was the guy at Oldham about 30 years ago who excelled up front and in defence?
I'm not impressed that when Cousins is moved about twenty yards right of his 'natural' position, he plays badly.
Paul Warhurst
Correct.
He looked better up front to me but was ok at the back. Also had a bit of a spell at Crystal Palace.
I've broadened this a bit. Here are my five favourite goals scored by Charlton centre halves:-
Richard Rufus in the play-off final Jon Fortune in the 2-2 draw against "we sent the palace down" Dave Shipperley in a 2-0 win at The Den in the 70s The Don in the last minute in a 2-1 win against Palace in the early 80s Peter Shirtliff's second in the play-off win against Leeds
Anybody remember Arthur Horsfield. I think he never missed a game in three seasons, two up front, and then when his legs started to go he had a season at centre half, or am I remembering it all wrong?
That's quite correct. Good old King Arthur: scored 29 goals in his first season, 20 in the second, and 12 in the third while playing centre-half.
Interesting , I often thought that part of the value that Leaburn, Bartlett and Kermorgant gave to the team was how they did their defensive duties. Could they have played at centre back for a whole match though? Has the game changed so much that these sorts of arrangements would not be viable today?
Ronnie Moore also made a similar move in 1984/85 and I think as a Charlton player he performed better in that position than up front.
I suppose a few unusually gifted players are adaptable; who was the guy at Oldham about 30 years ago who excelled up front and in defence?
I'm not impressed that when Cousins is moved about twenty yards right of his 'natural' position, he plays badly.
chris sutton springs to mind.
at Charlton, i agree with the @PeakieRocket, Morts had some great games at CH
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Went - an absolute beast, with thighs like tree trunks.. A pity he missed a chunk of the 68/69 season with injury
Elliot - heartbreaking to lose him to Luton for 95K
Shirtliff - one of Lennie's greatest signings
Pates - a very cultured and under-rated central defender
Rufus - our best defender in the last 25 years
Rufus
Pates
Caton
Elliott
Brown
Costa
Perry
Rufus
Youds
Fish just misses out
Rufus
Brown
Shipperley
Went
Fish
Webster
Thompson
Shirtliff
All would die for the cause.
Rufus
Youds
Fish
Costa
Shirtliff
Perry
Costa
Fish
Best emergency centre back: Paul Mortimer
Ronnie Moore also made a similar move in 1984/85 and I think as a Charlton player he performed better in that position than up front.
I'm not impressed that when Cousins is moved about twenty yards right of his 'natural' position, he plays badly.
1. Rufus
2. Costa
3. Youds
4. Fish
5. Morrison
Can't believe Phil Chapple hasn't had a mention anywhere (that I've seen), one of my earliest memories is his knees pumping up and down when he was in full flow!
Paul Elliott
Jorge Costa
Mark Fish
Richard Rufus
Richard Rufus in the play-off final
Jon Fortune in the 2-2 draw against "we sent the palace down"
Dave Shipperley in a 2-0 win at The Den in the 70s
The Don in the last minute in a 2-1 win against Palace in the early 80s
Peter Shirtliff's second in the play-off win against Leeds
at Charlton, i agree with the @PeakieRocket, Morts had some great games at CH