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Kola Karim interested in buying Charlton? (maybe?)

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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    Yep, lovely, and big african community in the surrounding areas.
  • Addickforlife
    Addickforlife Posts: 2,101
    Rothko said:

    Yep, lovely, and big african community in the surrounding areas.

    Pockets of the surrounding area's do, but I don't think you'd call Fulham an area with a large African population. I'd probably count Fulham out.

    I think he seems to be indicating it is us he is looking at, but as we all know by now looking at and actually doing something about it are very different things!
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    Rothko said:

    Just watched the interview. says he's looking at a London non premier League club in an area with a high African population, so us with the big west African community is an obvious, but doesn't mean it couldn't be Brentford or Fulham.

    Or Millwall.
    Rothko said:

    The blokes minted, and has access to serious funds.

    Can we keep the stereotypes to a minimum?

    Unfortunately I think stereotypes will be the least of it.

    When it's on the OS
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,260
    image

    First thing that popped into my head
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,978
    I find the need for a large African community thing quite strange without explanation. This club is a leader on anti-racism topics and if there ever was a community club, regardless of background, its Charlton.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    the ultimate question is

    are we actively up for sale?
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,820

    the ultimate question is

    are we actively up for sale?

    Every club is for sale
  • somerton
    somerton Posts: 237
    Is he a tribal chief as well, oh we had one of those in the past.
  • Addickforlife
    Addickforlife Posts: 2,101

    I find the need for a large African community thing quite strange without explanation. This club is a leader on anti-racism topics and if there ever was a community club, regardless of background, its Charlton.

    Surely it's a little like some of the big Premiership targeting Far Eastern sponsors and players. He recognises that there is a country with millions of football fans that no Premiership club has really tapped up from a marketing point of view yet, so with his African links and our African community he thinks we can help him achieve this.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221

    I find the need for a large African community thing quite strange without explanation. This club is a leader on anti-racism topics and if there ever was a community club, regardless of background, its Charlton.

    Is there were I say "stop panicking" or "stop pooing your pants" : - )

    I don't think he has said he NEEDS a large African community near the club just that there is one.

    He hasn't even said it is Charlton. People are guessing.

    There are African communities in just about every part of London.

    Millwall, QPR, Orient, West Ham, Palace (both Prem I know) and others.

    Regardless am I going to take the Seriously Red approach of being totally uncritical of what he does, finding evidence somewhere of a brilliant plan and masterful execution and ignoring any negatives.

    We're on the march with Kola's Army
    We all going Premier League
    And we'll really shake them up
    When we win the Champions Cup
    Cos Charlton are Africa's Greatest team

    #smoothride

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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,978

    I find the need for a large African community thing quite strange without explanation. This club is a leader on anti-racism topics and if there ever was a community club, regardless of background, its Charlton.

    Surely it's a little like some of the big Premiership targeting Far Eastern sponsors and players. He recognises that there is a country with millions of football fans that no Premiership club has really tapped up from a marketing point of view yet, so with his African links and our African community he thinks we can help him achieve this.
    You would think he could do that just with his own reputation, without the need of South East London's African community. I'd imagine a lot of football fans in Belgium know RD owns Charlton, I don't see many Flemish around our way.
  • Addickforlife
    Addickforlife Posts: 2,101

    I find the need for a large African community thing quite strange without explanation. This club is a leader on anti-racism topics and if there ever was a community club, regardless of background, its Charlton.

    Surely it's a little like some of the big Premiership targeting Far Eastern sponsors and players. He recognises that there is a country with millions of football fans that no Premiership club has really tapped up from a marketing point of view yet, so with his African links and our African community he thinks we can help him achieve this.
    You would think he could do that just with his own reputation, without the need of South East London's African community. I'd imagine a lot of football fans in Belgium know RD owns Charlton, I don't see many Flemish around our way.
    True.
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,820
    So Roland has this morning sold Standard Liege, and says he is retiring....maybe there is legs in this Kola story?
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989

    I find the need for a large African community thing quite strange without explanation. This club is a leader on anti-racism topics and if there ever was a community club, regardless of background, its Charlton.

