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  • Thanks B, I think I can imagine what's gone in the dogs head. But need a few answers to some questions before I I give my opinion.
  • T.C.E said:

    Thanks B, I think I can imagine what's gone in the dogs head. But need a few answers to some questions before I I give my opinion.

    Does the B stand for Barbara (Woodhouse)?
  • Has it been put down yet?
  • Has it been put down yet?

    Sensitively put.
  • Has it been put down yet?

    Sensitively put.
    Lets hope the OP puts it "sensitively" to the child who's face it bites offs family that it was "always such a nice dog."

    Dogs that attack people need to be destroyed.
  • Huskaris said:

    Has it been put down yet?

    Sensitively put.
    Lets hope the OP puts it "sensitively" to the child who's face it bites offs family that it was "always such a nice dog."

    Dogs that attack people need to be destroyed.
    This.
  • Huskaris said:

    Has it been put down yet?

    Sensitively put.
    Lets hope the OP puts it "sensitively" to the child who's face it bites offs family that it was "always such a nice dog."

    Dogs that attack people need to be destroyed.
    This.
    I'm afraid I agree , shouldn't even be a debate.
  • I'm not debating the "Destroying the dog" comments, but I'm interested in the comments when something negative happens, up against when my dog works with children and I something positive is happening yet gets little response other than the regular names. (and very welcome they are). Interestingly enough, both itv and channel 4 have turned down the offer of spending the day with my dogs and the Upbeats in favour of "Dangerous Dogs and their Idiot owners" I assume as it's not good TV.
  • Have personal experience of dog attacking my daughter, so maybe my views are a bit biased.
  • My comment wasn't in defence of the dog nor was it in any way playing down the fact that the dog had bitten someone. I just feel that referring to the dog as 'it' is a bit harsh for leftbehind to have to read. It's highly likely that the dog is considered a loved member of the family and not considered an 'it'. For leftbehind to have to deal with the fact that a trusted pet could do something so apparently out of character must be extremely distressing. Added to that having to make the decision as to what to do is stressful and quite likely heartbreaking. It's certainly not something I'd like to have to deal with.
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  • My dog got ripped apart (Cross Lurcher with Collie, looked like Disney dog) by 6 staffs, my son was walking him, the dog was 12 yo and had never ever growled all his life and that was growing up with 2 toddlers as a pup. My son was 15 at time and they just jumped over their garden fence and went ballistic, 200plus stitches, totally unprovoked.

    My son was beside himself running back holding his neck together, I wont go into logistics but the owner paid all fees, 1 week later they turned on each other and he had to have 3 put down.

    My dog recovered but only lasted about another year, he was truly the best, loving, mischievous dog you would ever meet, some on here would vouch.

    Everybody says, Staffies, 'they are such loving dogs' etc etc, I just never have and never will see that point of view, goes for all them Bull Terrier breeds.

    Pain in the arse, cant even feel comfortable walking a buggy with my baby in past them.
  • Fully understand that if your child has been bitten it's a sensitive subject. Dave Mehmets daughter was nervous around dogs, never had chance to discuss why yet they are both at virtually every visit we make to SL. As if she still is or not perhaps DM could answer that? I'm a firm believer in education in children as well training the dogs, for example children in some schools when out on school trips are told to lift their hands across their chest when a dog approaches. I'm guessing the teacher that told them that don't have dog!
  • My comment wasn't in defence of the dog nor was it in any way playing down the fact that the dog had bitten someone. I just feel that referring to the dog as 'it' is a bit harsh for leftbehind to have to read. It's highly likely that the dog is considered a loved member of the family and not considered an 'it'. For leftbehind to have to deal with the fact that a trusted pet could do something so apparently out of character must be extremely distressing. Added to that having to make the decision as to what to do is stressful and quite likely heartbreaking. It's certainly not something I'd like to have to deal with.

    Its a dog that bit someone - and could obviously do it again. Should be put down before it does it again.
    I certainly dont want to see anyone in the pain that my daughter had 4/5 years ago - all caused by some maniacal dog who shouldnt have been free to roam.
    Simple choice for me.
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    edited August 2014
    http://www.bluecross.org.uk/1714-2161/victoria-animal-hospital.html

    Nice staff. Give them a call. They may be able to help (or offer some decent advice).
  • T.C.E said:

    I'm not debating the "Destroying the dog" comments, but I'm interested in the comments when something negative happens, up against when my dog works with children and I something positive is happening yet gets little response other than the regular names. (and very welcome they are). Interestingly enough, both itv and channel 4 have turned down the offer of spending the day with my dogs and the Upbeats in favour of "Dangerous Dogs and their Idiot owners" I assume as it's not good TV.


