I think the best option with RD is to just sit back and let it all happen. If we finish twelfth each year and play decent football, I'll be content enough
Not me. Charlton need to get to the Premiership compete for promotion / top 6. Charlton need to show ambition to win over new supporters, attract players, compete with the state aid given to WHU and the free tickets, and the increased premiership TV money. There is no standing still.
Charlton need to aspire to be the best they can be. With the changes and competition in football, Charlton will need to run fast to just stand still. There is a risk that with the shift in increased competition from WHU and increased television money that Charlton's 'natural position' stops being mid table Championship and ends up being mid table League One.
Ambition for the club and acknowledging the challenge is vital. A season in the Premeirship with proper financial management could be need to maintain a mid table championship position.
FEATURE: Who is Pascal Dupraz? In his debut piece for Get French Football News, Brendan Macfarlane looks at Evian manager Pascal Dupraz, after he was recently linked with a move to Charlton Athletic.
Fifty-two-year-old Pascal Dupraz is widely known as one of French football’s most outspoken coaches, a consistent headline grabber, a most recent example of this being when he clashed publically with Bordeaux manager Willy Sagnol in February of this year. Dupraz was recently praised by his boss at Évian, the club’s president Joël Lopez, who described him in an interview with L’Équipe at the beginning of the month, describing Dupraz as one of the rare French managers who could one day manage clubs abroad and who could ‘coach in England’. If the recent developments are anything to go by, it appears that words of Lopez have not fallen upon deaf ears.
In his playing days, Dupraz was a keen centre-forward who first began a professional career with Sochaux. He then became somewhat of a journeyman, playing for four other clubs at semi-pro level, including Mulhouse, Toulon and Gueugnon. He would however eventually make a name for himself as a player-manager and then as a dedicated coach with lowly side FC Gaillard.
With his hands firmly held on the reigns, Dupraz guided the small-town club into the CFA 2, the fifth-tier of French football. He eventually led the club to promotion to the CFA, the country’s fourth-tier, after the 2001-2002 campaign and at the end of the club’s third season in the CFA 2. The club was to become a cornerstone of contemporary outfit Évian Thonon-Gaillard, and upon the new club’s 2007 formation there was only one candidate who seemed right for the new job – Pascal Dupraz.
Between 2007 and 2011, Dupraz lead the newly formed club to successive promotions from the CFA, guiding his side to the elite level of French football, Ligue 1. This was clearly an emotional moment for the coach, as he had given twenty years of his playing and managerial career to a club to bring about such success. A fact that also explains why his future has rarely been called into question during rocky periods in Ligue 1 relegation battles gone by.
Ever the confident and self-assured character, Dupraz said in an interview with Le Monde at the time that he felt that he had earned the success he had achieved, commenting that he believed in the ‘virtues of work’ and in ‘destiny’. The Évian head coach’s spell at the club almost reached a fairytale climax when his side narrowly lost 3-2 to Girondins de Bordeaux in the final of the 2013 Coupe de France.
As Dupraz admitted this season in a more recent interview with Le Monde, he is a coach whose personality divides opinion – in his own words he is the type of person who people either ‘love or hate’. His outspoken ways and his overstated mannerisms certainly gain him fans and foes, and his tactical approaches equally lead to a similar dichotomy of opinions.
The current Olympique Lyonnais manager and the then Stade de Reims coach Hubert Fournier once famously quipped that Dupraz’s could be described as being à l’anglaise or in the English style, and there is a certain degree of truth to be drawn from the former Borussia Mönchengladbach player’s analysis.
In the 2014-2015 season, Dupraz mainly organized his side in a deep-lying 4-2-3-1 system, from which his side relied mostly on breaks from counter-attacks and set-pieces to create goal-scoring opportunities. One of the most ‘English-like’ aspects of Évian’s style of play in this most recent season was their utilisation of a lone, targetman centre-forward upfront – a player who was to be found in the shape of Mathieu Duhamel, the Évian number ten who was signed on loan from Caen on January’s transfer deadline and who had ironically scored against Dupraz’s side on the opening day of the season in Annecy. Duhamel made the most of long balls up top to him throughout his spell at Évian, scoring four times in eleven appearances for the club.
