Really disappointing reading it that it mirrors a lot you hear at the ground.
Sadly all you hear copping the "for f*** sake" abuse is Fox, Cousins, Harriott. Young local lads coming through the academy finding their way in the professional game.
They may well go on and 'not make it' it at this level, but what a shame it won't be because they simply aren't up to it and not because some irate 'fan' is spitting fury calling you a c***.
So disappointing. Greenie, ya boy and othersm you really need a good look at yourselves if you don't mind me saying
I do mind you saying. Need to have a look at ourselves cos we criticised a footballer lol, as I said earlier if he wasn't an academy graduate no one would care. Such weird behaviour from fully grown men getting very protective over someone they don't know. And it's us that need to look at ourselves? I'm not so sure.
I get paid to do a job. If I under perform I know I will get a bollocking. Why should footballers, young or not, get away with it. I bet Fox earns more than most on here.
He didn't do that much wrong but he was the poorest defender on show for both teams, very costly error at the end but he is not deserving of the over reaction that's about to be fall him
This. He was pretty solid going forward. One weak clearance aftet Coquelin got out muscled again and we were punished for it. I'd be more concerned with Igor not making the most of his chances.
Really disappointing reading it that it mirrors a lot you hear at the ground.
Sadly all you hear copping the "for f*** sake" abuse is Fox, Cousins, Harriott. Young local lads coming through the academy finding their way in the professional game.
They may well go on and 'not make it' it at this level, but what a shame it won't be because they simply aren't up to it and not because some irate 'fan' is spitting fury calling you a c***.
So disappointing. Greenie, ya boy and othersm you really need a good look at yourselves if you don't mind me saying
Bit of an overreaction I would say, the lad's 21 now, he's a fully grown professional in a dog eat dog sport. If he doesn't 'make it' at this level, it's not the fans fault as you seem to be indicating... If every sportsman gave into weakness from the crowd there would be some rather poor boxing fights, football matches, you name it. They're paid handsomely to tackle it all and perform on the pitch.
For me, I'd support potential and young talent if I see it, but I don't see the potential in Morgan Fox, there's a lot better snooping around in our academy but I think Big Bob has thrown Morgan in the deep end and if he pulls him out the non existing confidence, I should imagine, of his will be totally shattered.. Tough decision.
I get paid to do a job. If I under perform I know I will get a bollocking. Why should footballers, young or not, get away with it. I bet Fox earns more than most on here.
In my job I have some unfortunate people who report into me. If a younger, inexperienced team member does something wrong I won't "bollock" them we'll talk about what went wrong and how it can be avoided in the future - that's far better for their development. If an experienced team member who should know better does the same thing then it would be treated differently (see big bobs comments re TBH after the game).
I get paid to do a job. If I under perform I know I will get a bollocking. Why should footballers, young or not, get away with it. I bet Fox earns more than most on here.
You get a bollocking from your manager, the ones who employ you directly. You don't get thousands of strangers shouting swearwords at you or writing personal criticisms on the internet. It's not the same thing at all.
I am pretty sure that in the closed world of the training ground bollockings are a regular feature, and of course people will be saying 'Morgan...why not row z?'. It is accepted footballers make mistakes and can do better, but the criticism of poor play will be in all parts of the pitch. Some poor play leads to missed chances, as well as goals conceded. A bollocking for a mistake amongst the staff is likely to be more even handed, and a mistake/poor play is likely to be recognised as a mistake/poor play anywhere on the pitch, and not a worse mistake because it leads to a goal or a defeat. We recognise that a goalkeeping mistake is likely to have a more serious impact than a missed penalty for example, but the general attitude is that people can muck up from time to time. To single out one action by Morgan Fox as a focus of our pissed offness is harsh in my view. To repeat ad nauseum Wiggins is injured. Morgan has not kicked down the managers door demanding being picked because he is the best left back since Roberto Carlos or Paulo Maldini, he has stepped up, and done his best. It isn't entirely down to the fact that he is one of our own that people feel protective, it is much more to do with the harshness of attempting to scapegoat one player for the failure of the whole team yesterday.
I get paid to do a job. If I under perform I know I will get a bollocking. Why should footballers, young or not, get away with it. I bet Fox earns more than most on here.
