doesn't help that people entering via the Sam Bartram entrance don't always have their ST Cards scanned. Used it twice this season and it wasn't scanned although it seems to be some turnstiles and not others.
This is starting to sound like all the extra time/effort/money deciding the prices and marketing season tickets isn't getting any real uptake, just encouraging the tubbies to buy up surrounding seats at cheap rates
Yes, we only need 10000 really fat people to sell out the ground :-)
This is starting to sound like all the extra time/effort/money deciding the prices and marketing season tickets isn't getting any real uptake, just encouraging the tubbies to buy up surrounding seats at cheap rates
Yes, we only need 10000 really fat people to sell out the ground :-)
KM's policy makes sense. Out with the old, in with the fat.
They'll have to increase the number of chips per portion though.
This is starting to sound like all the extra time/effort/money deciding the prices and marketing season tickets isn't getting any real uptake, just encouraging the tubbies to buy up surrounding seats at cheap rates
Yes, we only need 10000 really fat people to sell out the ground :-)
KM's policy makes sense. Out with the old, in with the fat.
They'll have to increase the number of chips per portion though.
Hang on I'm old and fat where do I stand (sit) am I in or out?
never understood people who buy a ST and then just don't bother going, whatever I think of the current regime etc I buy a ST to support the team.
all the current talk of boycotts etc, surely the team need our support more now than ever given our position.
by all means protest etc...I will have a black and white scarf and the kids balloons but the team desperately need the fans backing
I certainly don't want to see us playing in league 1 again
Can only speak for myself, my stepson and friend, who all bought season tickets this season: we have a 150 mile return journey, which takes up most of a Saturday. That plus the costs (petrol, food and a drink) means that the day is high-cost. We had been to all home games prior to Sheff Wed, and went to MK Dons away game, and decided that the potential enjoyment, verses the aforementioned costs, simply was not good value.
We are still undecided about attending the Ipswich home game.
What is the chance, given the data migration problems with the new database, that any figures comparing this and last season are an 'approximation' ?
Seeing as we've now had three different figures for new season ticket holders then I would say that's definitely a possibility (1,500 on OS prior to season start, 1400 from FF, 1100 from meeting the other night).
Following last week's fans' meeting, Steve Clarke has met with Richard Murray and Katrien Meire to discuss how the strategic objectives outlined that evening can be taken forward.
The Club is keen to emphasise the progress being made behind these objectives and the Supporters' Trust recognises that and supports the concepts. However the current frustration of fans emphasises that this is just the beginning and there is a need for more demonstrable action.
After some discussion between Richard, Katrien and Steve, the following ideas were outlined:
- Target 20,000 - The group will look to draw on the extensive experience of those who have worked with the Club on a similar basis in the past together with seeking contributions from across our entire fan base in order to give the initiative the widest possible focus.
- A group to look at strategic development, involving senior Club staff and fans - with the potential to bring in support from the wider Charlton community aiming to capture additional business acumen, specialist skills and fresh ideas.
- Fans' Forum - examine the role the group should play in a revamped structure and how it can contribute to projects such as Target 20,000. Also to consider how the overall supporters experience can be improved, alongside addressing day to day issues as and when they occur.
The Trust welcomes these developments and believes this signals valuable progress. But, we must not hide from the views of our members and many other supporters. The mood is that fans want change.
We think the above plan is a start. It now needs action and we are committed to engage in this process, making sure we communicate regularly along the way.
Following last week's fans' meeting, Steve Clarke has met with Richard Murray and Katrien Meire to discuss how the strategic objectives outlined that evening can be taken forward.
The Club is keen to emphasise the progress being made behind these objectives and the Supporters' Trust recognises that and supports the concepts. However the current frustration of fans emphasises that this is just the beginning and there is a need for more demonstrable action.
After some discussion between Richard, Katrien and Steve, the following ideas were outlined:
- Target 20,000 - The group will look to draw on the extensive experience of those who have worked with the Club on a similar basis in the past together with seeking contributions from across our entire fan base in order to give the initiative the widest possible focus.
- A group to look at strategic development, involving senior Club staff and fans - with the potential to bring in support from the wider Charlton community aiming to capture additional business acumen, specialist skills and fresh ideas.
- Fans' Forum - examine the role the group should play in a revamped structure and how it can contribute to projects such as Target 20,000. Also to consider how the overall supporters experience can be improved, alongside addressing day to day issues as and when they occur.
The Trust welcomes these developments and believes this signals valuable progress. But, we must not hide from the views of our members and many other supporters. The mood is that fans want change.
We think the above plan is a start. It now needs action and we are committed to engage in this process, making sure we communicate regularly along the way.
None of those points are about football.
I don't really care about being 'involved' in getting more people in the ground. I want to hear about the stopping of the nonsense player/management pan european moneyball merry go round and that they can admit that it's obviously not working. Start changing that and the attendances will increase. No need for a committee then
Following last week's fans' meeting, Steve Clarke has met with Richard Murray and Katrien Meire to discuss how the strategic objectives outlined that evening can be taken forward.