    Surely it's a little like some of the big Premiership targeting Far Eastern sponsors and players. He recognises that there is a country with millions of football fans that no Premiership club has really tapped up from a marketing point of view yet, so with his African links and our African community he thinks we can help him achieve this.
    Africa is a much poorer continent than the areas of Asia that the Premier League clubs have targeted. The Premier League is dominated by Middle Eastern and Far Eastern sponsors (Emirates, Samsung etc), and nations like Qatar, Japan, South Korea and so on have millions of people willing and able to pay through the nose for Man Utd shirts, tv subscriptions, etc. That's not the case in Africa - we could be the best supported English club on the entire continent, all it would lead to is mass scale production of bootleg Charlton gear. There's no money to be made there, otherwise Utd, City, Chelsea et al would have tapped into it already.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Very interesting. Wiht SL being sold does it mean Roland is looking to get out of football altogether? Has he decided its too much faff?

    Who knows - but having recently returned from a business trip to South Africa I am a little bit in love with the place. As he says they are fanatical as a continent.

    Could be a good fit. Or he could tear the soul out of the place.

    Who knows what will happen next...........
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034

    Rothko said:

    Just watched the interview. says he's looking at a London non premier League club in an area with a high African population, so us with the big west African community is an obvious, but doesn't mean it couldn't be Brentford or Fulham.

    Have you ever been to Fulham?
    Ha, exactly what I was thinking. Are there many Africans in Brentford either ?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Pedro45 said:

    So Roland has this morning sold Standard Liege, and says he is retiring....maybe there is legs in this Kola story?

    Although the word 'retiring' didn't come from Duchatelet. It came from the reporter. It's also a translation and I assume it means retiring from Standard Liege rather than retiring full stop.
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,820

    Pedro45 said:

    So Roland has this morning sold Standard Liege, and says he is retiring....maybe there is legs in this Kola story?

    Although the word 'retiring' didn't come from Duchatelet. It came from the reporter. It's also a translation and I assume it means retiring from Standard Liege rather than retiring full stop.
    Correct - we don't know if it has been lost in translation. It could mean he is "stepping down", but there were comments about him wanting to give SL the last ten years of his life, and he only has 350 weeks left now...If, and it is a big if, he does have a decent offer from Kola, then selling SL and CAFC would leave him free to concentrate on ST (plus his other minor clubs), which would be a lot less stressful I think!
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    someone who works in hospitality at Arsenal told me about 6 months ago this guy wanted to buy Charlton. He really likes our good reputation for being a community club apparently. did not really take to much notice at the time though.

  • SheffieldRed
    SheffieldRed Posts: 3,772
    MrLargo said:

    I find the need for a large African community thing quite strange without explanation. This club is a leader on anti-racism topics and if there ever was a community club, regardless of background, its Charlton.

    Surely it's a little like some of the big Premiership targeting Far Eastern sponsors and players. He recognises that there is a country with millions of football fans that no Premiership club has really tapped up from a marketing point of view yet, so with his African links and our African community he thinks we can help him achieve this.
    Africa is a much poorer continent than the areas of Asia that the Premier League clubs have targeted. The Premier League is dominated by Middle Eastern and Far Eastern sponsors (Emirates, Samsung etc), and nations like Qatar, Japan, South Korea and so on have millions of people willing and able to pay through the nose for Man Utd shirts, tv subscriptions, etc. That's not the case in Africa - we could be the best supported English club on the entire continent, all it would lead to is mass scale production of bootleg Charlton gear. There's no money to be made there, otherwise Utd, City, Chelsea et al would have tapped into it already.
    Not true

    Overseas fees paid (in millions) for EPL tv rights 2013-2016:
    USA 165
    Japan 24
    Qatar less than 16, exact amount not known
    South Korea 26
    Africa 410
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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I don't believe the concept that you buy Charlton to sell shirts in Africa. However I do buy into the concept that a club in London that behaves positively towards Africa, in a myriad of ways, could garner interest, affection and support both moral and physical from African communities.
    Sometimes things of value are not always measured in pounds shillings and pence.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459

    someone who works in hospitality at Arsenal told me about 6 months ago this guy wanted to buy Charlton. He really likes our good reputation for being a community club apparently. did not really take to much notice at the time though.

    CHECK
    Every takeover thread needs a ' my brothers ,father in laws,sisters,dog' angle. So thanks for that.

    ;-)

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    MrLargo said:

    I find the need for a large African community thing quite strange without explanation. This club is a leader on anti-racism topics and if there ever was a community club, regardless of background, its Charlton.