In my job I have some unfortunate people who report into me. If a younger, inexperienced team member does something wrong I won't "bollock" them we'll talk about what went wrong and how it can be avoided in the future - that's far better for their development. If an experienced team member who should know better does the same thing then it would be treated differently (see big bobs comments re TBH after the game).
But what if mistakes keep being made, you'd start to lose your patience a bit, no?
You can't have it both ways. We want academy players in the team but younger and inexperienced players will make mistakes or lose concentration regardless of how good they are. Look at how Sterling switched off for Liverpool last week when Palace scored. Be patient.
One or two have called him out Seth but I would like to think the majority who have marked him low in the players marks have taken into account his overall performance. I got to watch him closely from the East Stand in the second half and he really added little going forward dithering on the ball when in possession. Having said that his main job is to defend and yes, I did expect him to clear that ball in the box into row Z which he failed to do and knew it by sinking to his knees and burying his head in his hands. If he plays at Forest I will encourage him but if he makes basic errors I will criticise afterwards and mark accordingly.
We can all see that Fox is not yet as accomplished as Wiggins nor has the same pace and ability in attacking positions - but he can tackle, has a tidy passing game and a good team player in that he covers team mates well.
Which was what he was trying to do when TBH went walkabout yesterday.
IMO Fox is generally doing a decent job at LB - and no doubt Peeters thinks so too. Which is why he's been picking Fox.
I get paid to do a job. If I under perform I know I will get a bollocking. Why should footballers, young or not, get away with it. I bet Fox earns more than most on here.
In my job I have some unfortunate people who report into me. If a younger, inexperienced team member does something wrong I won't "bollock" them we'll talk about what went wrong and how it can be avoided in the future - that's far better for their development. If an experienced team member who should know better does the same thing then it would be treated differently (see big bobs comments re TBH after the game).
But what if mistakes keep being made, you'd start to lose your patience a bit, no?
What is it that keeps on happening ?
Since Fox came into the team this time round (after the Leeds game) he's played three matches. In the Statbank section he's been awarded a 7.25, 6.63 and will probably get 5.5-6 for this game. That isn't my opinion, it isn't yours, it's the collective opinion of people who've been to those games and posted their marks. That doesn't scream that he's completely out of his depth and will never, ever "make it" to me.
I was upset when we lost yesterday, of course I was, and it was a really poor clearance by Fox but there are other, more experienced, player who need to share in the blame too - it seems way to simplistic to put all of the blame on the player who kicked the ball last.
I get paid to do a job. If I under perform I know I will get a bollocking. Why should footballers, young or not, get away with it. I bet Fox earns more than most on here.
In my job I have some unfortunate people who report into me. If a younger, inexperienced team member does something wrong I won't "bollock" them we'll talk about what went wrong and how it can be avoided in the future - that's far better for their development. If an experienced team member who should know better does the same thing then it would be treated differently (see big bobs comments re TBH after the game).
But what if mistakes keep being made, you'd start to lose your patience a bit, no?
What is it that keeps on happening ?
Since Fox came into the team this time round (after the Leeds game) he's played three matches. In the Statbank section he's been awarded a 7.25, 6.63 and will probably get 5.5-6 for this game. That isn't my opinion, it isn't yours, it's the collective opinion of people who've been to those games and posted their marks. That doesn't scream that he's completely out of his depth and will never, ever "make it" to me.
I was upset when we lost yesterday, of course I was, and it was a really poor clearance by Fox but there are other, more experienced, player who need to share in the blame too - it seems way to simplistic to put all of the blame on the player who kicked the ball last.
He had a couple of OK games recently against Reading and Millwall, but he has never stood out for me or shown a particular trait that I feel would add something to the team (ie - Wiggins' pace, Wilson's tenacity etc).
He fills a gap, but has quite an awkward vibe about his play. Doesn't help that he is quite tall and not the quickest.
And no, this isn't a 'scapegoat' attack - as I've never been entirely convinced by him.
And btw, 21 is not 'young' at this level of Football. They're adults who have been playing with adults for 4-5 years.
I get paid to do a job. If I under perform I know I will get a bollocking. Why should footballers, young or not, get away with it. I bet Fox earns more than most on here.
