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kentaddick said:PragueAddick said:killerandflash said:seth plum said:Maybe, but if you start at Woolwich and don't have to faff about at mainline Paddington the time differences may be marginal.
Either way it will be cheaper.
No bogs on Crossrail doesn't sound good!0 -
PragueAddick said:killerandflash said:seth plum said:Maybe, but if you start at Woolwich and don't have to faff about at mainline Paddington the time differences may be marginal.
Either way it will be cheaper.
Once it rises to the surface past Paddington, Crossrail takes the same route to Heathrow, but stops a few times0 -
Friend Or Defoe said:kentaddick said:PragueAddick said:killerandflash said:seth plum said:Maybe, but if you start at Woolwich and don't have to faff about at mainline Paddington the time differences may be marginal.
Either way it will be cheaper.
No bogs on Crossrail doesn't sound good!2 -
Big_Bad_World said:Friend Or Defoe said:kentaddick said:PragueAddick said:killerandflash said:seth plum said:Maybe, but if you start at Woolwich and don't have to faff about at mainline Paddington the time differences may be marginal.
Either way it will be cheaper.
No bogs on Crossrail doesn't sound good!
Although it might take more than 5 mins to find a toilet at the station.1 -
Jints said:Interesting article on why the Jubilee Line Extension came forward in the 1990s and Crossrail didn't.
https://www.onlondon.co.uk/richard-brown-tube-wars-of-20th-century-how-the-liz-line-fought-the-jubilee/2 -
Red_in_SE8 said:Big_Bad_World said:Friend Or Defoe said:kentaddick said:PragueAddick said:killerandflash said:seth plum said:Maybe, but if you start at Woolwich and don't have to faff about at mainline Paddington the time differences may be marginal.
Either way it will be cheaper.
No bogs on Crossrail doesn't sound good!
Although it might take more than 5 mins to find a toilet at the station.0 -
thetomahawkkid said:Red_in_SE8 said:Big_Bad_World said:Friend Or Defoe said:kentaddick said:PragueAddick said:killerandflash said:seth plum said:Maybe, but if you start at Woolwich and don't have to faff about at mainline Paddington the time differences may be marginal.
Either way it will be cheaper.
No bogs on Crossrail doesn't sound good!
Although it might take more than 5 mins to find a toilet at the station.0 -
Just used it from Abbey Wood to Paddington and it’s great. Just under 30 minutes for a 3.10 fare is excellent0
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Jints said:Interesting article on why the Jubilee Line Extension came forward in the 1990s and Crossrail didn't.
https://www.onlondon.co.uk/richard-brown-tube-wars-of-20th-century-how-the-liz-line-fought-the-jubilee/Jints said:Interesting article on why the Jubilee Line Extension came forward in the 1990s and Crossrail didn't.
https://www.onlondon.co.uk/richard-brown-tube-wars-of-20th-century-how-the-liz-line-fought-the-jubilee/0 -
Friend Or Defoe said:Apparently the tunnels were so long they had to factor in the curvature of the planet?0
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Big_Bad_World said:Friend Or Defoe said:kentaddick said:PragueAddick said:killerandflash said:seth plum said:Maybe, but if you start at Woolwich and don't have to faff about at mainline Paddington the time differences may be marginal.
Either way it will be cheaper.
No bogs on Crossrail doesn't sound good!
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Heathrow used to be the Piccadilly line before all this new fangled Elizabeth stuff.
Or district line, cross the platform at Baron’s Court and you’re on your way.
Never understood the need for the Heathrow Express from Paddington.1 -
seth plum said:Heathrow used to be the Piccadilly line before all this new fangled Elizabeth stuff.
Or district line, cross the platform at Baron’s Court and you’re on your way.
Never understood the need for the Heathrow Express from Paddington.1 -
seth plum said:Heathrow used to be the Piccadilly line before all this new fangled Elizabeth stuff.
Or district line, cross the platform at Baron’s Court and you’re on your way.
Never understood the need for the Heathrow Express from Paddington.0 -
seth plum said:Heathrow used to be the Piccadilly line before all this new fangled Elizabeth stuff.
Or district line, cross the platform at Baron’s Court and you’re on your way.
Never understood the need for the Heathrow Express from Paddington.2 -
I have gone to Heathrow and back a lot on the underground.
No way is it worth it for me to use the Heathrow Express from Paddington.
Maybe it is because I am in South East London and it feels like going half way to Scotland to schlepp to Paddington, driving to and from Heathrow is also a drag.
Best is a lift or the 108 through the Blackwall, get dropped off at Bow Road, District Line, then a very easy platform change at Barons Court, Piccadilly line to Heathrow.
Whenever possible it would be Gatwick anyway using the train from London Bridge.
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Big_Bad_World said:
PragueAddick said:Big_Bad_World said:PragueAddick said:Charlton_Stu said:
Have lived and breathed this horror story for far too long, with Bond Street proving to be one of the biggest thorns in my arse for many a year.But I did also enjoy your rather too insistent protestations that you are only interested in the infrastructure, or was it the architecture, but not the trains, oh no, not the trains.😉'Tis true, though.
The station infrastructure and integrated systems are my domain. Fleet/Rolling Stock isn't my bag.1 -
If you book in advance and use a senior railcard you get buy a ticket on the Heathrow Express for £3.65.
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seth plum said:'West Country' away games next season will be in Plymouth, Exeter, Bristol, Cheltenham, Nailsworth and maybe a touch of Oxford, Wycombe....and does Shrewsbury count?
Anyway, if you have the London Freedom Pass when the line is fully up and running you can get a ticket from Reading on to the west rather than Paddington.