Faced with the prospect of a certain return to Ligue 2 football if he stays with his current club thanks to their relegation, the potential lure of an offer from Charlton Athletic could prove to be too much for the fifty-two-year-old coach to resist. If a deal was to take place, it could also be advantageous for both parties. A move to The Addicks would serve Dupraz with an exciting opportunity to develop a career within English football, at a club directed by a French-speaking owner and that count no fewer than five French-speaking players within their first-team ranks, with both aspects acting as potential buffers to what could otherwise be an overwhelming culture shock. The sporting challenge of attempting to guide the football club back to the Premier League would surely be an enticing opportunity.
From Charlton’s point of view, in Dupraz they would find themselves with a candidate who is already well-accustomed to the type of European-style head coach role that club owner Roland Duchâtelet has attempted to implement within the club’s structure. Fans may also be impressed with Dupraz’s history of gaining promotions for his sides, bearing in mind that current club coach Guy Luzon hasn’t guided a single club to promotion throughout his career.
FEATURE: Who is Pascal Dupraz? In his debut piece for Get French Football News, Brendan Macfarlane looks at Evian manager Pascal Dupraz, after he was recently linked with a move to Charlton Athletic.
Fifty-two-year-old Pascal Dupraz is widely known as one of French football’s most outspoken coaches, a consistent headline grabber, a most recent example of this being when he clashed publically with Bordeaux manager Willy Sagnol in February of this year. Dupraz was recently praised by his boss at Évian, the club’s president Joël Lopez, who described him in an interview with L’Équipe at the beginning of the month, describing Dupraz as one of the rare French managers who could one day manage clubs abroad and who could ‘coach in England’. If the recent developments are anything to go by, it appears that words of Lopez have not fallen upon deaf ears.
In his playing days, Dupraz was a keen centre-forward who first began a professional career with Sochaux. He then became somewhat of a journeyman, playing for four other clubs at semi-pro level, including Mulhouse, Toulon and Gueugnon. He would however eventually make a name for himself as a player-manager and then as a dedicated coach with lowly side FC Gaillard.
With his hands firmly held on the reigns, Dupraz guided the small-town club into the CFA 2, the fifth-tier of French football. He eventually led the club to promotion to the CFA, the country’s fourth-tier, after the 2001-2002 campaign and at the end of the club’s third season in the CFA 2. The club was to become a cornerstone of contemporary outfit Évian Thonon-Gaillard, and upon the new club’s 2007 formation there was only one candidate who seemed right for the new job – Pascal Dupraz.
Between 2007 and 2011, Dupraz lead the newly formed club to successive promotions from the CFA, guiding his side to the elite level of French football, Ligue 1. This was clearly an emotional moment for the coach, as he had given twenty years of his playing and managerial career to a club to bring about such success. A fact that also explains why his future has rarely been called into question during rocky periods in Ligue 1 relegation battles gone by.
Ever the confident and self-assured character, Dupraz said in an interview with Le Monde at the time that he felt that he had earned the success he had achieved, commenting that he believed in the ‘virtues of work’ and in ‘destiny’. The Évian head coach’s spell at the club almost reached a fairytale climax when his side narrowly lost 3-2 to Girondins de Bordeaux in the final of the 2013 Coupe de France.
As Dupraz admitted this season in a more recent interview with Le Monde, he is a coach whose personality divides opinion – in his own words he is the type of person who people either ‘love or hate’. His outspoken ways and his overstated mannerisms certainly gain him fans and foes, and his tactical approaches equally lead to a similar dichotomy of opinions.
The current Olympique Lyonnais manager and the then Stade de Reims coach Hubert Fournier once famously quipped that Dupraz’s could be described as being à l’anglaise or in the English style, and there is a certain degree of truth to be drawn from the former Borussia Mönchengladbach player’s analysis.
In the 2014-2015 season, Dupraz mainly organized his side in a deep-lying 4-2-3-1 system, from which his side relied mostly on breaks from counter-attacks and set-pieces to create goal-scoring opportunities. One of the most ‘English-like’ aspects of Évian’s style of play in this most recent season was their utilisation of a lone, targetman centre-forward upfront – a player who was to be found in the shape of Mathieu Duhamel, the Évian number ten who was signed on loan from Caen on January’s transfer deadline and who had ironically scored against Dupraz’s side on the opening day of the season in Annecy. Duhamel made the most of long balls up top to him throughout his spell at Évian, scoring four times in eleven appearances for the club.