In my job I have some unfortunate people who report into me. If a younger, inexperienced team member does something wrong I won't "bollock" them we'll talk about what went wrong and how it can be avoided in the future - that's far better for their development. If an experienced team member who should know better does the same thing then it would be treated differently (see big bobs comments re TBH after the game).
But what if mistakes keep being made, you'd start to lose your patience a bit, no?
What is it that keeps on happening ?
Since Fox came into the team this time round (after the Leeds game) he's played three matches. In the Statbank section he's been awarded a 7.25, 6.63 and will probably get 5.5-6 for this game. That isn't my opinion, it isn't yours, it's the collective opinion of people who've been to those games and posted their marks. That doesn't scream that he's completely out of his depth and will never, ever "make it" to me.
I was upset when we lost yesterday, of course I was, and it was a really poor clearance by Fox but there are other, more experienced, player who need to share in the blame too - it seems way to simplistic to put all of the blame on the player who kicked the ball last.
Fulham, he was at fault for one of the goals and you can argue he was at fault for 2 in that game, to be fair.
Obviously I will support him at games. I've supported worse players, but if I want to rant about his piss poor performance, such as yesterday, then I will. Forums are about opinions, just cos mines different to yours doesn't mean I have to take a look at myself, doesn't mean I'm a knuckle dragger and doesn't make me any less of a supporter than anyone else.
I get paid to do a job. If I under perform I know I will get a bollocking. Why should footballers, young or not, get away with it. I bet Fox earns more than most on here.
In my job I have some unfortunate people who report into me. If a younger, inexperienced team member does something wrong I won't "bollock" them we'll talk about what went wrong and how it can be avoided in the future - that's far better for their development. If an experienced team member who should know better does the same thing then it would be treated differently (see big bobs comments re TBH after the game).
But what if mistakes keep being made, you'd start to lose your patience a bit, no?
What is it that keeps on happening ?
Since Fox came into the team this time round (after the Leeds game) he's played three matches. In the Statbank section he's been awarded a 7.25, 6.63 and will probably get 5.5-6 for this game. That isn't my opinion, it isn't yours, it's the collective opinion of people who've been to those games and posted their marks. That doesn't scream that he's completely out of his depth and will never, ever "make it" to me.
I was upset when we lost yesterday, of course I was, and it was a really poor clearance by Fox but there are other, more experienced, player who need to share in the blame too - it seems way to simplistic to put all of the blame on the player who kicked the ball last.
Fulham, he was at fault for one of the goals and you can argue he was at fault for 2 in that game, to be fair.
Obviously I will support him at games. I've supported worse players, but if I want to rant about his piss poor performance, such as yesterday, then I will. Forums are about opinions, just cos mines different to yours doesn't mean I have to take a look at myself, doesn't mean I'm a knuckle dragger and doesn't make me any less of a supporter than anyone else.
I get paid to do a job. If I under perform I know I will get a bollocking. Why should footballers, young or not, get away with it. I bet Fox earns more than most on here.
In my job I have some unfortunate people who report into me. If a younger, inexperienced team member does something wrong I won't "bollock" them we'll talk about what went wrong and how it can be avoided in the future - that's far better for their development. If an experienced team member who should know better does the same thing then it would be treated differently (see big bobs comments re TBH after the game).
But what if mistakes keep being made, you'd start to lose your patience a bit, no?
What is it that keeps on happening ?
Since Fox came into the team this time round (after the Leeds game) he's played three matches. In the Statbank section he's been awarded a 7.25, 6.63 and will probably get 5.5-6 for this game. That isn't my opinion, it isn't yours, it's the collective opinion of people who've been to those games and posted their marks. That doesn't scream that he's completely out of his depth and will never, ever "make it" to me.
I was upset when we lost yesterday, of course I was, and it was a really poor clearance by Fox but there are other, more experienced, player who need to share in the blame too - it seems way to simplistic to put all of the blame on the player who kicked the ball last.
Fulham, he was at fault for one of the goals and you can argue he was at fault for 2 in that game, to be fair.
Obviously I will support him at games. I've supported worse players, but if I want to rant about his piss poor performance, such as yesterday, then I will. Forums are about opinions, just cos mines different to yours doesn't mean I have to take a look at myself, doesn't mean I'm a knuckle dragger and doesn't make me any less of a supporter than anyone else.