The Club is keen to emphasise the progress being made behind these objectives and the Supporters' Trust recognises that and supports the concepts. However the current frustration of fans emphasises that this is just the beginning and there is a need for more demonstrable action.
After some discussion between Richard, Katrien and Steve, the following ideas were outlined:
- Target 20,000 - The group will look to draw on the extensive experience of those who have worked with the Club on a similar basis in the past together with seeking contributions from across our entire fan base in order to give the initiative the widest possible focus.
- A group to look at strategic development, involving senior Club staff and fans - with the potential to bring in support from the wider Charlton community aiming to capture additional business acumen, specialist skills and fresh ideas.
- Fans' Forum - examine the role the group should play in a revamped structure and how it can contribute to projects such as Target 20,000. Also to consider how the overall supporters experience can be improved, alongside addressing day to day issues as and when they occur.
The Trust welcomes these developments and believes this signals valuable progress. But, we must not hide from the views of our members and many other supporters. The mood is that fans want change.
We think the above plan is a start. It now needs action and we are committed to engage in this process, making sure we communicate regularly along the way.
None of those points are about football.
I don't really care about being 'involved' in getting more people in the ground. I want to hear about the stopping of the nonsense player/management pan european moneyball merry go round and that they can admit that it's obviously not working. Start changing that and the attendances will increase. No need for a committee then
Not a perspective I am afraid that I share Mrbligh, at least in regard to football.
Of course that is your right not to want to get 'involved' no one is demanding that you have to are they?.
Following last week's fans' meeting, Steve Clarke has met with Richard Murray and Katrien Meire to discuss how the strategic objectives outlined that evening can be taken forward.
The Club is keen to emphasise the progress being made behind these objectives and the Supporters' Trust recognises that and supports the concepts. However the current frustration of fans emphasises that this is just the beginning and there is a need for more demonstrable action.
After some discussion between Richard, Katrien and Steve, the following ideas were outlined:
- Target 20,000 - The group will look to draw on the extensive experience of those who have worked with the Club on a similar basis in the past together with seeking contributions from across our entire fan base in order to give the initiative the widest possible focus.
- A group to look at strategic development, involving senior Club staff and fans - with the potential to bring in support from the wider Charlton community aiming to capture additional business acumen, specialist skills and fresh ideas.
- Fans' Forum - examine the role the group should play in a revamped structure and how it can contribute to projects such as Target 20,000. Also to consider how the overall supporters experience can be improved, alongside addressing day to day issues as and when they occur.
The Trust welcomes these developments and believes this signals valuable progress. But, we must not hide from the views of our members and many other supporters. The mood is that fans want change.
We think the above plan is a start. It now needs action and we are committed to engage in this process, making sure we communicate regularly along the way.
None of those points are about football.
I don't really care about being 'involved' in getting more people in the ground. I want to hear about the stopping of the nonsense player/management pan european moneyball merry go round and that they can admit that it's obviously not working. Start changing that and the attendances will increase. No need for a committee then
Not a perspective I am afraid that I share Mrbligh, at least in regard to football.
Of course that is your right not to want to get 'involved' no one is demanding that you have to are they?.
Indeed, but clearly most fans want to see things working on the field and want us to stop flirting with relegation season after season I would think. I firmly believe that a partnership between the club and the fans is necessary, but it's only a part of the solution. The bulk of the responsibility here lies with the club and unless we all have a whip round, we aren't going be able to influence their recruitment policy and/or budget (if required).
Following last week's fans' meeting, Steve Clarke has met with Richard Murray and Katrien Meire to discuss how the strategic objectives outlined that evening can be taken forward...
Well I guess that's a positive, except that it indicates to me that these weren't real objectives at all but just stuff that KM made up on the hoof when she realised there was actually a job of work to do.
Worrying for the club how such a high percentage are willing to pay a lot for the season and can't be bothered to actually get the value for the money .
KM doesn't seem that worried about it and I think that is because she/they were perhaps half expecting it. At the end of the day, football is a luxury. It is both a financial luxury and a time luxury. My family have 3 season ticket. We've been to 3 games all season and have no intention of going to anymore at the current time.
That is because, we are not getting enjoyment from our little bit of 'luxury'! If women don't like their spa day, they don't go again. If you don't like your holiday in Spain, you don't go again the following year.....if you don't like what's going on at your club and the team aren't performing, you do something else on a Saturday. Its simple really. Football and particularly attendances, are all subject to how well the team is doing. We're currently in a relegation battle with an owner and a CEO who are deeply unpopular and not trusted, a revolving door of inept managers, and the club are scratching the heads as to why the attendance is so bad and embarking on a completely unrealistic target of attracting 20,000 fans?
If KM and RD want to reach their target of 20,000 fans, there is no quicker way than by winning games. Simple.
As a matter of interest, how do our no-shows as a percentage compare with similar clubs (such as, gulp, Millwall etc). It seems very high. It's obvious when attendances are announced that they are almost a figure plucked out the air - the banks of empty seats speak volumes - so how can we find more accurate numbers?
