And yes, I AM judgemental about this stuff. We have a predisposition which has only recently started to change that "domestics" are not important. And for a very long time all sorts of violence has been carried out, mostly against women and children as a result. Sorry to preach, but y'know...
We have a predisposition? I don't, thank you for asking
I'm sure all out players have something in there past that would turn you against them, they are payed for what they do on the pitch not there personal life, how many supporters can say they are whiter than white and never made a mistake in their life, the valley would be an empty place on and off the pitch if that was the case
Anyone remember a certain Sunday newspaper running a story that a current Charlton player at the time was alleged to have attacked his wife in the late 1980's. Story published 2/4/1989. The day of the clean up at the Valley.
Anyone remember a certain Sunday newspaper running a story that a current Charlton player at the time was alleged to have attacked his wife in the late 1980's. Story published 2/4/1989. The day of the clean up at the Valley.
Zakarya Bergdich Botte his partner: denounced Bergdich
The tweet with his wife posted the defender of Genoa Bergdich, denounced last week by the same partner for injuries and ill-treatment Bergdich, tweets and photos with his partner: "We are very well»
Genoa - The truth, for the Prosecution, it's all in a movie. A video-complaint, registered by the squad just hours after the events, that could be the decisive factor for the prosecution to Zakarya Bergdich, the player of 26 years of Genoa (on loan from Real Valladolid) and Moroccan International finished in trouble for assaulting and beating his partner after a trivial dispute in family matters of jealousy. The attack had led to the discovery of harassment, abuse and rape that occurred in previous months that the woman had always been silent. In recent days, the deputy prosecutor Paola Crispo ordered the acquisition of that movie, by practice, in cases of sexual or domestic violence is made by agents to crystallize the facts.
Based on this video, which lasts all of ten minutes, the prosecutor entered the footballer of Genoa under investigation for crimes of abuse and sexual violence. This despite the wife's defender in recent days has made to the police station first and then the remission of Attorney lawsuit asking to cancel everything. This reverse, however, does not remove some charges that, from the point of view of the Criminal Code, are prosecuted ex officio. How, exactly, sexual violence and ill-treatment. For this the player is in serious danger of ending up in the dock. The magistrate is considering in the coming days to question both the player rossoblù that his own partner to further narrow what happened and decide the future of this judicial criminal proceedings.
Yeah, I am here from the AA thread (Cheers @smiffyboy ), but I gotta say @Bedsaddick vrs A N Other is getting a little tiresome now on every alert thrown ouy way. ; )
Zakarya Bergdich Botte his partner: denounced Bergdich
The tweet with his wife posted the defender of Genoa Bergdich, denounced last week by the same partner for injuries and ill-treatment Bergdich, tweets and photos with his partner: "We are very well»
Genoa - The truth, for the Prosecution, it's all in a movie. A video-complaint, registered by the squad just hours after the events, that could be the decisive factor for the prosecution to Zakarya Bergdich, the player of 26 years of Genoa (on loan from Real Valladolid) and Moroccan International finished in trouble for assaulting and beating his partner after a trivial dispute in family matters of jealousy. The attack had led to the discovery of harassment, abuse and rape that occurred in previous months that the woman had always been silent. In recent days, the deputy prosecutor Paola Crispo ordered the acquisition of that movie, by practice, in cases of sexual or domestic violence is made by agents to crystallize the facts.
Based on this video, which lasts all of ten minutes, the prosecutor entered the footballer of Genoa under investigation for crimes of abuse and sexual violence. This despite the wife's defender in recent days has made to the police station first and then the remission of Attorney lawsuit asking to cancel everything. This reverse, however, does not remove some charges that, from the point of view of the Criminal Code, are prosecuted ex officio. How, exactly, sexual violence and ill-treatment. For this the player is in serious danger of ending up in the dock. The magistrate is considering in the coming days to question both the player rossoblù that his own partner to further narrow what happened and decide the future of this judicial criminal proceedings.
Bloody hell - very serious stuff. That article is six weeks old, I wonder if there's anything more recent as it says a decision on prosecution would be made in days. I'm assuming all the charges have been dropped if we're even contemplating signing him (which we might not even be).
Holier than thou! Their is a Metallica song in here somewhere. Really tiresome some of the shit written in this thread regarding players who haven't even signed.
This has to be a wind up... Why would you take someone like this into your squad. Whether he did it or not he'd be a divisive figure in the team wouldn't he?
Wait, wasnt Cousins accused of something pretty serious a couple of years ago? Being accused and being convicted are two very different things, let's hold our horses on this one for now
This has to be a wind up... Why would you take someone like this into your squad. Whether he did it or not he'd be a divisive figure in the team wouldn't he?
