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  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,454
    edited February 9
    Apologies for the delay with this, but here are the results of the little predictions competition I put up for the 2025 season. You'll have to just trust me that I made my predictions before the season started like everyone else! I'll put up another one for 2026 closer to the start of the season.

    @sam3110 @ForeverAddickted @CafcWest @MarcusH26 @fenaddick


  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 98,317
    Forgot about those predictions... WTF was I thinking with Ferrari?
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,454
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Forgot about those predictions... WTF was I thinking with Ferrari?
    To be fair - they finished 2024 strongly and should have been able to build on that, but they Ferraried it up good and proper. They're about as reliable as Spurs.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 16,520
    I'll take that
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,345
    Yeah I don't really know why I was so hot on Ferrari 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,469
    Hahahah I really thought Alpine and Ferrari would kick on, silly me
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,469
    Now we've seen all 11 cars' liveries, who's got the best one? 

    I like the Williams, the Haas and the Red Bull
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,175
    I see Newey is trying out some alternative strategies with the aston martin


  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 11,786
    Watching the testing and honestly via the onboards, and sound at track, these regs feel like dog shit early doors.

    They are lifting and coasting all the time, downshifting on straights.

    Fuck sake this is meant to be the pinnacle of balls out racing. I want to see drivers ringing the neck of a car on the physical and mental limit.

    It is like watching installation laps.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,345
    Max already hates the new regs and is threatening to leave.

    https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/max-verstappen-demolishes-anti-racing-not-fun-f1-2026-cars/10797115/

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 98,317
    MarcusH26 said:
    Max already hates the new regs and is threatening to leave.

    https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/max-verstappen-demolishes-anti-racing-not-fun-f1-2026-cars/10797115/
    Shame he didn't hate the last regs that he dominated 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,345
    ForeverAddickted said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Max already hates the new regs and is threatening to leave.

    https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/max-verstappen-demolishes-anti-racing-not-fun-f1-2026-cars/10797115/
    Shame he didn't hate the last regs that he dominated 
    Loved Landos reply 

    A lot of fun. I really enjoyed it," Norris said. "So, yeah, if he wants to retire, he can retire. Formula 1 changes all the time. Sometimes it's a bit better to drive, sometimes it's not as good to drive.

    "We get paid a stupid amount of money to drive, so you can't really complain at the end of the day. Any driver can go and find something else to do. It's not like he has to be here, or any driver has to be here.

    "It's a challenge, but it's a good, fun challenge for the engineers, for the drivers. You have to drive it in a different way, understand and manage things differently, but I still get to drive cars and travel the world and have a lot of fun. So, nothing to complain about."
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,469
    Not just Max that has complained about it, for some balance...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/articles/c70k4zlz7elo
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,454
    MarcusH26 said:
    Max already hates the new regs and is threatening to leave.

    https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/max-verstappen-demolishes-anti-racing-not-fun-f1-2026-cars/10797115/
    No he's not. He says no such thing in the quotes in that article.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 98,317
    So Mercedes might have to change their engine come August, because of the compression...
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 11,786
    edited February 20
    All the usual caveats..... it's only testing...... and sandbags will still be on many cars.

    But Ferrari look fast. Race runs headlined by an insane race sim from Charles in the heat of the day (44c track temps) and off the line they are a joke with their smaller turbo.

    But only testing (trying not to get ahead of myself). How many times have they won the winter championship only to go MIA at the first race.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 98,317
    edited February 20
    Wont be surprised if its Mercedes on top, and they're hiding something at the moment, saw a Graphic the other day suggesting that the Merc is a monster out of the corners compared to the Red Bull, McLaren and Ferrari.
    Equally Ferrari look very strong at the starts as you say Damo, even the Haas with the Ferrari engine looked a bit of a monster during those practices
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,469
    Ferrari on the starts and long runs

    Think Mercedes are still sandbagging a bit and will be decent at places like Australia

    Red Bull apparently harvests and deploys energy more efficiently than the rest, might also be beneficial in the more energy short races like Australia and other higher speed circuits

    Aston Martin and Honda may as well borrow an F2 car for the season
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,175
    Aston Martin will probably come good by race 12
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 98,317
    Alwaysneil said:
    Aston Martin will probably come good by race 12
    Around the time that Honda think: "F**k this, lets leave again"

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  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,345
    Aston potentially limited to 15 race laps only due to severe vibrations. Absolutely embarrassing.  
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,175
    Not good vibrations then
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,345
    Alwaysneil said:
    Not good vibrations then
    No! Not when Adrian Newey starts talking about anymore than that would cause serious nerve damage. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,797
    MarcusH26 said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Max already hates the new regs and is threatening to leave.

    https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/max-verstappen-demolishes-anti-racing-not-fun-f1-2026-cars/10797115/
    Shame he didn't hate the last regs that he dominated 
    Loved Landos reply 

    A lot of fun. I really enjoyed it," Norris said. "So, yeah, if he wants to retire, he can retire. Formula 1 changes all the time. Sometimes it's a bit better to drive, sometimes it's not as good to drive.

    "We get paid a stupid amount of money to drive, so you can't really complain at the end of the day. Any driver can go and find something else to do. It's not like he has to be here, or any driver has to be here.

    "It's a challenge, but it's a good, fun challenge for the engineers, for the drivers. You have to drive it in a different way, understand and manage things differently, but I still get to drive cars and travel the world and have a lot of fun. So, nothing to complain about."
    I guess ultimately he is right, but i don't think the money they get paid should stop drivers voicing discontent at the new regulations if they feel they're to the detriment of actual racing.

    Same as elite level footballers who complain about too many games. Yes they get paid a fortune, but it shouldn't mean they can't express concerns at scheduling and more and more games meaning they play every 3-4 days for 10 months.
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 887
    edited 2:52AM
    Extraordinary news that the Honda issue is that the engine vibrates so much that it is shaking the car apart and cant do more than 25 laps, after that potentially giving the drivers permanent or long term nerve damage. Amazing that vibration hasn't been identified as a potential problem with all the dyno testing and cad design before now.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,345
    Makes me wonder if this is another Newey packaging disaster like he's been prone to in the past , the way Alonso and Stroll have described it is absolutely terrifying. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 16,520
    MarcusH26 said:
    Makes me wonder if this is another Newey packaging disaster like he's been prone to in the past , the way Alonso and Stroll have described it is absolutely terrifying. 
    Strikes me as someone used to designing in an elite environment who hadn't considered that the things outside of his hands wouldn't be designed to the same standard so now everything is suffering
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,345
    fenaddick said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Makes me wonder if this is another Newey packaging disaster like he's been prone to in the past , the way Alonso and Stroll have described it is absolutely terrifying. 
    Strikes me as someone used to designing in an elite environment who hadn't considered that the things outside of his hands wouldn't be designed to the same standard so now everything is suffering
    This is probably close to the truth. I think also making him Team Principal is an absolutely bizarre decision that will backfire halfway through the season if the car is still terrible. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,469
    He's also trying to tell everyone they have the 5th best chassis on the grid currently and if it wasn't for the vibrations they'd be Q3 material and development would put them at the front midway through the year.

    Yeah but if your engine shakes it so much it breaks, and it's all to do with your overall minimalist design philosophy, you can have a chassis that's 20x more efficient than everyone else and it doesn't matter

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