It wasn't a piss poor performance by him yesterday - just comes across that you've got it in for him. Wiggins has been poor defensively in a few games this season however good he is going forwards - a lot of teams have targetted him. His mistake at the end yesterday must have made your day.
I get paid to do a job. If I under perform I know I will get a bollocking. Why should footballers, young or not, get away with it. I bet Fox earns more than most on here.
In my job I have some unfortunate people who report into me. If a younger, inexperienced team member does something wrong I won't "bollock" them we'll talk about what went wrong and how it can be avoided in the future - that's far better for their development. If an experienced team member who should know better does the same thing then it would be treated differently (see big bobs comments re TBH after the game).
But what if mistakes keep being made, you'd start to lose your patience a bit, no?
What is it that keeps on happening ?
Since Fox came into the team this time round (after the Leeds game) he's played three matches. In the Statbank section he's been awarded a 7.25, 6.63 and will probably get 5.5-6 for this game. That isn't my opinion, it isn't yours, it's the collective opinion of people who've been to those games and posted their marks. That doesn't scream that he's completely out of his depth and will never, ever "make it" to me.
I was upset when we lost yesterday, of course I was, and it was a really poor clearance by Fox but there are other, more experienced, player who need to share in the blame too - it seems way to simplistic to put all of the blame on the player who kicked the ball last.
Fulham, he was at fault for one of the goals and you can argue he was at fault for 2 in that game, to be fair.
Obviously I will support him at games. I've supported worse players, but if I want to rant about his piss poor performance, such as yesterday, then I will. Forums are about opinions, just cos mines different to yours doesn't mean I have to take a look at myself, doesn't mean I'm a knuckle dragger and doesn't make me any less of a supporter than anyone else.
I get paid to do a job. If I under perform I know I will get a bollocking. Why should footballers, young or not, get away with it. I bet Fox earns more than most on here.
In my job I have some unfortunate people who report into me. If a younger, inexperienced team member does something wrong I won't "bollock" them we'll talk about what went wrong and how it can be avoided in the future - that's far better for their development. If an experienced team member who should know better does the same thing then it would be treated differently (see big bobs comments re TBH after the game).
But what if mistakes keep being made, you'd start to lose your patience a bit, no?
What is it that keeps on happening ?
Since Fox came into the team this time round (after the Leeds game) he's played three matches. In the Statbank section he's been awarded a 7.25, 6.63 and will probably get 5.5-6 for this game. That isn't my opinion, it isn't yours, it's the collective opinion of people who've been to those games and posted their marks. That doesn't scream that he's completely out of his depth and will never, ever "make it" to me.
I was upset when we lost yesterday, of course I was, and it was a really poor clearance by Fox but there are other, more experienced, player who need to share in the blame too - it seems way to simplistic to put all of the blame on the player who kicked the ball last.
Fulham, he was at fault for one of the goals and you can argue he was at fault for 2 in that game, to be fair.
Obviously I will support him at games. I've supported worse players, but if I want to rant about his piss poor performance, such as yesterday, then I will. Forums are about opinions, just cos mines different to yours doesn't mean I have to take a look at myself, doesn't mean I'm a knuckle dragger and doesn't make me any less of a supporter than anyone else.
It wasn't a piss poor performance by him yesterday - just comes across that you've got it in for him. Wiggins has been poor defensively in a few games this season however good he is going forwards - a lot of teams have targetted him. His mistake at the end yesterday must have made your day.
It was a piss poor performance. He was our worst player. His mistake yesterday actually ruined my day. Wound me up no end. Hense the anger that I've showed. Wiggins may have been but I don't think he's lost us a game either. Fault lies with Tal Ben Haim also but that doesn't excuse that pathetic attempt at a clearance.
I know, let's not get a new centre forward in January, let's spend all the money on a new Left back, after all I have often read on here, that Wiggins isn't any good either. We all know that the position of LB is the most important one, look at all the brilliant one's we have brought in over the last few seasons. Who needs young academy players when we can bring in the players who have done so well they never seem to play more than half-a-dozen games before being ripped to pieces on these forums.
