What gets me is when parents are happy to see their children take a seat when an adult is left standing ( on the underground). They should either stand or sit on their parents lap
Hold on one second.
Why should a child who is probably more tired after a day walking around London than a healthy adult give up there seat for said healthy adult? W
Why should they have to sit on their parents lap? Their parent will have paid for their space on the train so is just as due a seat as the next person. Maybe the Parent could stand next to the seat upon which the child sits?
If it were a teen or a healthy adult taking up a seat it's fair enough they should stand and offer their place to a small child, elderly, pregnant or infirm.
(No fatties I'm not saying you get to keep a seat either over those listed somehow I count you as a healthy adult... a food baby doesn't make you pregnant.)
My mother would have always put me on her lap, it is no hardship, and it is good manners. You say "why should they" I say "why not", Daz?
Back to the overall topic we were in the UK last week, and travelled extensively on public transport - train, tram, tube and bus and for the most part people were courteous and polite. A couple of numpties on full trains had their "stuff" spread out over two seats, so the missus and I took great pleasure in asking them to move it so we could sit down, and one woman had her toddler sitting down when older people were standing, but overall people were decent. And shop assistants were incredibly helpful and polite compared with here in Portugal.
I only give up my seat on public transport to a female if she is
- With a young child
- Elderly
- Wearing a "Baby on Board" badge. Don't want a slap of a plump lady if she thinks I'm only offering her the seat cause she's Pregnant not that she has a muffin top instead.
You would be surprised (well maybe not going by this thread ) how many people ignore the baby on board badges and shrink down behind their paper to avoid giving up their seat.
It's odd, my son gets recognition from adults for his politeness and manners, the reason I find it odd is because surely that should be normal behavior? When has saying please and thank you been something that's celebrated so regularly? As parents we're always giving him praise for it but to see the surprise on other peoples faces is the odd part, and a bit sad that it doesn't appear to be the norm.
You would be surprised (well maybe not going by this thread ) how many people ignore the baby on board badges and shrink down behind their paper to avoid giving up their seat.
it's probably because they think being that you're a man it's all a bit weird....
You would be surprised (well maybe not going by this thread ) how many people ignore the baby on board badges and shrink down behind their paper to avoid giving up their seat.
it's probably because they think being that you're a man it's all a bit weird....
So despite the dress and the badge you can still tell? Bollox!
What gets me is when parents are happy to see their children take a seat when an adult is left standing ( on the underground). They should either stand or sit on their parents lap
Hold on one second.
Why should a child who is probably more tired after a day walking around London than a healthy adult give up there seat for said healthy adult? W
Why should they have to sit on their parents lap? Their parent will have paid for their space on the train so is just as due a seat as the next person. Maybe the Parent could stand next to the seat upon which the child sits?
If it were a teen or a healthy adult taking up a seat it's fair enough they should stand and offer their place to a small child, elderly, pregnant or infirm.
(No fatties I'm not saying you get to keep a seat either over those listed somehow I count you as a healthy adult... a food baby doesn't make you pregnant.)
Children, old people and pregnant women should be banned from public transport between the hours of 6-10am and 4-7pm. Same as old people should be banned outright from supermarkets after 7pm and at weekends
You would be surprised (well maybe not going by this thread ) how many people ignore the baby on board badges and shrink down behind their paper to avoid giving up their seat.
it's probably because they think being that you're a man it's all a bit weird....
So despite the dress and the badge you can still tell? Bollox!
You would be surprised (well maybe not going by this thread ) how many people ignore the baby on board badges and shrink down behind their paper to avoid giving up their seat.
it's probably because they think being that you're a man it's all a bit weird....
So despite the dress and the badge you can still tell? Bollox!
You need to work on that stuble see
You know when a Thread is coming to the end of its natural life when the banter starts!
As a working bloke (physical grafter) it never failed to amaze me that all the suits and pen pushers would always get emselves a seat on the rattler, even though they'd be sitting down all day at work (or in the boozer in @cafcdave123 case) while the proper workers had to stand by the doors.
As a working bloke (physical grafter) it never failed to amaze me that all the suits and pen pushers would always get emselves a seat on the rattler, even though they'd be sitting down all day at work (or in the boozer in @cafcdave123 case) while the proper workers had to stand by the doors.
As a working bloke (physical grafter) it never failed to amaze me that all the suits and pen pushers would always get emselves a seat on the rattler, even though they'd be sitting down all day at work (or in the boozer in @cafcdave123 case) while the proper workers had to stand by the doors.
My mum taught me what little manners I have, not the school.
Should come from both sources - parents & school.
Used to be the schools backed up the parents, now there's only a minority of parents who do anything to be backed up.
Remember our headmaster having a go at us in assembly after a lady had complained to the school that a boy had pushed in front of her at the bus queue. A stain on the schools' reputation, imagine how ridiculous that would sound today.
I must be in the minority then. Manners instilled in my two before they could walk - please and thank yous costs nothing - and has continued as they've grown (13 & 11). Admittedly I dont know what they are like without the presence of an adult but have no reason to think they'd slip
Too many parents don't like to hear the truth that their 'little angel' is more a little runt (or something that sounds like that) and won't back the school/teachers up or accept that they may have to approach things differently to encourage better behaviour
Manners are the minimum to be instilled in kids today
Too many parents don't like to hear the truth that their 'little angel' is more a little runt (or something that sounds like that) and won't back the school/teachers up or accept that they may have to approach things differently to encourage better behaviour
Manners are the minimum to be instilled in kids today
Too many parents don't like to hear the truth that their 'little angel' is more a little runt (or something that sounds like that) and won't back the school/teachers up or accept that they may have to approach things differently to encourage better behaviour
Manners are the minimum to be instilled in kids today
what is a skittle runt?
probably a young child employed in a victorian bowling alley ...luxury compared to going up chimneys and working in tpit
Maybe the role of schools is to be an example of good manners and behaviour, and intolerant of the bad, but not to actually teach them. It is firmly down to parents to teach good manners, and judging by some effing and jeffing selfish and aggressive adults I think god help their kids. Teachers have plenty to do without being responsible for teaching common decency.
Would be no harm in trying, though - or would teaching manners infringe little Johnnie's Human Rights and end up in the European Court?
I agree with what you say, Seth but we must never give up and such things can be changed at core level - if there is a will to do so.
Schools teach manners, its a shame some parents don't support them.
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Back to the overall topic we were in the UK last week, and travelled extensively on public transport - train, tram, tube and bus and for the most part people were courteous and polite. A couple of numpties on full trains had their "stuff" spread out over two seats, so the missus and I took great pleasure in asking them to move it so we could sit down, and one woman had her toddler sitting down when older people were standing, but overall people were decent. And shop assistants were incredibly helpful and polite compared with here in Portugal.
You would be surprised (well maybe not going by this thread ) how many people ignore the baby on board badges and shrink down behind their paper to avoid giving up their seat.
This should p*ss a few people off
However
Giving up my seat on the tube for a pregnant lady is a tough one
I've decided it's better to see a pregnant girl standing up rather than a fat girl sitting down crying
; )
Remember our headmaster having a go at us in assembly after a lady had complained to the school that a boy had pushed in front of her at the bus queue. A stain on the schools' reputation, imagine how ridiculous that would sound today.
Manners are the minimum to be instilled in kids today