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Genius. So now we know that UKIP are less prevalent in areas of the country with higher levels of immigrants per capita. Wow!0
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Would you not think it the other way round? Those that live with immigrants might be more against them? Seems not2
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Great map. Seems to be the fear of immigration drives UKIP support.Callumcafc said:
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Find it fascinating that so many people get so worked up about immigration when there are so many other things happening in the world. People need to relax and not obsess about nationality. We only get one life.7
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The map shows done areas have high levels of immigration.
Some genius has worked out that turkey's don't vote for Christmas.2 -
Don't agree with that. More likely that the fear of immigration is over hyped. Even in places where there is a high immigrant population, mostly white UK people are in the majority. The above statement regarding Turkeys and Christmas doesn't hold water.smudge7946 said:The map shows done areas have high levels of immigration.
Some genius has worked out that turkey's don't vote for Christmas.
When knowing people from elsewhere they become people and not the caricature strange others that the Daily Mail writes about / UKIP talks about.6 -
Funny thing is..............it`s Con/Lib/Lab that are doing all of the talking about immigration. Empty weasel words, lies and broken promises in abundance as usual.0
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Because they are being forced into the discussion. The growth in support of UKIP and the right in general means that they can't just put it lower down the list of importance that it should be.E-cafc said:Funny thing is..............it`s Con/Lib/Lab that are doing all of the talking about immigration. Empty weasel words, lies and broken promises in abundance as usual.
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And they are all saying the same thing. And they are all arguing between and within each other. They are all in such disarray, all because a SE London educated voice has galvanized (for the moment) inner Britain.E-cafc said:Funny thing is..............it`s Con/Lib/Lab that are doing all of the talking about immigration. Empty weasel words, lies and broken promises in abundance as usual.
From the Guardian, Frank Field
Ed Miliband’s failure to acknowledge deep-seated concerns about immigration presents a threat to Labour on the same scale as the attempted infiltration by Militant in the 1980s and the divisive tactics of the late Tony Benn, the former minister Frank Field has said.
In the most hard-hitting attack on the Labour leader by any of his MPs since Ukip squeezed the party’s vote in the Heywood and Middleton byelection, Field accused Miliband of “pissing while Rome burns”.
Field, who was appointed as welfare reform minister in 1997 by Tony Blair, said he had decided to speak out after claiming that Miliband had shown no interest in radical action at a meeting of the parliamentary Labour party (PLP) on Monday night.
The former minister, who helped lead the fight against Militant Tendency on Merseyside in the 1980s, told the Guardian: “This is the third period I have been in the party where I think our position damages our electoral prospects. The first was with the Trots, the second was the era of Benn-foolery and now is the issue of immigration.”
Or this as an amusing view of exchanges in Parliament on immigration (again from The Guardian)
The Ukip Santa has come two months early.
There’s only one thing on the mind of both parties at the moment: next year’s general election. And the race is on to see who can become more Ukip than Ukip. Who do we hate? Immigrants. When do we hate them? Now.
It is normally at least 15 minutes into PMQs before David Cameron’s voice becomes shrill and tetchy, but on Wednesday he was shrieking from the off. Perhaps he had just had a bad morning; perhaps he had choked at the sight of Harriet “No publicity stunts” Harman sitting directly opposite him wearing a “This is what a feminist looks like” T-shirt. To be fair to the prime minister, he wouldn’t be the only one to wonder how soon it will be before the deputy leader of the opposition transmogrifies into Grayson Perry. Or perhaps he had just decided that hysteria was the only reasonable way to deal with immigrants.
“Net migration is down a quarter from its peak under Labour,” he squeaked. “Under Labour, net migration quadrupled and 2.5 million extra people came into our country.”
Ed Miliband paused briefly to channel his inner-Nige, before countering with: “He made a promise of tens of thousands, but it is now 243,000. He published his contract with the British people at the election. On immigration, he said: ‘If we don’t deliver our side of the bargain, vote us out in five years’ time.’ He has broken his promise.” The spectre of 200,000 extra immigrants, each and every one of whom was a murderer, paedophile, rapist or benefits scrounger, was something Cameron couldn’t tolerate.
“It his party who should apologise,” he mouthed, his voice by now at such a high frequency it was only intelligible to a six-year old. “No,” said Miliband cleverly. “It is his party that should apologise.” Then came his killer line. “This government combines callousness with incompetence. They do not show basic humanity, saying that rescuing drowning people is a ‘pull factor’ for immigration, and they are so incompetent that they cannot deliver their basic promises.”
Cameron seemed confused by this. As were the Labour benches. Had it been a call for more immigration, less immigration or just a plea for a more humane approach to drowning immigrants? Was it a sign that a Labour government would give every illegal immigrant in Calais a bathing suit and say that all those who made it to Britain alive would be allowed to stay? After all, they would have at least demonstrated a willingness to work a 23-hour day for less than the minimum wage.
