If theres a buyer for Wiggins, I'm all for getting another one in and then letting him go. But surely at this moment in time, it would be better to concentrate on getting a RB, 2 CBs, a CM and a couple of wingers (maybe just the one if Henry comes in). Just saying wouldn't be a huge concern if we go into the season with Wiggins and Fox.
Yes, but if you can see an opportunity to improve the squad, in whatever position, then surely you take it ?
yeah fair point and I agree. However, say RD limits Luzon to a certain number of players and wages etc. We then sign this LB and continue recruiting, and Luzon is told he can sign a new player when Wiggins is sold. We could then end up with 3 LB's and one RB, who will not be able to play every game. Certainly, if we can offload Wiggins or there is no pressure to sell to be able to sign the other necessities then I have no issue with it all .
If theres a buyer for Wiggins, I'm all for getting another one in and then letting him go. But surely at this moment in time, it would be better to concentrate on getting a RB, 2 CBs, a CM and a couple of wingers (maybe just the one if Henry comes in). Just saying wouldn't be a huge concern if we go into the season with Wiggins and Fox.
Yes, but if you can see an opportunity to improve the squad, in whatever position, then surely you take it ?
Don't be ridiculous, you HAVE to rebuild in order of importance at the risk of missing out on other targets. That is why Henry hasn't signed yet because GL needs a defender before he signs a midfielder
Ridiculous premise and you really have to hope you aren't advising Roland.
El internacional marroquí Bergdich apura sus últimas horas en Valladolid, ya que el lunes se desplazará a Inglaterra junto a su representante para conocer los términos de su contrato con el Charlton Athletic y así poder jugar en la segunda división inglesa. Posteriormente regresará a Valladolid para trasladar la oferta a Carlos Suárez y valorar su salida, se rumorea que el Charlton Athletic podría ofrecer cerca de 300.000 euros para que Bergdich cambie de club, a parte de mantener la ficha al lateral izquierdo. La semana que viene será clave para la salida del marroquí del Real Valladolid.
If someone wants to translate it . But looks like the deal is for €300k
The Moroccan international Bergdich rushes their last hours in Valladolid, because Monday will travel to England with his representative to the terms of his contract with Charlton Athletic and be able to play in the English second division. Later he returned to Valladolid to transfer the offer to Carlos Suarez and assess their departure, Charlton Athletic rumored that could provide nearly 300,000 euros for Bergdich change of club, in addition to keep tab on the left side. Next week will be key to exit the Moroccan Real Valladolid.
If theres a buyer for Wiggins, I'm all for getting another one in and then letting him go. But surely at this moment in time, it would be better to concentrate on getting a RB, 2 CBs, a CM and a couple of wingers (maybe just the one if Henry comes in). Just saying wouldn't be a huge concern if we go into the season with Wiggins and Fox.
Yes, but if you can see an opportunity to improve the squad, in whatever position, then surely you take it ?
Don't be ridiculous, you HAVE to rebuild in order of importance at the risk of missing out on other targets. That is why Henry hasn't signed yet because GL needs a defender before he signs a midfielder
Are you serious ?
So you're saying if our priority is a centre half & we were offered the opportunity to sign Tony Watt and sell Simon Church, you wouldn't do the deal ?
Yes of course you need to prioritise, but you can't dismiss other opportunities, if they present themself.
By that, I mean an opportunity, to buy a better left back & sell Wiggins, at preferable fees.
I cant believe after the posturing on this site abour Ched Evans that we are seeing jokes about violence against women and domestic violence. Fucking sickening.
The Moroccan international Bergdich rushes their last hours in Valladolid, because Monday will travel to England with his representative to the terms of his contract with Charlton Athletic and be able to play in the English second division. Later he returned to Valladolid to transfer the offer to Carlos Suarez and assess their departure, Charlton Athletic rumored that could provide nearly 300,000 euros for Bergdich change of club, in addition to keep tab on the left side. Next week will be key to exit the Moroccan Real Valladolid.
Surely I'm not the only one that doesn't want to sign a wife beater?
It's odd isn't it. Don't want to touch this fella with a barge pole if this stuff about him battering his missus is proven - the initial reports were from April and covered his arrest but it doesn't seem like there's anything which shows how the story concludes - is it possible it hasn't even been through the courts yet ?
rel="cafcfan1990">If theres a buyer for Wiggins, I'm all for getting another one in and then letting him go. But surely at this moment in time, it would be better to concentrate on getting a RB, 2 CBs, a CM and a couple of wingers (maybe just the one if Henry comes in). Just saying wouldn't be a huge concern if we go into the season with Wiggins and Fox.