Faced with the prospect of a certain return to Ligue 2 football if he stays with his current club thanks to their relegation, the potential lure of an offer from Charlton Athletic could prove to be too much for the fifty-two-year-old coach to resist. If a deal was to take place, it could also be advantageous for both parties. A move to The Addicks would serve Dupraz with an exciting opportunity to develop a career within English football, at a club directed by a French-speaking owner and that count no fewer than five French-speaking players within their first-team ranks, with both aspects acting as potential buffers to what could otherwise be an overwhelming culture shock. The sporting challenge of attempting to guide the football club back to the Premier League would surely be an enticing opportunity.
From Charlton’s point of view, in Dupraz they would find themselves with a candidate who is already well-accustomed to the type of European-style head coach role that club owner Roland Duchâtelet has attempted to implement within the club’s structure. Fans may also be impressed with Dupraz’s history of gaining promotions for his sides, bearing in mind that current club coach Guy Luzon hasn’t guided a single club to promotion throughout his career.
Interesting stuff.
Not sure how this would sit with the notion of "a proper recruitment process" and "appointing a coach for the long-term" though.
I've been going since 1961. In practice we've been standing still since then. That season we finished 15th. Chill your beans. We are at our level.
You are a top Guru, But please, that's an insult to Richard Murray( the early years) and Curbs, who got us to the nose bleeding heights of 4th in the Prem, before Scott Parker Terrible 2's tantrum.(if he'd waited to end of season we could have been in champions league !!!)
We have come back to the same place: mid table Championship(old 2nd div) when i joined this cult of a football club, a few years after you. (Other 4 letter words beginning with C are available)
I've been going since 1961. In practice we've been standing still since then. That season we finished 15th. Chill your beans. We are at our level.
You are a top Guru, But please, that's an insult to Richard Murray( the early years) and Curbs, who got us to the nose bleeding heights of 4th in the Prem, before Scott Parker Terrible 2's tantrum.(if he'd waited to end of season we could have been in champions league !!!)
We have come back to the same place: mid table Championship(old 2nd div) when i joined this cult of a football club, a few years after you. (Other 4 letter words beginning with C are available)
A graph would show those wonderful Curbs years as a spike. Nothing more. I think a mid table 2nd tier club is about what we are for the most part.
I'd like to think that we might get another shot at the big time in the next few years but I'm not expecting it.
We are so far behind the likes of West Ham, and practically every other Premier League team it's insane. Bridging the gap for a sustained period will require luck on a biblical scale or an owner with as much money or more than Roland but with a wish to spend significant chunks of it on Charlton. I'm not expecting that either.
Random bump but just thinking on who would replace Luzon if he goes and this guy sprang to mind. Certainly a random rumour at the time but he's out of work and has no Championship experience so he'd probably be a front runner in RDs eye's
I think the best option with RD is to just sit back and let it all happen. If we finish twelfth each year and play decent football, I'll be content enough
Well, we have no choice but to do that as the owner doesn't care what anyone thinks or does. And suspect that 12th and decent football is a pipe dream as things stand.
Heard from someone at the game yesterday that Roland was spotted having lunch with Avram Grant over the weekend. May well be nothing & don't shoot the messenger!
Heard from someone at the game yesterday that Roland was spotted having lunch with Avram Grant over the weekend. May well be nothing & don't shoot the messenger!
Didn't we hear the same thing about a year ago, perhaps he has regular lunch dates with him
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How do you know Luzon hasn't been approached by another club
If we didn't have an option to cover those situations I'd be more concerned
Ambition for the club and acknowledging the challenge is vital. A season in the Premeirship with proper financial management could be need to maintain a mid table championship position.
In his debut piece for Get French Football News, Brendan Macfarlane looks at Evian manager Pascal Dupraz, after he was recently linked with a move to Charlton Athletic.
Fifty-two-year-old Pascal Dupraz is widely known as one of French football’s most outspoken coaches, a consistent headline grabber, a most recent example of this being when he clashed publically with Bordeaux manager Willy Sagnol in February of this year. Dupraz was recently praised by his boss at Évian, the club’s president Joël Lopez, who described him in an interview with L’Équipe at the beginning of the month, describing Dupraz as one of the rare French managers who could one day manage clubs abroad and who could ‘coach in England’. If the recent developments are anything to go by, it appears that words of Lopez have not fallen upon deaf ears.
In his playing days, Dupraz was a keen centre-forward who first began a professional career with Sochaux. He then became somewhat of a journeyman, playing for four other clubs at semi-pro level, including Mulhouse, Toulon and Gueugnon. He would however eventually make a name for himself as a player-manager and then as a dedicated coach with lowly side FC Gaillard.
