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has chris solly gone backwards ?

his passing,distribution and all round play this season has been very poor....
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  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    I don't agree he has been poor in the slightest. I would say he has been a little below the standard of previous years (maybe because of the occasional resting and the chopping and changing in his back 4 partners) but still more often than not one of our better performers.
  • SEFREE
    SEFREE Posts: 103
    to be fair to him he had set a fairly high bar with previous seasons performances.

    lots of change of colleagues around him and like a few others, playing games where they perhaps should have been rested.

    love to see him get forward and looking forward to a screaming 30 yarder at some point. its gonna happen.

  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    SEFREE said:

    to be fair to him he had set a fairly high bar with previous seasons performances.

    lots of change of colleagues around him and like a few others, playing games where they perhaps should have been rested.

    love to see him get forward and looking forward to a screaming 30 yarder at some point. its gonna happen.

    you think he will score a better goal than his Blackpool one
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    edited May 2015
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  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,651
    Got home tonight , my son informs me that Simon Church has been released by Charlton today, log onto Charlton Life, is Chris Solly our new scapegoat now churchy has gone?
  • East_Stand_Loopy
    East_Stand_Loopy Posts: 2,205
    He's had a few poor performances, but over the season has been pretty consistent.

    Do you drop Messi because he's had a poor game?

    My biggest criticism is as a captain, not a player.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,372
    He has been decent this season in my opinion - still wouldn't dream of dropping or replacing him.

    The standards he set in the previous years were nothing short of exceptional.

    Don't forget that he has had the weight of captaincy on his shoulders which he probably wasn't expecting at the beginning of the season.
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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    I wouldn't say he has gone backwards. The injury is the issue. That's what has halted his progress.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    More than adequate, I'd say
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,270
    Right, here goes....


    He's not even the best right back in the club right now, let alone in the championship.

    He hasnt ever been quick, but a lot of players seem to be flying past him this season, and his tackling and passing has been sloppier than usual.

    He's still a decent player, mark my words, but he's not the outstanding player some people on here paint him as
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,651
    Chris is definitely NOT a decent central midfielder.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    edited May 2015
    The answer is yes. Solly had been virtually unbeatable for a few years (when playing).

    His performances have slipped from outstanding to just good or even a few averages in recent weeks.

    However, he has definitely not been very poor.

    Why ? I don't know.
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    Threads like this make you realise why players, as Chris Eagles suggested, are spot on to stay away from fan forum's.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    edited May 2015
    cjp said:

    his passing,distribution and all round play this season has been very poor....

    To attempt an answer to your question:

    Anyone who attended Reading away would have seen a premiership standard performance, both defensively and going forward, from Chris Solly so the simple answer to your question is no he has not gone backwards he has if anything improved yet more in terms of potential excellence.

    The question you perhaps should have asked is something along the lines of is Chris Solly as consistently good as he has been previously?

    That is open to debate.

    I have to say that I found myself posting on the marks threads once or twice comments along the lines of not quite up to the standards we have come to expect from a little guy who is better than John Terry.

    However there are in my view mitigating circumstances for that drop in consistency, some of which others have already alluded to, such as the responsibilities of captaincy, playing twice a week with his chronic injury more than previously and not having the industry of Wagstaff/Wilson/Cousins in front of him as in previous seasons.
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  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    The problem is that we are so used to his good solid performances. Unless he does something Messi like we now think he has had a bad game.

    We must also bare in mind that he has played a few times in midfield

    He would be my first pick every week to be honest
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225
    edited May 2015
    Going backwards is a good skill for a defender. Don't want them to dive in.
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  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    edited May 2015
    No don't be silly.

    He has played a lot of games and for the majority of them has been one of our better players. Got a bit worse towards the end of the season but there was nothing to play for and he was probably drained from playing so much. One of the last people I would be looking at replacing.

    The only thing I will say bad about him is that he doesn't suit being captain. I feel like it's an unnecessary pressure for him and there are better options for captain. One of our most professional players, but just not commanding enough to be captain.
  • SEFREE
    SEFREE Posts: 103

    SEFREE said:

    to be fair to him he had set a fairly high bar with previous seasons performances.

    lots of change of colleagues around him and like a few others, playing games where they perhaps should have been rested.

    love to see him get forward and looking forward to a screaming 30 yarder at some point. its gonna happen.

    you think he will score a better goal than his Blackpool one
    yes and at home
  • I was at Reading away and it was an absolute defensive masterclass from Solly. That said, I thought he became quite inconsistent as the season went on (as did many of our players). I personally thought that the captaincy was a burden to him, and something I hope he doesn't hold onto next season. I said on another thread that just once and a while, I'd like to see the bloke crack a smile.
  • Hastingsaddick
    Hastingsaddick Posts: 4,079

    I was at Reading away and it was an absolute defensive masterclass from Solly. That said, I thought he became quite inconsistent as the season went on (as did many of our players). I personally thought that the captaincy was a burden to him, and something I hope he doesn't hold onto next season. I said on another thread that just once and a while, I'd like to see the bloke crack a smile.

    Tend to agree re the captaincy, and is he still having a problem with his knee?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    edited May 2015
    Maybe Henderson should be the Captain / Vice-Captain next year depending on what happens with Jackson... He's definitely a leader from the back.

    I always felt as though Michael Morrison was hampered when he had the armband and his performances would ultimately drop (in my eyes)... Maybe this is the same with Solly
  • Amos on the wing
    Amos on the wing Posts: 1,802
    Chris has set himself such high standards over the past 3 years that when he does have below par games (Not that many from the games I seen this season) you certainly notice. Would not swap him for any right back in the championship. Regarding the captaincy I do agree that it just not seem to fit with Solly. It was the same with Richard Rufus. Great player but it seemed the captaincy was a burden.
  • I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY
    I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY Posts: 4,608
    I think he done really well this year considering he hardly played last season due to injury.
  • East_Stand_Loopy
    East_Stand_Loopy Posts: 2,205
    The truth, as usual, is somewhere in between.

    When emotion becomes involved our views are are clouded.

    During the season, I looked at the scores that players received, and sometimes wondered where they came from. (We all have favourite players, myself included!)

    I would see some posters giving Solly MoTM scores of 8, when I thought he was decidedly average. Not a criticism of the person giving the score. We all see games in different ways.

    What I will say about Chris this season, is that for the first time since he made the position his own, at times there has looked like a real threat to him being first choice no. 2.

    Gomez has come in, and although playing out of position, has looked very comfortable at right back.

    Also, Chris has been asked occasionally to play in midfield. He has been spectacularly unsuccessful in that role. Leading to him being responsible for Bournemouth's 3rd goal on Saturday.

    Things like this do cloud supporters judgement.

    One other thing to add. I think Chris can count himself lucky that our academy isn't turning out right backs of the quality as it is left backs. This will guarantee him being first choice for another couple of seasons.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    sam3110 said:

    Right, here goes....


    He's not even the best right back in the club right now, let alone in the championship.

    He hasnt ever been quick, but a lot of players seem to be flying past him this season, and his tackling and passing has been sloppier than usual.

    He's still a decent player, mark my words, but he's not the outstanding player some people on here paint him as

    sad to say it but I agree. also not Captain material imo.

  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    Generally, I think a captain is better placed, if he's a leader of men, a person happy to speak out & give orders.

    I've met Chris a few times and he doesn't strike me as that.

    I mean, Chris giving orders to Bikey, Ben Haim etc doesn't perhaps, seem the best fit to me.