    I'm sure millions would tune in to watch Pluto the well behaved dog.
  • My comment wasn't in defence of the dog nor was it in any way playing down the fact that the dog had bitten someone. I just feel that referring to the dog as 'it' is a bit harsh for leftbehind to have to read. It's highly likely that the dog is considered a loved member of the family and not considered an 'it'. For leftbehind to have to deal with the fact that a trusted pet could do something so apparently out of character must be extremely distressing. Added to that having to make the decision as to what to do is stressful and quite likely heartbreaking. It's certainly not something I'd like to have to deal with.

    Its a dog that bit someone - and could obviously do it again. Should be put down before it does it again.
    I certainly dont want to see anyone in the pain that my daughter had 4/5 years ago - all caused by some maniacal dog who shouldnt have been free to roam.
    Simple choice for me.
    I hope you don't mind me asking, Mr President?
    How are your daughter, you and your family dealing with everyday life since she was bitten? Obviously dogs are here to stay and part and parcel of everyday life and while the whole event must have traumatic and distressing let alone painful for your daughter and the family I was wondering how she deals with it when she goes out, I could understand how it could develop into full blown cynophobia if the fear was to continue.

  • Huskaris said:

    T.C.E said:

    I'm not debating the "Destroying the dog" comments, but I'm interested in the comments when something negative happens, up against when my dog works with children and I something positive is happening yet gets little response other than the regular names. (and very welcome they are). Interestingly enough, both itv and channel 4 have turned down the offer of spending the day with my dogs and the Upbeats in favour of "Dangerous Dogs and their Idiot owners" I assume as it's not good TV.


    I'm sure millions would tune in to watch Pluto the well behaved dog.
    Just out of interest, did you watch the dangerous dogs programme?

  • My dog got ripped apart (Cross Lurcher with Collie, looked like Disney dog) by 6 staffs, my son was walking him, the dog was 12 yo and had never ever growled all his life and that was growing up with 2 toddlers as a pup. My son was 15 at time and they just jumped over their garden fence and went ballistic, 200plus stitches, totally unprovoked.

    My son was beside himself running back holding his neck together, I wont go into logistics but the owner paid all fees, 1 week later they turned on each other and he had to have 3 put down.

    My dog recovered but only lasted about another year, he was truly the best, loving, mischievous dog you would ever meet, some on here would vouch.

    Everybody says, Staffies, 'they are such loving dogs' etc etc, I just never have and never will see that point of view, goes for all them Bull Terrier breeds.

    Pain in the arse, cant even feel comfortable walking a buggy with my baby in past them.

    Bailey was set upon by four corgis on the beach a few weeks ago, Bailey was told to stand still by myself. I told the lady concerned who thought it was amusing, I told her Bailey would be allowed him to defend himself if one of her dogs laid a set of teeth on him. She soon found some urgency to remove her dogs and tried to leave without so much of a word of apology. Please, Blame the deed not the breed.
  • edited August 2014
    T.C.E said:

    My dog got ripped apart (Cross Lurcher with Collie, looked like Disney dog) by 6 staffs, my son was walking him, the dog was 12 yo and had never ever growled all his life and that was growing up with 2 toddlers as a pup. My son was 15 at time and they just jumped over their garden fence and went ballistic, 200plus stitches, totally unprovoked.

    My son was beside himself running back holding his neck together, I wont go into logistics but the owner paid all fees, 1 week later they turned on each other and he had to have 3 put down.

    My dog recovered but only lasted about another year, he was truly the best, loving, mischievous dog you would ever meet, some on here would vouch.

    Everybody says, Staffies, 'they are such loving dogs' etc etc, I just never have and never will see that point of view, goes for all them Bull Terrier breeds.

    Pain in the arse, cant even feel comfortable walking a buggy with my baby in past them.