With his hands firmly held on the reigns, Dupraz guided the small-town club into the CFA 2, the fifth-tier of French football. He eventually led the club to promotion to the CFA, the country’s fourth-tier, after the 2001-2002 campaign and at the end of the club’s third season in the CFA 2. The club was to become a cornerstone of contemporary outfit Évian Thonon-Gaillard, and upon the new club’s 2007 formation there was only one candidate who seemed right for the new job – Pascal Dupraz.
Between 2007 and 2011, Dupraz lead the newly formed club to successive promotions from the CFA, guiding his side to the elite level of French football, Ligue 1. This was clearly an emotional moment for the coach, as he had given twenty years of his playing and managerial career to a club to bring about such success. A fact that also explains why his future has rarely been called into question during rocky periods in Ligue 1 relegation battles gone by.
Ever the confident and self-assured character, Dupraz said in an interview with Le Monde at the time that he felt that he had earned the success he had achieved, commenting that he believed in the ‘virtues of work’ and in ‘destiny’. The Évian head coach’s spell at the club almost reached a fairytale climax when his side narrowly lost 3-2 to Girondins de Bordeaux in the final of the 2013 Coupe de France.
As Dupraz admitted this season in a more recent interview with Le Monde, he is a coach whose personality divides opinion – in his own words he is the type of person who people either ‘love or hate’. His outspoken ways and his overstated mannerisms certainly gain him fans and foes, and his tactical approaches equally lead to a similar dichotomy of opinions.
The current Olympique Lyonnais manager and the then Stade de Reims coach Hubert Fournier once famously quipped that Dupraz’s could be described as being à l’anglaise or in the English style, and there is a certain degree of truth to be drawn from the former Borussia Mönchengladbach player’s analysis.
In the 2014-2015 season, Dupraz mainly organized his side in a deep-lying 4-2-3-1 system, from which his side relied mostly on breaks from counter-attacks and set-pieces to create goal-scoring opportunities. One of the most ‘English-like’ aspects of Évian’s style of play in this most recent season was their utilisation of a lone, targetman centre-forward upfront – a player who was to be found in the shape of Mathieu Duhamel, the Évian number ten who was signed on loan from Caen on January’s transfer deadline and who had ironically scored against Dupraz’s side on the opening day of the season in Annecy. Duhamel made the most of long balls up top to him throughout his spell at Évian, scoring four times in eleven appearances for the club.
Faced with the prospect of a certain return to Ligue 2 football if he stays with his current club thanks to their relegation, the potential lure of an offer from Charlton Athletic could prove to be too much for the fifty-two-year-old coach to resist. If a deal was to take place, it could also be advantageous for both parties. A move to The Addicks would serve Dupraz with an exciting opportunity to develop a career within English football, at a club directed by a French-speaking owner and that count no fewer than five French-speaking players within their first-team ranks, with both aspects acting as potential buffers to what could otherwise be an overwhelming culture shock. The sporting challenge of attempting to guide the football club back to the Premier League would surely be an enticing opportunity.
From Charlton’s point of view, in Dupraz they would find themselves with a candidate who is already well-accustomed to the type of European-style head coach role that club owner Roland Duchâtelet has attempted to implement within the club’s structure. Fans may also be impressed with Dupraz’s history of gaining promotions for his sides, bearing in mind that current club coach Guy Luzon hasn’t guided a single club to promotion throughout his career.
Not sure how this would sit with the notion of "a proper recruitment process" and "appointing a coach for the long-term" though.
Probably just journalistic guff
http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Evian-tg-pascal-dupraz-mis-a-pied/567637
that's an insult to Richard Murray( the early years) and Curbs,
who got us to the nose bleeding heights of 4th in the Prem, before Scott Parker
Terrible 2's tantrum.(if he'd waited to end of season we could have been in champions league !!!)
We have come back to the same place: mid table Championship(old 2nd div)
when i joined this cult of a football club, a few years after you.
(Other 4 letter words beginning with C are available)
I'd like to think that we might get another shot at the big time in the next few years but I'm not expecting it.
We are so far behind the likes of West Ham, and practically every other Premier League team it's insane. Bridging the gap for a sustained period will require luck on a biblical
scale or an owner with as much money or more than Roland but with a wish to spend significant chunks of it on Charlton. I'm not expecting that either.
Too soon?
CHARLTON ATHLETIC MANAGER
BEST BEFORE: THE DAY HE IS APPOINTED + SIX MONTHS.
Great man, sh*t manager.