After Miliband sat down, Ian Austin, the Labour MP for Dudley North, resumed where he had been cut off by Keith Vaz in the previous day’s select committee hearing with the mayor of Calais to add his jackboot to immigrants. In a previous life he was parliamentary private secretary to Gordon Brown. No one batted an eyelid. The race to the bottom is on.
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If area has 20 % immigrants, UKIPs target vote is 80%vff said:
Don't agree with that. More likely that the fear of immigration is over hyped. Even in places where there is a high immigrant population, mostly white UK people are in the majority. The above statement regarding Turkeys and Christmas doesn't hold water.smudge7946 said:The map shows done areas have high levels of immigration.
Some genius has worked out that turkey's don't vote for Christmas.
When knowing people from elsewhere they become people and not the caricature strange others that the Daily Mail writes about / UKIP talks about.
If an area has 0% immigrants, UKIPS target vote is 100%.
Turkey's don't vote for Christmas as demonstrated by your map.1 -
But do they know it's Christmas time at all?1
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Trousers, tie, trainers and a carrier bag. Was this picture taken near Selhurst??shine166 said:
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Looks like Paul McCartney :-00
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Nah that's the historic rochester high street. And it does look an awful lot like paul McCartney0
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Funny how 'pale' the areas of Heywood and Middleton, Clacton and Rochester & Strood are on the UKIP support map seing as UKIP got 38.7%, 59.7% and 42.1% respectively of the recent votes in those constituencies. Surely they should all be a deep purple colour?3
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Why? UKIP has sepcifically said that it isn't repatriating anyone. Indeed they have said they want to end open door EU immigration so as to allow more immigration from the Commonwealth. If you are a Bangladeshi in the East End and you want to bring a family member over, you'd have a better chance of doing so under UKIP than the other parties.smudge7946 said:
If area has 20 % immigrants, UKIPs target vote is 80%vff said:
Don't agree with that. More likely that the fear of immigration is over hyped. Even in places where there is a high immigrant population, mostly white UK people are in the majority. The above statement regarding Turkeys and Christmas doesn't hold water.smudge7946 said:The map shows done areas have high levels of immigration.
Some genius has worked out that turkey's don't vote for Christmas.
When knowing people from elsewhere they become people and not the caricature strange others that the Daily Mail writes about / UKIP talks about.
If an area has 0% immigrants, UKIPS target vote is 100%.
Turkey's don't vote for Christmas as demonstrated by your map.
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Not sure this will lose him votes. I would guess a majority of people swayed to UKIP would probably agree with him.colthe3rd said:bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30342953
Well this should go down well.
I have no personal issue with mothers breast feeding in public BTW before anyone jumps down my throat but I do understand if someone's a little embarrassed by it.
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What a nothing story.
He didn't even say he had a problem with public breastfeeding, just that some people might find it a bit awkward, yet the media have completely taken his words out of context.
And even if he did who cares?? People are entitled to have and express an opinion I thought.2 -
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Superb. Carry on winding em up Nige!1
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Also posted in 'Revolution by Russell Brand':
next week's Question Time is definitely a Christmas Special and not one to miss for those who like their politics noisy and vitriolic, albeit in a pantomime format .. Nigel Farage and Russell Brand are two of the panellists .. Not sure if I will watch or not .. the mere sight of Brand might induce me to smash my expensive TV to smithereens in rage and apoplexy .. I cannot stand the charlatan little s**t ((:>)0 -
Yeah I heard old Dimbers say that last night. Finally we might get a good QT for the first time in absolute ages.0
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Question time Fuckwitfest. Bring it on! Wonder who the other three panellists will be?1
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Farage v Brand
One a self centred, opinionated, bigotted, arrogant tosser who believes he knows best, despite coming out with pseudo intellectual tripe which really has no depth or meaning.....
And the leader of UKIP.
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Dennis Skinner, Carole Thatcher and Jimmy Bullard.Bryan_Kynsie said:Question time Fuckwitfest. Bring it on! Wonder who the other three panellists will be?
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Can they get that daft old Aussie bint who runs the Green party as well?
Might even watch it.0 -
Good call. And how about Dianne Abbott and Jeffrey Archer to spice things up?soapy_jones said:Can they get that daft old Aussie bint who runs the Green party as well?
Might even watch it.1 -
and Nick GriffinBryan_Kynsie said:
Good call. And how about Dianne Abbott and Jeffrey Archer to spice things up?soapy_jones said:Can they get that daft old Aussie bint who runs the Green party as well?
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Chuck in George Galloway, Will Self and Dale Winton and you're sorted.1
