Now that would make more sense and grow a greater positive media attention than 200 dirty Leeds coming down for a bit of fun whilst pretending to be your mate
The argument is lost when it becomes personal abuse, this fight wont be won by anger and angry reactions,
When I coached football I installed what I learnt whilst growing up a calm fighter beats an angry fighter, you need to keep your head whilst all around are losing theirs
Just on this thread alone the anger is coming out and the battle being lost,
The argument is lost when it becomes personal abuse, this fight wont be won by anger and angry reactions,
When I coached football I installed what I learnt whilst growing up a calm fighter beats an angry fighter, you need to keep your head whilst all around are losing theirs
Just on this thread alone the anger is coming out and the battle being lost,
"If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation"
You need structure wisdom and brains to achieve the aim, do you want the ground smashed up and fighting because you invited them to come inside and assist,
Think about the real reaction of what some of their prick fans could do whilst pretending to be cafc
Probably the most productive assistance you will get from anyone the advice above
I think you'll find Leeds fans and their supporters trust are very well organised and have come close to taking ownership of their club. Millwall of the north you say? So what? Do you honestly think Roland would have got away with half the nonsense he's pulled here at Millwall? Not a chance.
There are loads of ideas which all have their own merit and as someone has already stated, cant be planned or discussed on a public forum. So are we going to plan a meeting for this early next week to plan and get some ideas together? How is it coming on with the CL Groups for private chat - @AFKABartram@LoOkOuT ? Would we be bale to use this group facility instead of a meeting or alongside?
You need structure wisdom and brains to achieve the aim, do you want the ground smashed up and fighting because you invited them to come inside and assist,
Think about the real reaction of what some of their prick fans could do whilst pretending to be cafc
Probably the most productive assistance you will get from anyone the advice above
Leeds are not nearly as bad as Millwall, they used to be, but not anymore.
They have proactive fan groups now who are decent supporters just like this.
Like I said it's not the world's best idea and it laced with potential problems but there are plenty on both sides in unity over this, you might be surprised. They say rival fans can't come together and her 'disgusting' label tonight played on old adage, work hard and we could prove her wrong in many ways.
First off we don't jump to any conclusions about the fans at the meeting tonight. Meire is a lawyer so we can expect her to have been controlling the meeting in every way and we can't guarantee the tweets from the press to be 100% reflect the situation in the room - they were real time with little time for reflection and had to fit in 140 characters.
Second we form a united front. No divisions, factions or infighting. If they divide us they conquer.
Third we play her at her own game and we communicate. We get a clear and unambiguous message and we stay consistent and spin the hell out of it with the press and turn this to our advantage.
Fourthly, we turn up at the Valley. Not to create attendance numbers for Meire to use but in order to be vocal. We coordinate our chanting and our message and if we want to boycott anything we don't buy food, drink or programmes and patronise the burger stands outside.
Fifth we have to be prepared that if things improve on the pitch which of course they could do, it makes out argument harder. We need to continue to hone and shout that message, keeping it clear and unambiguous.
And lastly, whatever we do let's keep it realistic, legal and decent. If we want to be heard we need to ensure there are no comebacks. No need to get personal at Katrien: even if we think very little of her, slagging her off only hands her a spot on the moral high ground and we lose ours. It already looks like she has managed to turn round the insults that were sent her way on Saturday against us - let's not give her the pleasure again.
There are loads of ideas which all have their own merit and as someone has already stated, cant be planned or discussed on a public forum. So are we going to plan a meeting for this early next week to plan and get some ideas together? How is it coming on with the CL Groups for private chat - @AFKABartram@LoOkOuT ? Would we be bale to use this group facility instead of a meeting or alongside?
Got a couple of issues to work out... will be a few days unfortunately.
Drone with a banner hovering just high enough above the pitch for nobody to be able to get it down and in eye sight of the sky cameras would be amazing
Drone with a banner hovering just high enough above the pitch for nobody to be able to get it down and in eye sight of the sky cameras would be amazing
Plane with a banner would be affordable and get impact but as some have rightly questioned can you get a light aircraft over the valley? Flight path may be problematic but my old man flew a plane over the valley once. I will call them tomorrow to check.
Plane with a banner would be affordable and get impact but as some have rightly questioned can you get a light aircraft over the valley? Flight path may be problematic but my old man flew a plane over the valley once. I will call them tomorrow to check.
I can't see beyond something that disrupts the game - like shit loads of tennis balls being thrown on at once. Then when the game is stopped to clear them some big clear, concise banners are held up with whatever messages we want to portray.
They can't ban everyone or chuck everyone out - it will be like the Leicester leaflet moment, but live on tv and with a message to follow that would be picked up on!!
Tbh I much prefer the everyone walk out after x amount of minutes but you only have to look on here to see how some can't even make that sacrifice or upset the players by not supporting them for a one-off, so no chance of a meaningful amount of fans committing to that.