Reading to Plymouth starts at around £30, but Paddington to Plymouth starts at around £36. A faster Journey without the Paddington faff at a cheaper price.0 -
thetomahawkkid said:Red_in_SE8 said:Big_Bad_World said:Friend Or Defoe said:kentaddick said:PragueAddick said:killerandflash said:seth plum said:Maybe, but if you start at Woolwich and don't have to faff about at mainline Paddington the time differences may be marginal.
Either way it will be cheaper.
No bogs on Crossrail doesn't sound good!
Although it might take more than 5 mins to find a toilet at the station.0 - Sponsored links:
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smiffyboy said:Jints said:Interesting article on why the Jubilee Line Extension came forward in the 1990s and Crossrail didn't.
https://www.onlondon.co.uk/richard-brown-tube-wars-of-20th-century-how-the-liz-line-fought-the-jubilee/0 -
Crusty54 said:seth plum said:'West Country' away games next season will be in Plymouth, Exeter, Bristol, Cheltenham, Nailsworth and maybe a touch of Oxford, Wycombe....and does Shrewsbury count?
Anyway, if you have the London Freedom Pass when the line is fully up and running you can get a ticket from Reading on to the west rather than Paddington.
Reading to Plymouth starts at around £30, but Paddington to Plymouth starts at around £36. A faster Journey without the Paddington faff at a cheaper price.4 -
Jints said:Interesting article on why the Jubilee Line Extension came forward in the 1990s and Crossrail didn't.
https://www.onlondon.co.uk/richard-brown-tube-wars-of-20th-century-how-the-liz-line-fought-the-jubilee/
Obviously the development at Canary Wharf ruined that. The tunnels continue from the Charing Cross Jubilee Line station right up to Aldwych. I know there was some chat in the early naughties about extending the DLR through to the abandoned Charing Cross station.0 -
killerandflash said:PragueAddick said:killerandflash said:seth plum said:Maybe, but if you start at Woolwich and don't have to faff about at mainline Paddington the time differences may be marginal.
Either way it will be cheaper.
Once it rises to the surface past Paddington, Crossrail takes the same route to Heathrow, but stops a few times@Big_Bad_World what do you mean by the “displaced” argument? Not a pop, I am just not sure what you mean there.0 -
smiffyboy said:Jints said:Interesting article on why the Jubilee Line Extension came forward in the 1990s and Crossrail didn't.
https://www.onlondon.co.uk/richard-brown-tube-wars-of-20th-century-how-the-liz-line-fought-the-jubilee/0 -
PragueAddick said:killerandflash said:PragueAddick said:killerandflash said:seth plum said:Maybe, but if you start at Woolwich and don't have to faff about at mainline Paddington the time differences may be marginal.
Either way it will be cheaper.
Once it rises to the surface past Paddington, Crossrail takes the same route to Heathrow, but stops a few times@Big_Bad_World what do you mean by the “displaced” argument? Not a pop, I am just not sure what you mean there.2 -
This is the list of stations with toilets
https://mylondon.trem.media/news/zone-1-news/crossrail-elizabeth-line-stations-toilets-24043579
https://www.london.gov.uk/questions/2020/0957
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Friend Or Defoe said:man_at_milletts said:PragueAddick said:Big_Bad_World said:PragueAddick said:Cardinal Sin said:The best thing about the Elizabeth line from Woolwich is that it should make more space on the North Kent line for those of us who suffer congestion getting on at Charlton, Westcombe Park, Maze Hill and Greenwich.
Fully appreciate that this is also a pain in the arse but, if timed correctly, should only take about 15 minutes.
@Dansk_Red I'd forgotten about those Victoria trains, tis true, but that's because I never use them. I wonder how many BH line travellers do, off-peak. When I arrive at Charing Cross, knackered after hauling myself from Heathrow with luggage on a hot summer day, only to find that I just missed the BH line train, it isn't easy to quickly check if I can gain anything by picking up a Victoria line train at Lewisham. Usually when I managed it, I saved about 4 minutes.
But hopefully with Crossrail, I won't be going that way from LHR any more.
If I'm correct, I read in one of the Railway Mags that that's one of the drawbacks of opening this new line. I used to use New Eltham to Charlton regularly when I lived in London but the service was depleted and I believe will be non-existent once the Elizabeth Line is fully open.
It was at a friend's house. ;-)
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It is a fantastic service. So fast to Liverpool st. Just wished my office was slightly nearer to Liv street.Made my first mistake tonight. I had headphones in Not concentrating so I ended up in Abbey wood when I was supposed to get off at Woolwich. So quick, didn’t realise.6
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Big_Bad_World said:PragueAddick said:killerandflash said:PragueAddick said:killerandflash said:seth plum said:Maybe, but if you start at Woolwich and don't have to faff about at mainline Paddington the time differences may be marginal.
Either way it will be cheaper.
Once it rises to the surface past Paddington, Crossrail takes the same route to Heathrow, but stops a few times@Big_Bad_World what do you mean by the “displaced” argument? Not a pop, I am just not sure what you mean there.
I checked the situation on the Paris RERs and they had bogs but have been withdrawing them. But they blame "health and security" issues. Apparently they were extensively occupied by homeless types. But then again, we Brits aren't supposed to consider France any kind of benchmark when it comes to bogs, right?
I'll predict how this will end up. I'll give it 2 years. As people start using it, especially to/from LHR, the complaints will start to gather heat (It was described as "the most controversial element" in the article I read) but TfL will resist until some entitled female Tory SPAD leaves yet another Bojo thrash lateish and decides to give Crossrail a try. She gets badly caught short and next day makes a big thing about it. Bojo briefs the Mail, which starts a Campaign, claiming that the decision not to have bogs was -somehow- Sadiq Khan's fault. TfL buckle and bogs are retrofitted at huge extra cost.
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