Morgan Fox, if you're reading this thread, I'd like to apologize for the over the top criticism. However, to put it into perspective, it is only a small number of people, so I wouldn't let it bother you.
You had another decent game. Your clearance wasn't great, but it virtually ricocheted off you and you didn't have time to control the ball. It could and will happen to every defender at some point, so carry on the good work and ignore.
Let's ignore a seasoned pro centre half trying to be messi in the last minute of the game and have a go at a youngster for 1 kick.
TBH was an absolute idiot and does know better. Fox made a mistake and NOW knows better. That's a massive difference.
Remember Simon Francis? Was toilet for us "league two standard" some said and was slated constantly. Now he's probably going to be a premier league player next season and deservedly so. Confidence is a massive part of any sportsmans game. Back our players, especially our younger players ffs.
I get paid to do a job. If I under perform I know I will get a bollocking. Why should footballers, young or not, get away with it. I bet Fox earns more than most on here.
In my job I have some unfortunate people who report into me. If a younger, inexperienced team member does something wrong I won't "bollock" them we'll talk about what went wrong and how it can be avoided in the future - that's far better for their development. If an experienced team member who should know better does the same thing then it would be treated differently (see big bobs comments re TBH after the game).
But what if mistakes keep being made, you'd start to lose your patience a bit, no?
What is it that keeps on happening ?
Since Fox came into the team this time round (after the Leeds game) he's played three matches. In the Statbank section he's been awarded a 7.25, 6.63 and will probably get 5.5-6 for this game. That isn't my opinion, it isn't yours, it's the collective opinion of people who've been to those games and posted their marks. That doesn't scream that he's completely out of his depth and will never, ever "make it" to me.
I was upset when we lost yesterday, of course I was, and it was a really poor clearance by Fox but there are other, more experienced, player who need to share in the blame too - it seems way to simplistic to put all of the blame on the player who kicked the ball last.
Fulham, he was at fault for one of the goals and you can argue he was at fault for 2 in that game, to be fair.
Obviously I will support him at games. I've supported worse players, but if I want to rant about his piss poor performance, such as yesterday, then I will. Forums are about opinions, just cos mines different to yours doesn't mean I have to take a look at myself, doesn't mean I'm a knuckle dragger and doesn't make me any less of a supporter than anyone else.
I get paid to do a job. If I under perform I know I will get a bollocking. Why should footballers, young or not, get away with it. I bet Fox earns more than most on here.
In my job I have some unfortunate people who report into me. If a younger, inexperienced team member does something wrong I won't "bollock" them we'll talk about what went wrong and how it can be avoided in the future - that's far better for their development. If an experienced team member who should know better does the same thing then it would be treated differently (see big bobs comments re TBH after the game).
But what if mistakes keep being made, you'd start to lose your patience a bit, no?
What is it that keeps on happening ?
Since Fox came into the team this time round (after the Leeds game) he's played three matches. In the Statbank section he's been awarded a 7.25, 6.63 and will probably get 5.5-6 for this game. That isn't my opinion, it isn't yours, it's the collective opinion of people who've been to those games and posted their marks. That doesn't scream that he's completely out of his depth and will never, ever "make it" to me.
I was upset when we lost yesterday, of course I was, and it was a really poor clearance by Fox but there are other, more experienced, player who need to share in the blame too - it seems way to simplistic to put all of the blame on the player who kicked the ball last.
Fulham, he was at fault for one of the goals and you can argue he was at fault for 2 in that game, to be fair.
Obviously I will support him at games. I've supported worse players, but if I want to rant about his piss poor performance, such as yesterday, then I will. Forums are about opinions, just cos mines different to yours doesn't mean I have to take a look at myself, doesn't mean I'm a knuckle dragger and doesn't make me any less of a supporter than anyone else.
It wasn't a piss poor performance by him yesterday - just comes across that you've got it in for him. Wiggins has been poor defensively in a few games this season however good he is going forwards - a lot of teams have targetted him. His mistake at the end yesterday must have made your day.
It was a piss poor performance. He was our worst player. His mistake yesterday actually ruined my day. Wound me up no end. Hense the anger that I've showed. Wiggins may have been but I don't think he's lost us a game either. Fault lies with Tal Ben Haim also but that doesn't excuse that pathetic attempt at a clearance.