If you want to hurt roly without impacting the team you need to hit his pocket, to do that you could cist him a few grand a game by staying behind and protesting as well as doing it before the match but come ko support the players for 90 mins,
If you want to hurt roly without impacting the team you need to hit his pocket, to do that you could cist him a few grand a game by staying behind and protesting as well as doing it before the match but come ko support the players for 90 mins,
Not a problem with that however One game of not supporting them for the full 90mins won't make an ounce of difference, especially the way they have performed of late and all the big support days in our history achieved diddly so I'm really not fussed it we don't get behind them for a part of just one game in our history.
And I really don't think hitting him in the pocket will make a difference cos he's worth billions, but I'll be doing that as always as prefer to have a pint in the pub.
We need to ramp up the police costs, not spend a penny in the ground, disrupt games.. How about a marching protest? If it picks up the club will want/need to police it. Also to target KM we need to put her in the limelight, theres a good way of doing this but I'll wait to say it, not right here.
What was obvious is that she is trying to dilute the protests by giving the impression that it is a vocal but foul-mouthed minority. Those who yelled abuse did us no favours. I have to hope the apology for the fans from the floor was a plant as well.
Short term, even medium term, Roland is going nowhere and is immune from what's happening. Illogical though it is, my real venom at the moment is towards that woman and all she stands for and does. She should be the target of the fans' anger. Nothing personal, nothing abusive, but full on nonetheless. I have a horrible feeling she will be smug as you can get after tonight. We have to quickly prick that balloon. As for Murray ... such a shame but that well of goodwill is dry.
Don't disrupt games that's gonna just affect the players
So what? Dy really think they give a stuff about us?? For one (tv) game I don't see why people care if the players are affected - is there not a bigger issue at stake here than the poor players??
Dont want to go into too much detail but, in the not too distant past I was involved in a 'Leverage Campaign' against Bam, Ferrovial and Kier. We targeted their interests, their share holders, their overseas contracts. Everywhere they were found to be, so was we.
Don't disrupt games that's gonna just affect the players
I couldn't care less for the players. They are not fans of our football club, once their contract is over they may look out for our scores but that's where the line is drawn .
They get paid handsomely, if they are delayed by 20 mins then I won't shed a tear.
If we're loud and proud supporting the team at every match, KM will be laughing as week in week out we kick up a little fus then return to habits and go support the team and coach regardless.. (although she would be whatever the situation the unprofessional insert word here).
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There are loads of ideas which all have their own merit and as someone has already stated, cant be planned or discussed on a public forum.
So are we going to plan a meeting for this early next week to plan and get some ideas together?
How is it coming on with the CL Groups for private chat - @AFKABartram @LoOkOuT ?
Would we be bale to use this group facility instead of a meeting or alongside?
They have proactive fan groups now who are decent supporters just like this.
Like I said it's not the world's best idea and it laced with potential problems but there are plenty on both sides in unity over this, you might be surprised. They say rival fans can't come together and her 'disgusting' label tonight played on old adage, work hard and we could prove her wrong in many ways.
First off we don't jump to any conclusions about the fans at the meeting tonight. Meire is a lawyer so we can expect her to have been controlling the meeting in every way and we can't guarantee the tweets from the press to be 100% reflect the situation in the room - they were real time with little time for reflection and had to fit in 140 characters.
Second we form a united front. No divisions, factions or infighting. If they divide us they conquer.
Third we play her at her own game and we communicate. We get a clear and unambiguous message and we stay consistent and spin the hell out of it with the press and turn this to our advantage.
Fourthly, we turn up at the Valley. Not to create attendance numbers for Meire to use but in order to be vocal. We coordinate our chanting and our message and if we want to boycott anything we don't buy food, drink or programmes and patronise the burger stands outside.
Fifth we have to be prepared that if things improve on the pitch which of course they could do, it makes out argument harder. We need to continue to hone and shout that message, keeping it clear and unambiguous.
And lastly, whatever we do let's keep it realistic, legal and decent. If we want to be heard we need to ensure there are no comebacks. No need to get personal at Katrien: even if we think very little of her, slagging her off only hands her a spot on the moral high ground and we lose ours. It already looks like she has managed to turn round the insults that were sent her way on Saturday against us - let's not give her the pleasure again.
Roland out.
Meire out.
We want OUR Charlton back.
I won't be arguing with anyone as I said later on the same idea with Brighton would be more of a positive resolution
Do as you please but whilst only 300 turned up to a peaceful demonstration, you will keep more away inviting a set of fans like Leeds
They can't ban everyone or chuck everyone out - it will be like the Leicester leaflet moment, but live on tv and with a message to follow that would be picked up on!!
Tbh I much prefer the everyone walk out after x amount of minutes but you only have to look on here to see how some can't even make that sacrifice or upset the players by not supporting them for a one-off, so no chance of a meaningful amount of fans committing to that.
And I really don't think hitting him in the pocket will make a difference cos he's worth billions, but I'll be doing that as always as prefer to have a pint in the pub.
Everywhere they were found to be, so was we.
They get paid handsomely, if they are delayed by 20 mins then I won't shed a tear.
If we're loud and proud supporting the team at every match, KM will be laughing as week in week out we kick up a little fus then return to habits and go support the team and coach regardless.. (although she would be whatever the situation the unprofessional insert word here).