    Bailey was set upon by four corgis on the beach a few weeks ago, Bailey was told to stand still by myself. I told the lady concerned who thought it was amusing, I told her Bailey would be allowed him to defend himself if one of her dogs laid a set of teeth on him. She soon found some urgency to remove her dogs and tried to leave without so much of a word of apology. Please, Blame the deed not the breed.
    This. After the same woman twice let her yappy little jack russell come snapping at mine who was on the lead I didn't bother to say anything. I just slipped his lead and let him do what he wanted. Which was chase the shortarsed little f****er into the trees. I gave him a treat and we left her looking for it. It is obvious that many owners of small dogs don't bother to train them at all.
  • T.C.E said:

    My dog got ripped apart (Cross Lurcher with Collie, looked like Disney dog) by 6 staffs, my son was walking him, the dog was 12 yo and had never ever growled all his life and that was growing up with 2 toddlers as a pup. My son was 15 at time and they just jumped over their garden fence and went ballistic, 200plus stitches, totally unprovoked.

    My son was beside himself running back holding his neck together, I wont go into logistics but the owner paid all fees, 1 week later they turned on each other and he had to have 3 put down.

    My dog recovered but only lasted about another year, he was truly the best, loving, mischievous dog you would ever meet, some on here would vouch.

    Everybody says, Staffies, 'they are such loving dogs' etc etc, I just never have and never will see that point of view, goes for all them Bull Terrier breeds.

    Pain in the arse, cant even feel comfortable walking a buggy with my baby in past them.

    Bailey was set upon by four corgis on the beach a few weeks ago, Bailey was told to stand still by myself. I told the lady concerned who thought it was amusing, I told her Bailey would be allowed him to defend himself if one of her dogs laid a set of teeth on him. She soon found some urgency to remove her dogs and tried to leave without so much of a word of apology. Please, Blame the deed not the breed.
    There is a slight difference between 4 Corgis to a Alsation than a Lurcher who doesn't even bark let alone bite to 6 'well bred' Staffs tbh mate
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  • T.C.E said:

    My dog got ripped apart (Cross Lurcher with Collie, looked like Disney dog) by 6 staffs, my son was walking him, the dog was 12 yo and had never ever growled all his life and that was growing up with 2 toddlers as a pup. My son was 15 at time and they just jumped over their garden fence and went ballistic, 200plus stitches, totally unprovoked.

    My son was beside himself running back holding his neck together, I wont go into logistics but the owner paid all fees, 1 week later they turned on each other and he had to have 3 put down.

    My dog recovered but only lasted about another year, he was truly the best, loving, mischievous dog you would ever meet, some on here would vouch.

    Everybody says, Staffies, 'they are such loving dogs' etc etc, I just never have and never will see that point of view, goes for all them Bull Terrier breeds.

    Pain in the arse, cant even feel comfortable walking a buggy with my baby in past them.

    Bailey was set upon by four corgis on the beach a few weeks ago, Bailey was told to stand still by myself. I told the lady concerned who thought it was amusing, I told her Bailey would be allowed him to defend himself if one of her dogs laid a set of teeth on him. She soon found some urgency to remove her dogs and tried to leave without so much of a word of apology. Please, Blame the deed not the breed.
    There is a slight difference between 4 Corgis to a Alsation than a Lurcher who doesn't even bark let alone bite to 6 'well bred' Staffs tbh mate
    A out of control dog biting something is still an out of control dog. I met when I lived in London a 16 year old lad, with a Staffy that trained to a standard I could have only dreamed off at that time. Obviously you have had a horrible experience with Staffs and can understand why you would feel that way.
  • Staffs do seem to appeal to w******rs. Which is a shame for the staffy owners that aren't w****rs.
  • T.C.E said:

    Huskaris said:

    T.C.E said:

    I'm not debating the "Destroying the dog" comments, but I'm interested in the comments when something negative happens, up against when my dog works with children and I something positive is happening yet gets little response other than the regular names. (and very welcome they are). Interestingly enough, both itv and channel 4 have turned down the offer of spending the day with my dogs and the Upbeats in favour of "Dangerous Dogs and their Idiot owners" I assume as it's not good TV.


    I'm sure millions would tune in to watch Pluto the well behaved dog.
    Just out of interest, did you watch the dangerous dogs programme?

    Are you referring to the Channel 5 one the other day?

    Yeah I watched that, its the dogs I feel sympathy for. It's not their fault they were raised that way, but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be destroyed any less.

    I commend that woman for trying to keep those two dogs that had been used for fighting, but she is willfully blind to what those dogs actually are (As shown by the fight they had)

    One of them was round here? The right little b*stard, was round Sutcliffe Park in the show wasn't he?
  • T.C.E said:

    Interestingly enough, both itv and channel 4 have turned down the offer of spending the day with my dogs and the Upbeats in favour of "Dangerous Dogs and their Idiot owners" I assume as it's not good TV.