Were you as angry when Gudmonsson lost us the game at Bournemouth? Although he didn't. It's a team game. A loss isn't down to a single player. Bikey made a couple of howlers on Saturday but got away with it. Ben Haim made a big mistake but seems to have got away with it to an extent, except from Bob. Fox isn't the best LB we have ever had but then again he's far from the worst. Will he make it at this level? I have my doubts. But he doesn't deserve some of the over the top comments on this thread.
I get paid to do a job. If I under perform I know I will get a bollocking. Why should footballers, young or not, get away with it. I bet Fox earns more than most on here.
In my job I have some unfortunate people who report into me. If a younger, inexperienced team member does something wrong I won't "bollock" them we'll talk about what went wrong and how it can be avoided in the future - that's far better for their development. If an experienced team member who should know better does the same thing then it would be treated differently (see big bobs comments re TBH after the game).
But what if mistakes keep being made, you'd start to lose your patience a bit, no?
What is it that keeps on happening ?
Since Fox came into the team this time round (after the Leeds game) he's played three matches. In the Statbank section he's been awarded a 7.25, 6.63 and will probably get 5.5-6 for this game. That isn't my opinion, it isn't yours, it's the collective opinion of people who've been to those games and posted their marks. That doesn't scream that he's completely out of his depth and will never, ever "make it" to me.
I was upset when we lost yesterday, of course I was, and it was a really poor clearance by Fox but there are other, more experienced, player who need to share in the blame too - it seems way to simplistic to put all of the blame on the player who kicked the ball last.
Fulham, he was at fault for one of the goals and you can argue he was at fault for 2 in that game, to be fair.
Obviously I will support him at games. I've supported worse players, but if I want to rant about his piss poor performance, such as yesterday, then I will. Forums are about opinions, just cos mines different to yours doesn't mean I have to take a look at myself, doesn't mean I'm a knuckle dragger and doesn't make me any less of a supporter than anyone else.
I get paid to do a job. If I under perform I know I will get a bollocking. Why should footballers, young or not, get away with it. I bet Fox earns more than most on here.
In my job I have some unfortunate people who report into me. If a younger, inexperienced team member does something wrong I won't "bollock" them we'll talk about what went wrong and how it can be avoided in the future - that's far better for their development. If an experienced team member who should know better does the same thing then it would be treated differently (see big bobs comments re TBH after the game).
But what if mistakes keep being made, you'd start to lose your patience a bit, no?
What is it that keeps on happening ?
Since Fox came into the team this time round (after the Leeds game) he's played three matches. In the Statbank section he's been awarded a 7.25, 6.63 and will probably get 5.5-6 for this game. That isn't my opinion, it isn't yours, it's the collective opinion of people who've been to those games and posted their marks. That doesn't scream that he's completely out of his depth and will never, ever "make it" to me.
I was upset when we lost yesterday, of course I was, and it was a really poor clearance by Fox but there are other, more experienced, player who need to share in the blame too - it seems way to simplistic to put all of the blame on the player who kicked the ball last.
Fulham, he was at fault for one of the goals and you can argue he was at fault for 2 in that game, to be fair.
Obviously I will support him at games. I've supported worse players, but if I want to rant about his piss poor performance, such as yesterday, then I will. Forums are about opinions, just cos mines different to yours doesn't mean I have to take a look at myself, doesn't mean I'm a knuckle dragger and doesn't make me any less of a supporter than anyone else.
It wasn't a piss poor performance by him yesterday - just comes across that you've got it in for him. Wiggins has been poor defensively in a few games this season however good he is going forwards - a lot of teams have targetted him. His mistake at the end yesterday must have made your day.
It was a piss poor performance. He was our worst player. His mistake yesterday actually ruined my day. Wound me up no end. Hense the anger that I've showed. Wiggins may have been but I don't think he's lost us a game either. Fault lies with Tal Ben Haim also but that doesn't excuse that pathetic attempt at a clearance.
Morgan Fox, if you're reading this thread, I'd like to apologize for the over the top criticism. However, to put it into perspective, it is only a small number of people, so I wouldn't let it bother you.
You had another decent game. Your clearance wasn't great, but it virtually ricocheted off you and you didn't have time to control the ball. It could and will happen to every defender at some point, so carry on the good work and ignore.