If he didn't do it he would be divisive based on what?
I'm sure all out players have something in there past that would turn you against them, they are payed for what they do on the pitch not there personal life, how many supporters can say they are whiter than white and never made a mistake in their life, the valley would be an empty place on and off the pitch if that was the case
Maybe, but you deal at the time in the best way if you have someone on your books as an employee / friend accused of this sort of thing. Going after someone with this hanging over their head is a completely different matter.
There are a hundred thousand footballers out there to potentially sign. I don't want us actively going after someone with that hanging over them ( if still an open case) when the amount of other choice means we don't have to.
Nothing to do with family club stuff, just straight forward right / wrong stuff.
I've deleted my remarks as I realise that they were a bit glib, this is because I'm fed up,with this thread being used for things other than rumours and I want to read proper rumours not the rest of the stuff that's on here.
have you lot never heard of innocent until proved guilty you really are a sanctamonious bunch of ..........
But surely we should let the case run its course before spending money on a player who could be banged up a couple of weeks later ? If found innocent and/or the charges are dropped then crack on.
And yes, I AM judgemental about this stuff. We have a predisposition which has only recently started to change that "domestics" are not important. And for a very long time all sorts of violence has been carried out, mostly against women and children as a result. Sorry to preach, but y'know...
We have a predisposition? I don't, thank you for asking
No Im sure you dont. Society has had a tendency to endorse, then ignore domestic violence. Apologies if you took this as directed against you personally, although not sure why you would.
I'm sure all out players have something in there past that would turn you against them, they are payed for what they do on the pitch not there personal life, how many supporters can say they are whiter than white and never made a mistake in their life, the valley would be an empty place on and off the pitch if that was the case
Maybe, but you deal at the time in the best way if you have someone on your books as an employee / friend accused of this sort of thing. Going after someone with this hanging over their head is a completely different matter.
There are a hundred thousand footballers out there to potentially sign. I don't want us actively going after someone with that hanging over them ( if still an open case) when the amount of other choice means we don't have to.
Nothing to do with family club stuff, just straight forward right / wrong stuff.
AFKA I was on the end of domestic abuse from a women for 13 years to the point where she even stabbed me in the back with a kitchen knife, I have scars all over my body caused by her, and I'm 6ft 3 and 16st I could of killed her at any point but never, I stuck around for my children for many years until enough was enough but not once did it affect her career and what she was paid to do, which is my point in all this, I'm not trying to argue or cause a reaction just stating what I believe is the case.
As evidenced by how quickly the jokes about slapping bitches and hitting women for not coming up with food quickly enough appeared on this forum. Only followed by any suggestion that we might want to raise concern about the issues involved.
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Getting boring now.
**** I just see you had edited your post..
Gone from calling him a "prize one" to now trying to make it all seem so innocent.. Unbelievable.
Thomas Fregatti, 5 June 2015
Zakarya Bergdich Botte his partner: denounced Bergdich
The tweet with his wife posted the defender of Genoa Bergdich, denounced last week by the same partner for injuries and ill-treatment Bergdich, tweets and photos with his partner: "We are very well»
Genoa - The truth, for the Prosecution, it's all in a movie. A video-complaint, registered by the squad just hours after the events, that could be the decisive factor for the prosecution to Zakarya Bergdich, the player of 26 years of Genoa (on loan from Real Valladolid) and Moroccan International finished in trouble for assaulting and beating his partner after a trivial dispute in family matters of jealousy. The attack had led to the discovery of harassment, abuse and rape that occurred in previous months that the woman had always been silent. In recent days, the deputy prosecutor Paola Crispo ordered the acquisition of that movie, by practice, in cases of sexual or domestic violence is made by agents to crystallize the facts.
Based on this video, which lasts all of ten minutes, the prosecutor entered the footballer of Genoa under investigation for crimes of abuse and sexual violence. This despite the wife's defender in recent days has made to the police station first and then the remission of Attorney lawsuit asking to cancel everything. This reverse, however, does not remove some charges that, from the point of view of the Criminal Code, are prosecuted ex officio. How, exactly, sexual violence and ill-treatment. For this the player is in serious danger of ending up in the dock. The magistrate is considering in the coming days to question both the player rossoblù that his own partner to further narrow what happened and decide the future of this judicial criminal proceedings.
ilsecoloxix.it/p/sport/2015/06/05/ARWXNigE-violenze_accusa_bergdich.shtml
Note: this is from a website of La Stampa newspaper.
There are a hundred thousand footballers out there to potentially sign. I don't want us actively going after someone with that hanging over them ( if still an open case) when the amount of other choice means we don't have to.
Nothing to do with family club stuff, just straight forward right / wrong stuff.