I do hope the snail doesn't get back into the team. There must be better players out there.
You're not a fan, are you.
You cant argue with GB's Test average - still in high 40's , I think. He's a good player, good temperament, and will come back to the Test team a much better player once he can get back to having some confidence, and then working out his problems. He'll be back as next cab off the rank once the Ozzies are gone - and he'll be there to stay for a long time.
I do hope the snail doesn't get back into the team. There must be better players out there.
You're not a fan, are you.
You cant argue with GB's Test average - still in high 40's , I think. He's a good player, good temperament, and will come back to the Test team a much better player once he can get back to having some confidence, and then working out his problems. He'll be back as next cab off the rank once the Ozzies are gone - and he'll be there to stay for a long time.
He has been found out by better bowlers as I thought he would. This next Test is last chance Saloon for Lyth and Bell.
It would be nice if we actually had our own fast bowlers. By fast I mean consistently bowling 90mph+. It is a fact acknowledged by the pros that the extra 5mph or so over at 88mph is a massive difference. But what do we do with any kid who has the build and ability to bowl fast and hostile? We muck about with his action to make him into yet another line and length 80mph bowler. We did it with Finn and Tremlett and others. Remember Harmison's aggression to Langer and Ponting in 2005? A young raw fast bowler can be expensive for sure but wouldn't be great to have one, to at least shake up the opposition?
We have to have the pitches too. Because otherwise the line and length merchants remain king. Fast bouncy tracks would also help spinners too.
Pitches are not an issue. Can be sorted tomorrow. It doesn't matter how slow a pitch is, it's speed through the air that matters. Holding at the Oval in 76 and Johnson at Lords 2015 prove that.
"Pitches are not an issue. Can be sorted out tomorrow".
The likes of Kent, with 39 year old Darren Stevens opening the bowling and Essex, with David Masters doing the same job, aren't going to prepare fast tracks to suit the opposition's 90 mph bullet train - unless a directive comes out that they have to do so.
You're talking about county cricket which has nothing to do with Test cricket anymore.
But it is county cricket that produces England cricketers.
No it doesn't!
These days potential England cricketers are identified long before they play county cricket and the ones that actually make it hardly play any county cricket at all. Of course not every star at U17, U19 makes it but our county game does not produce tomorrow's stars like it used to. As for pitches, tracks at Canterbury or Chelmsford are irrelevant to my point; we don't play Tests at those grounds. If we did have a genuine quick he wouldn't need to play for his county once he was embraced by Team England. It's not just our domestic game that is suffering; why are Australia picking such old players? They have no obvious batting talent coming through, their bowling reserves are fine though. That point has been made repeatedly this summer by the likes of Ponting, McGrath and the journos Jim Maxwell and Gideon Haigh.
It would be nice if we actually had our own fast bowlers. By fast I mean consistently bowling 90mph+. It is a fact acknowledged by the pros that the extra 5mph or so over at 88mph is a massive difference. But what do we do with any kid who has the build and ability to bowl fast and hostile? We muck about with his action to make him into yet another line and length 80mph bowler. We did it with Finn and Tremlett and others. Remember Harmison's aggression to Langer and Ponting in 2005? A young raw fast bowler can be expensive for sure but wouldn't be great to have one, to at least shake up the opposition?
We have to have the pitches too. Because otherwise the line and length merchants remain king. Fast bouncy tracks would also help spinners too.
Pitches are not an issue. Can be sorted tomorrow. It doesn't matter how slow a pitch is, it's speed through the air that matters. Holding at the Oval in 76 and Johnson at Lords 2015 prove that.
"Pitches are not an issue. Can be sorted out tomorrow".
The likes of Kent, with 39 year old Darren Stevens opening the bowling and Essex, with David Masters doing the same job, aren't going to prepare fast tracks to suit the opposition's 90 mph bullet train - unless a directive comes out that they have to do so.
You're talking about county cricket which has nothing to do with Test cricket anymore.
But it is county cricket that produces England cricketers.
No it doesn't!
These days potential England cricketers are identified long before they play county cricket and the ones that actually make it hardly play any county cricket at all. Of course not every star at U17, U19 makes it but our county game does not produce tomorrow's stars like it used to. As for pitches, tracks at Canterbury or Chelmsford are irrelevant to my point; we don't play Tests at those grounds. If we did have a genuine quick he wouldn't need to play for his county once he was embraced by Team England. It's not just our domestic game that is suffering; why are Australia picking such old players? They have no obvious batting talent coming through, their bowling reserves are fine though. That point has been made repeatedly this summer by the likes of Ponting, McGrath and the journos Jim Maxwell and Gideon Haigh.
I think you will find that those that make the England U17/U19 teams have already been through the county process and played through their various age groups in doing so. They then get the experience of playing in the CC.
Some play more than others because very few players are ready in their development to go straight into the International set up - Root being an exception - and those that do usually have to go back to the CC to find their form as their development is rarely a straight upward curve.