    Probably more to do with the fact you've got a perfect face for radio mate (just kidding!)
  • T.C.E said:

    Interestingly enough, both itv and channel 4 have turned down the offer of spending the day with my dogs and the Upbeats in favour of "Dangerous Dogs and their Idiot owners" I assume as it's not good TV.

    Probably more to do with the fact you've got a perfect face for radio mate (just kidding!)
    They turned me down as well.............. ;)


  • Get attacked by my dog every evening, i always win though
  • Huskaris said:

    T.C.E said:

    Huskaris said:

    T.C.E said:

    I'm not debating the "Destroying the dog" comments, but I'm interested in the comments when something negative happens, up against when my dog works with children and I something positive is happening yet gets little response other than the regular names. (and very welcome they are). Interestingly enough, both itv and channel 4 have turned down the offer of spending the day with my dogs and the Upbeats in favour of "Dangerous Dogs and their Idiot owners" I assume as it's not good TV.


    I'm sure millions would tune in to watch Pluto the well behaved dog.
    Just out of interest, did you watch the dangerous dogs programme?

    Are you referring to the Channel 5 one the other day?

    Yeah I watched that, its the dogs I feel sympathy for. It's not their fault they were raised that way, but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be destroyed any less.

    I commend that woman for trying to keep those two dogs that had been used for fighting, but she is willfully blind to what those dogs actually are (As shown by the fight they had)

    One of them was round here? The right little b*stard, was round Sutcliffe Park in the show wasn't he?
    So is it safe to assume that by your "Pluto the well behaved dog" comment, a TV programme showing the positive sides of dog ownership. ie: a well trained, well behaved dog possibly a dog that gives a return to society, be it a Guide dog, Search & Rescue Dog, Seeing/Hearing Dog, Cynophobia Dog would be of no interest to yourself? Yet, you will watch a programme showing some of the Idiots that have dogs. I havent watched the programme, so wont comment on that, but having been on a tv programme I have first hand experience of what the editors are capable of doing with a piece of film and that was showing my dog in a positive light.... (a polite enquiry) you are aware there is a huge difference between dogs fighting and fighting dogs?
  • Get attacked by my dog every evening, i always win though

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  • T.C.E said:

    Get attacked by my dog every evening, i always win though

    I love my "Welcome Home"
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    Haha, not sure I'd love a pink dick welcoming me.home every night, only joking mate: )
  • T.C.E said:


    Huskaris said:

    T.C.E said:

    Huskaris said:

    T.C.E said:

    I'm not debating the "Destroying the dog" comments, but I'm interested in the comments when something negative happens, up against when my dog works with children and I something positive is happening yet gets little response other than the regular names. (and very welcome they are). Interestingly enough, both itv and channel 4 have turned down the offer of spending the day with my dogs and the Upbeats in favour of "Dangerous Dogs and their Idiot owners" I assume as it's not good TV.


    I'm sure millions would tune in to watch Pluto the well behaved dog.
    Just out of interest, did you watch the dangerous dogs programme?

    Are you referring to the Channel 5 one the other day?

    Yeah I watched that, its the dogs I feel sympathy for. It's not their fault they were raised that way, but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be destroyed any less.

    I commend that woman for trying to keep those two dogs that had been used for fighting, but she is willfully blind to what those dogs actually are (As shown by the fight they had)

    One of them was round here? The right little b*stard, was round Sutcliffe Park in the show wasn't he?
    So is it safe to assume that by your "Pluto the well behaved dog" comment, a TV programme showing the positive sides of dog ownership. ie: a well trained, well behaved dog possibly a dog that gives a return to society, be it a Guide dog, Search & Rescue Dog, Seeing/Hearing Dog, Cynophobia Dog would be of no interest to yourself? Yet, you will watch a programme showing some of the Idiots that have dogs. I havent watched the programme, so wont comment on that, but having been on a tv programme I have first hand experience of what the editors are capable of doing with a piece of film and that was showing my dog in a positive light.... (a polite enquiry) you are aware there is a huge difference between dogs fighting and fighting dogs?
    I am aware of the great work that dogs do as well yes, but I'm not sure enough people would watch a programme like that and it just wouldn't get commissioned, although to be fair they do pop up from time to time.

    And as for dog fighting vs fighting dogs I do know a fair bit. I helped to construct the mayors policy on dangerous dogs in 2009/10, we got it approved and then it got shot down by Boris unfortunately. I basically spent three months on that. Haha
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