Good effort for a pre season friendly when you consider that we got that amount for an F A cup third round tie. Those there did a good job as well as my wife and I could hear them from a mile away. Not sure if that's usual as I'm usually inside the ground, but thought that was decent noise for a pre season match.
Indeed, friendlies have changed in the last ten years or so. It used to be that you saw a first team with a few subs towards the end. Now it's often eleven subs at half time and youth and trialists all over the pitch.
The FA Cup has become a 'reserve' outing too in many instances.
Football is no longer a cheap day out so unless it is a proper first team playing a game that both sides really want to win it can come as no surprise that the attendances are modest compared to league games.
I, also, think the club missed a trick by making it the 'Family Day' or, at least announcing it, so late. Had I known earlier I would have brought my son up but by the time they announced it we'd made other plans. The family days are fun but watching us being taken apart by a West Ham reserve side held no appeal for me at all.
Would have probably gone to Chievo, unfortunately I have very little interest in friendlies at any level, it's like playing poker for no money.
Should be a decent turnout against QPR, but if we lose a few early on I can see gates being exceptionally low this season unfortunately.
20,000+ for QPR?
Only with significant giveaways, I'd guess. If there are 10,000 home season tickets and comps and 3,400 aways (the maximum), that's a 6,600 home match sale - two or three times the average, and at higher matchday prices. That's almost unknown, apart from Football for a Fiver.
18,000 would be a good crowd - although if there are a lot of freebies (which I wouldn't expect) anything is possible.
Would have probably gone to Chievo, unfortunately I have very little interest in friendlies at any level, it's like playing poker for no money.
Should be a decent turnout against QPR, but if we lose a few early on I can see gates being exceptionally low this season unfortunately.
20,000+ for QPR?
Only with significant giveaways, I'd guess. If there are 10,000 home season tickets and comps and 3,400 aways (the maximum), that's a 6,600 home match sale - two or three times the average, and at higher matchday prices. That's almost unknown, apart from Football for a Fiver.
18,000 would be a good crowd - although if there are a lot of freebies (which I wouldn't expect) anything is possible.
And there will still be plenty of people on holiday (including ST holders) though they still get counted don't they, even if they are not there?
Would have probably gone to Chievo, unfortunately I have very little interest in friendlies at any level, it's like playing poker for no money.
Should be a decent turnout against QPR, but if we lose a few early on I can see gates being exceptionally low this season unfortunately.
20,000+ for QPR?
Only with significant giveaways, I'd guess. If there are 10,000 home season tickets and comps and 3,400 aways (the maximum), that's a 6,600 home match sale - two or three times the average, and at higher matchday prices. That's almost unknown, apart from Football for a Fiver.
18,000 would be a good crowd - although if there are a lot of freebies (which I wouldn't expect) anything is possible.
And there will still be plenty of people on holiday (including ST holders) though they still get counted don't they, even if they are not there?
Indeed, although it's largely a myth that you get smaller crowds in August anyway. I think holidays are offset by (usually) better weather and new season optimism.
I wasn't expecting any more than 7,000 on Saturday, yes you can say it's prem opposition but I don't think anyone could truly get excited about playing West Ham.
Would have probably gone to Chievo, unfortunately I have very little interest in friendlies at any level, it's like playing poker for no money.
Should be a decent turnout against QPR, but if we lose a few early on I can see gates being exceptionally low this season unfortunately.
20,000+ for QPR?
Only with significant giveaways, I'd guess. If there are 10,000 home season tickets and comps and 3,400 aways (the maximum), that's a 6,600 home match sale - two or three times the average, and at higher matchday prices. That's almost unknown, apart from Football for a Fiver.
18,000 would be a good crowd - although if there are a lot of freebies (which I wouldn't expect) anything is possible.
I thought the freebies had been cut back by the new regime
Pity that season ticket holders were not allowed in as a freebie (or were they ?) .. that would have been a very good marketing ploy as well as a goodwill gesture .. how is the gate money split for these games .. anyone in 'the know' ?
Would have probably gone to Chievo, unfortunately I have very little interest in friendlies at any level, it's like playing poker for no money.
Should be a decent turnout against QPR, but if we lose a few early on I can see gates being exceptionally low this season unfortunately.
20,000+ for QPR?
Only with significant giveaways, I'd guess. If there are 10,000 home season tickets and comps and 3,400 aways (the maximum), that's a 6,600 home match sale - two or three times the average, and at higher matchday prices. That's almost unknown, apart from Football for a Fiver.
18,000 would be a good crowd - although if there are a lot of freebies (which I wouldn't expect) anything is possible.
I thought the freebies had been cut back by the new regime
Probably so, but there have been particular matches when this has been relaxed. I wouldn't expect QPR to be one of them.
Pity that season ticket holders were not allowed in as a freebie (or were they ?) .. that would have been a very good marketing ploy as well as a goodwill gesture .. how is the gate money split for these games .. anyone in 'the know' ?
By agreement, which in turn impinges on giving comps to season-ticket holders. More importantly, the club would probably have made a loss on the game if it let season-ticket holders in for nothing - the net ticket revenue would only be about £50k-£55k from that gate (say roughly 4,500 @ £8.33, 3,500 at £4.16 and 500 comps) as it is. I should think costs were £15-20k, before any police bill.
Pity that season ticket holders were not allowed in as a freebie (or were they ?) .. that would have been a very good marketing ploy as well as a goodwill gesture .. how is the gate money split for these games .. anyone in 'the know' ?
By agreement, which in turn impinges on giving comps to season-ticket holders. More importantly, the club would probably have made a loss on the game if it let season-ticket holders in for nothing - the net ticket revenue would only be about £50k-£55k from that gate (say roughly 4,500 @ £8.33, 3,500 at £4.16 and 500 comps) as it is. I should think costs were £15-20k, before any police bill.
Dont prem teams charge an appearance fee for friendlies these days as well?
Shows what people think of a Pre-Season Friendly compared to the Carling Cup (at any stage) or the FA Cup 3rd Round, the club barely gets anything near 8000 for the Cup matches
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I'm sure it's the same with many others as well.
Should be a decent turnout against QPR, but if we lose a few early on I can see gates being exceptionally low this season unfortunately.
We played Prem League reserve opposition, so none of my lot bothered.
The FA Cup has become a 'reserve' outing too in many instances.
Football is no longer a cheap day out so unless it is a proper first team playing a game that both sides really want to win it can come as no surprise that the attendances are modest compared to league games.
I, also, think the club missed a trick by making it the 'Family Day' or, at least announcing it, so late. Had I known earlier I would have brought my son up but by the time they announced it we'd made other plans. The family days are fun but watching us being taken apart by a West Ham reserve side held no appeal for me at all.
18,000 would be a good crowd - although if there are a lot of freebies (which I wouldn't expect) anything is possible.