It would be nice if we actually had our own fast bowlers. By fast I mean consistently bowling 90mph+. It is a fact acknowledged by the pros that the extra 5mph or so over at 88mph is a massive difference. But what do we do with any kid who has the build and ability to bowl fast and hostile? We muck about with his action to make him into yet another line and length 80mph bowler. We did it with Finn and Tremlett and others. Remember Harmison's aggression to Langer and Ponting in 2005? A young raw fast bowler can be expensive for sure but wouldn't be great to have one, to at least shake up the opposition?
We have to have the pitches too. Because otherwise the line and length merchants remain king. Fast bouncy tracks would also help spinners too.
Pitches are not an issue. Can be sorted tomorrow. It doesn't matter how slow a pitch is, it's speed through the air that matters. Holding at the Oval in 76 and Johnson at Lords 2015 prove that.
"Pitches are not an issue. Can be sorted out tomorrow".
The likes of Kent, with 39 year old Darren Stevens opening the bowling and Essex, with David Masters doing the same job, aren't going to prepare fast tracks to suit the opposition's 90 mph bullet train - unless a directive comes out that they have to do so.
You're talking about county cricket which has nothing to do with Test cricket anymore.
But it is county cricket that produces England cricketers.
No it doesn't!
These days potential England cricketers are identified long before they play county cricket and the ones that actually make it hardly play any county cricket at all. Of course not every star at U17, U19 makes it but our county game does not produce tomorrow's stars like it used to. As for pitches, tracks at Canterbury or Chelmsford are irrelevant to my point; we don't play Tests at those grounds. If we did have a genuine quick he wouldn't need to play for his county once he was embraced by Team England. It's not just our domestic game that is suffering; why are Australia picking such old players? They have no obvious batting talent coming through, their bowling reserves are fine though. That point has been made repeatedly this summer by the likes of Ponting, McGrath and the journos Jim Maxwell and Gideon Haigh.
I think you will find that those that make the England U17/U19 teams have already been through the county process and played through their various age groups in doing so. They then get the experience of playing in the CC.
Some play more than others because very few players are ready in their development to go straight into the International set up - Root being an exception - and those that do usually have to go back to the CC to find their form as their development is rarely a straight upward curve.
Was listening to Dominic Cork on Talksport first thing this morning from Edgbaston. He was there when they took the covers off. Looks very much like a batting track which will get faster as the game progresses. Whoever wins the toss will bat first.
Was listening to Dominic Cork on Talksport first thing this morning from Edgbaston. He was there when they took the covers off. Looks very much like a batting track which will get faster as the game progresses. Whoever wins the toss will bat first.
seems a trend where wining the toss is very important
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You cant argue with GB's Test average - still in high 40's , I think.
He's a good player, good temperament, and will come back to the Test team a much better player once he can get back to having some confidence, and then working out his problems.
He'll be back as next cab off the rank once the Ozzies are gone - and he'll be there to stay for a long time.
A mate pulled out & is going on holiday instead.
Dont have time to walk up and throw at the stumps from 5 yards.....
Say you brought in Hales to open for Trent Bridge and the Oval, and he had four failures, then do you drop him as well?
As easy and satisfying as it is to make knee-jerk reactions, you need to back your judgement on players over the longer term.
I remember when Steve Smith first came into the Aussie team, the thought of him being the best player in the world was laughable - not so much now!!
i'm not sure i believe that, he's retained his place, on performance so far in this series, he should've been dropped and maybe bell to.
These days potential England cricketers are identified long before they play county cricket and the ones that actually make it hardly play any county cricket at all.
Of course not every star at U17, U19 makes it but our county game does not produce tomorrow's stars like it used to. As for pitches, tracks at Canterbury or Chelmsford are irrelevant to my point; we don't play Tests at those grounds. If we did have a genuine quick he wouldn't need to play for his county once he was embraced by Team England.
It's not just our domestic game that is suffering; why are Australia picking such old players? They have no obvious batting talent coming through, their bowling reserves are fine though. That point has been made repeatedly this summer by the likes of Ponting, McGrath and the journos Jim Maxwell and Gideon Haigh.
Some play more than others because very few players are ready in their development to go straight into the International set up - Root being an exception - and those that do usually have to go back to the CC to find their form as their development is rarely a straight upward curve.
Very reliable and knows what his job is - see off the new ball and lay the platform for his middle-order.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/cricket/clive-rice-former-south-africa-cricket-captain-dies-aged-66/ar-AAdAsLU
Was listening to Dominic Cork on Talksport first thing this morning from Edgbaston. He was there when they took the covers off. Looks very much like a batting track which will get faster as the game progresses. Whoever wins the toss will bat first.
RIP.
Finn in for Wood who has a slight ankle niggle.
Aus are the same as last Test.
1st ball swung. 2nd ball Warner nearly run out.