    Surely it's a little like some of the big Premiership targeting Far Eastern sponsors and players. He recognises that there is a country with millions of football fans that no Premiership club has really tapped up from a marketing point of view yet, so with his African links and our African community he thinks we can help him achieve this.
    Africa is a much poorer continent than the areas of Asia that the Premier League clubs have targeted. The Premier League is dominated by Middle Eastern and Far Eastern sponsors (Emirates, Samsung etc), and nations like Qatar, Japan, South Korea and so on have millions of people willing and able to pay through the nose for Man Utd shirts, tv subscriptions, etc. That's not the case in Africa - we could be the best supported English club on the entire continent, all it would lead to is mass scale production of bootleg Charlton gear. There's no money to be made there, otherwise Utd, City, Chelsea et al would have tapped into it already.
    But Nigeria is the biggest economy in Africa and is richer than Belgium.

    "The revision means Nigeria leapfrogs South Africa to be Africa’s largest economy. It rises to 24th in the list of the world’s big economies, behind Poland and Norway and ahead of Belgium and Taiwan."

    http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21600734-revised-figures-show-nigeria-africas-largest-economy-step-change


    Now that wealth isn't shared as equally as in Belgium or the UK but it is a wealthy country and getting wealthier. So similar to the middle east in some ways and for some of the same reasons ie oil.

    There is a lot of poverty in the far east as well and lots of bootleg gear made out there.

    Personally I don't think it matters as the money is in the Premier League.

    But the pre-season trip to Lagos should be fun.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,998
    Rothko said:
    mmm us or the spanners? although rather unlikely to be them based on past problems with their fans.

    Great to have another takeover rumour :smiley:
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    He's on Twitter @kolakarim. Not too active on there and doesn't follow any football clubs, just the Premier League, tennis players, oil news feeds, Boris, Miliband and Obama.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989

    MrLargo said:

    I find the need for a large African community thing quite strange without explanation. This club is a leader on anti-racism topics and if there ever was a community club, regardless of background, its Charlton.

    Surely it's a little like some of the big Premiership targeting Far Eastern sponsors and players. He recognises that there is a country with millions of football fans that no Premiership club has really tapped up from a marketing point of view yet, so with his African links and our African community he thinks we can help him achieve this.
    Africa is a much poorer continent than the areas of Asia that the Premier League clubs have targeted. The Premier League is dominated by Middle Eastern and Far Eastern sponsors (Emirates, Samsung etc), and nations like Qatar, Japan, South Korea and so on have millions of people willing and able to pay through the nose for Man Utd shirts, tv subscriptions, etc. That's not the case in Africa - we could be the best supported English club on the entire continent, all it would lead to is mass scale production of bootleg Charlton gear. There's no money to be made there, otherwise Utd, City, Chelsea et al would have tapped into it already.
    Not true

    Overseas fees paid (in millions) for EPL tv rights 2013-2016:
    USA 165
    Japan 24
    Qatar less than 16, exact amount not known
    South Korea 26
    Africa 410
    Not sure where you've got those stats from, but both of the following links suggest that your total for Africa includes the Middle East. If there's so much money floating around in Africa, then how come Utd, City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs and so on have completely avoided it on their post-season promotional tours?

    http://www.statista.com/statistics/277566/tv-broadcasting-revenue-premier-league-outside-uk/
    http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2013/09/16/revealed-asia-driving-boom-as-premier-league-foreign-tv-cash-hits-2-23bn-160901/
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Kola Karim is managing director and CEO of Shoreline Energy International, a Nigerian conglomerate with interests in oil and gas, power generation, engineering, commodities trading, infrastructure and construction across sub-Saharan Africa. In 2012, Shoreline Energy partnered with U.K-based Heritage Oil to buy a stake in OML 30, an oilfield in Nigeria, for $850 million. An avid polo player, Karim was named Young Global Leader class of 2008 by the World Economic Forum, Forbes.com reports.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    stonemuse said:

    Rothko said:
    mmm us or the spanners? although rather unlikely to be them based on past problems with their fans.

    Great to have another takeover rumour :smiley:
    Shit time for smallwall to go down. Tee hee.
  • cafc-4-life
    cafc-4-life Posts: 1,305
    My name is Kolo Karim, I come from Nigeria and I can buy...

    What can you buy?

    I buy da football.

    Kolo Kolo Kolo Karim, Kolo Karim.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    Kola Karim is, I suspect, a publicity seeking Klown .. I'd rather be taken over by Coca Cola ... or Krispy Kreems