It would. Neither are good promotion pushing championship defenders based on last season. We need a 1st team left back more than the RB you suggest bearing in mind although I agree with you that we need RB cover, we do atleast have one RB at the club who is good enough to be in a top 6 champ team in Solly.
Surely I'm not the only one that doesn't want to sign a wife beater?
It's odd isn't it. Don't want to touch this fella with a barge pole if this stuff about him battering his missus is proven - the initial reports were from April and covered his arrest but it doesn't seem like there's anything which shows how the story concludes - is it possible it hasn't even been through the courts yet ?
Ww certainly shouldnt sign him until this is resolved. The strong community / family focus of the club has always made me proud to support Charlton. This would be pissing on our history.
Surely I'm not the only one that doesn't want to sign a wife beater?
It's odd isn't it. Don't want to touch this fella with a barge pole if this stuff about him battering his missus is proven - the initial reports were from April and covered his arrest but it doesn't seem like there's anything which shows how the story concludes - is it possible it hasn't even been through the courts yet ?
Every chance or quite likely charges were dropped.
A lot of very judgemental attitudes on here based on very little detail around the story. Not saying violence towards women is ever defensible, but it could easily have been something like them having a row and he shoved her, perhaps harder than he intended, she fell over and banged her arm and was taken to hospital as a precaution and had him arrested because she was still in a rage with him. He may have repeatedly cracked her round the head with a baseball bat. We don't know but there is quite a big difference between the two but both might be described as assault at the time of arrest, I'm not sure they would both qualify him for 'scum' status or make him a 'wife batterer' though.
Unless it goes to trial and he's convicted then we don't really have a judgement to make. If he were to be found guilty I wouldn't want him near the Club. If charges have not been pursued then he's not guilty and we give him the benefit of the doubt.
And yes, I AM judgemental about this stuff. We have a predisposition which has only recently started to change that "domestics" are not important. And for a very long time all sorts of violence has been carried out, mostly against women and children as a result. Sorry to preach, but y'know...
Accused of having abused his wife, the Moroccan international defender Genoa, Zakaria Bergdich, denied. "After all that we read yesterday! My wife and I are very well ... # # Rumor lie, "wrote the player on loan from Real Valladolid to the Italian club said on their Twitter account . The 26 year old Moroccan international, who was accused of beating his wife (emergency admitted to the Galliera Hospital in Genoa), according LaGazzetta , has even posted a picture of her smiling torque while to refute this information. According to the daily itialien, Bergdich is believed to have beaten his wife after a heated argument. It would be charged with abuse and serious injuries against his wife, the newspaper said. The victim suffered trauma and even with a total incapacity to work 15 days.
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Certainly, if we can offload Wiggins or there is no pressure to sell to be able to sign the other necessities then I have no issue with it all .
El internacional marroquí Bergdich apura sus últimas horas en Valladolid, ya que el lunes se desplazará a Inglaterra junto a su representante para conocer los términos de su contrato con el Charlton Athletic y así poder jugar en la segunda división inglesa. Posteriormente regresará a Valladolid para trasladar la oferta a Carlos Suárez y valorar su salida, se rumorea que el Charlton Athletic podría ofrecer cerca de 300.000 euros para que Bergdich cambie de club, a parte de mantener la ficha al lateral izquierdo. La semana que viene será clave para la salida del marroquí del Real Valladolid.
If someone wants to translate it . But looks like the deal is for €300k
Hahahah of course it's not
Just saying wouldn't be a huge concern if we go into the season with Wiggins and Fox.
It would. Neither are good promotion pushing championship defenders based on last season. We need a 1st team left back more than the RB you suggest bearing in mind although I agree with you that we need RB cover, we do atleast have one RB at the club who is good enough to be in a top 6 champ team in Solly.
A lot of very judgemental attitudes on here based on very little detail around the story. Not saying violence towards women is ever defensible, but it could easily have been something like them having a row and he shoved her, perhaps harder than he intended, she fell over and banged her arm and was taken to hospital as a precaution and had him arrested because she was still in a rage with him. He may have repeatedly cracked her round the head with a baseball bat. We don't know but there is quite a big difference between the two but both might be described as assault at the time of arrest, I'm not sure they would both qualify him for 'scum' status or make him a 'wife batterer' though.
The 26 year old Moroccan international, who was accused of beating his wife (emergency admitted to the Galliera Hospital in Genoa), according LaGazzetta , has even posted a picture of her smiling torque while to refute this information.
According to the daily itialien, Bergdich is believed to have beaten his wife after a heated argument. It would be charged with abuse and serious injuries against his wife, the newspaper said. The victim suffered trauma and even with a total incapacity to work 15 days.
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