Agree with this. It's also fair to say a couple of people have embarrassed themselves on here. We all make mistakes.
Have to say I feel Fox is getting a lot of 'protection' on here because he came through the academy. If he was a loan signing I'm convinced some of you wouldn't be so lenient.
I saw him make his debut (I think) at Sheff Weds in the cup last year and was raving about him. He had a really solid game and didn't look out of place in the starting eleven. This season he hasn't lived up to that hype. Although not writing him off I do feel he is a weakness in our team at the moment. The question is do you drop him? For me it's a no. I'd give him a few more games to see if there's any improvement. Sometimes it's a question or time and confidence and at the moment I think he's running out of both.
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For me, I'd support potential and young talent if I see it, but I don't see the potential in Morgan Fox, there's a lot better snooping around in our academy but I think Big Bob has thrown Morgan in the deep end and if he pulls him out the non existing confidence, I should imagine, of his will be totally shattered.. Tough decision.
The above observation does not mean that I agree with the criticism Fox has received on this thread by the way.
We recognise that a goalkeeping mistake is likely to have a more serious impact than a missed penalty for example, but the general attitude is that people can muck up from time to time.
To single out one action by Morgan Fox as a focus of our pissed offness is harsh in my view. To repeat ad nauseum Wiggins is injured. Morgan has not kicked down the managers door demanding being picked because he is the best left back since Roberto Carlos or Paulo Maldini, he has stepped up, and done his best.
It isn't entirely down to the fact that he is one of our own that people feel protective, it is much more to do with the harshness of attempting to scapegoat one player for the failure of the whole team yesterday.
We can all see that Fox is not yet as accomplished as Wiggins nor has the same pace and ability in attacking positions - but he can tackle, has a tidy passing game and a good team player in that he covers team mates well.
Which was what he was trying to do when TBH went walkabout yesterday.
IMO Fox is generally doing a decent job at LB - and no doubt Peeters thinks so too.
Which is why he's been picking Fox.
Since Fox came into the team this time round (after the Leeds game) he's played three matches. In the Statbank section he's been awarded a 7.25, 6.63 and will probably get 5.5-6 for this game. That isn't my opinion, it isn't yours, it's the collective opinion of people who've been to those games and posted their marks. That doesn't scream that he's completely out of his depth and will never, ever "make it" to me.
I was upset when we lost yesterday, of course I was, and it was a really poor clearance by Fox but there are other, more experienced, player who need to share in the blame too - it seems way to simplistic to put all of the blame on the player who kicked the ball last.
You're not on Into The Valley now.
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He fills a gap, but has quite an awkward vibe about his play. Doesn't help that he is quite tall and not the quickest.
And no, this isn't a 'scapegoat' attack - as I've never been entirely convinced by him.
And btw, 21 is not 'young' at this level of Football. They're adults who have been playing with adults for 4-5 years.
Obviously I will support him at games. I've supported worse players, but if I want to rant about his piss poor performance, such as yesterday, then I will. Forums are about opinions, just cos mines different to yours doesn't mean I have to take a look at myself, doesn't mean I'm a knuckle dragger and doesn't make me any less of a supporter than anyone else.
His mistake at the end yesterday must have made your day.
However, to put it into perspective, it is only a small number of people, so I wouldn't let it bother you.
You had another decent game. Your clearance wasn't great, but it virtually ricocheted off you and you didn't have time to control the ball. It could and will happen to every defender at some point, so carry on the good work and ignore.
TBH was an absolute idiot and does know better. Fox made a mistake and NOW knows better. That's a massive difference.
Remember Simon Francis? Was toilet for us "league two standard" some said and was slated constantly. Now he's probably going to be a premier league player next season and deservedly so. Confidence is a massive part of any sportsmans game. Back our players, especially our younger players ffs.
I saw him make his debut (I think) at Sheff Weds in the cup last year and was raving about him. He had a really solid game and didn't look out of place in the starting eleven. This season he hasn't lived up to that hype. Although not writing him off I do feel he is a weakness in our team at the moment. The question is do you drop him? For me it's a no. I'd give him a few more games to see if there's any improvement. Sometimes it's a question or time and confidence and at the moment I think he's running out of both.