As a matter of interest, how do our no-shows as a percentage compare with similar clubs (such as, gulp, Millwall etc). It seems very high. It's obvious when attendances are announced that they are almost a figure plucked out the air - the banks of empty seats speak volumes - so how can we find more accurate numbers?
Our 'no shows' are very low. Probably due to the fact that we don't do these ridiculously silly ST deals. With most ST deals at Millwall it only works out you're getting something like 3 or 4 free games anyway. And most fans tend to miss that many games (and a couple more) a season anyway so a big percentage of our lot prefer to just pay on the day. This showed in that list that came out recently charting match day revenue Millwall faired higher than a lot of seemingly bigger clubs, including Charlton.
This isn't meant as a dig but although you like to label us with the 'Smallwall' tag, I reckon that once you strip both our support back to the bare bones, including the 'Johnny-come-latelys' who turned up during your Prem years (and we all know those type of fans don't have any staying power) then I reckon our hardcore support isn't too dissimilar.
Following last week's fans' meeting, Steve Clarke has met with Richard Murray and Katrien Meire to discuss how the strategic objectives outlined that evening can be taken forward.
The Club is keen to emphasise the progress being made behind these objectives and the Supporters' Trust recognises that and supports the concepts. However the current frustration of fans emphasises that this is just the beginning and there is a need for more demonstrable action.
After some discussion between Richard, Katrien and Steve, the following ideas were outlined:
- Target 20,000 - The group will look to draw on the extensive experience of those who have worked with the Club on a similar basis in the past together with seeking contributions from across our entire fan base in order to give the initiative the widest possible focus.
- A group to look at strategic development, involving senior Club staff and fans - with the potential to bring in support from the wider Charlton community aiming to capture additional business acumen, specialist skills and fresh ideas.
- Fans' Forum - examine the role the group should play in a revamped structure and how it can contribute to projects such as Target 20,000. Also to consider how the overall supporters experience can be improved, alongside addressing day to day issues as and when they occur.
The Trust welcomes these developments and believes this signals valuable progress. But, we must not hide from the views of our members and many other supporters. The mood is that fans want change.
We think the above plan is a start. It now needs action and we are committed to engage in this process, making sure we communicate regularly along the way.
None of those points are about football.
I don't really care about being 'involved' in getting more people in the ground. I want to hear about the stopping of the nonsense player/management pan european moneyball merry go round and that they can admit that it's obviously not working. Start changing that and the attendances will increase. No need for a committee then
This. Everything else is hot air while the football is so badly run. Someone tell them what the FC stands for. It's why people go to games, not sodding sofás!!!
This isn't meant as a dig but although you like to label us with the 'Smallwall' tag, I reckon that once you strip both our support back to the bare bones, including the 'Johnny-come-latelys' who turned up during your Prem years (and we all know those type of fans don't have any staying power) then I reckon our hardcore support isn't too dissimilar.
Was struck yesterday by all the empty seats. This runs deeper than just bad performances by the team. So much bad feeling towards the Belgiums and rightly so. Being part of the network, it feels we have no ambition as an individual club anymore. We will never progress as promising youngsters will be sold off for peanuts and replaced by the likes of Sarr. Any profits made go into the network! Being an avid Charlton fan means I don't want to spend my money supporting other clubs. This is the problem I have and this is why it doesn't feel like my Charlton anymore. I went with my son yesterday and to be honest don't know when our next game will be!
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They'll have to increase the number of chips per portion though.
We are still undecided about attending the Ipswich home game.
Following last week's fans' meeting, Steve Clarke has met with Richard Murray and Katrien Meire to discuss how the strategic objectives outlined that evening can be taken forward.
The Club is keen to emphasise the progress being made behind these objectives and the Supporters' Trust recognises that and supports the concepts. However the current frustration of fans emphasises that this is just the beginning and there is a need for more demonstrable action.
After some discussion between Richard, Katrien and Steve, the following ideas were outlined:
- Target 20,000 - The group will look to draw on the extensive experience of those who have worked with the Club on a similar basis in the past together with seeking contributions from across our entire fan base in order to give the initiative the widest possible focus.
- A group to look at strategic development, involving senior Club staff and fans - with the potential to bring in support from the wider Charlton community aiming to capture additional business acumen, specialist skills and fresh ideas.
- Fans' Forum - examine the role the group should play in a revamped structure and how it can contribute to projects such as Target 20,000. Also to consider how the overall supporters experience can be improved, alongside addressing day to day issues as and when they occur.
The Trust welcomes these developments and believes this signals valuable progress. But, we must not hide from the views of our members and many other supporters. The mood is that fans want change.
We think the above plan is a start. It now needs action and we are committed to engage in this process, making sure we communicate regularly along the way.
Good luck with that !
I don't really care about being 'involved' in getting more people in the ground. I want to hear about the stopping of the nonsense player/management pan european moneyball merry go round and that they can admit that it's obviously not working. Start changing that and the attendances will increase. No need for a committee then
Of course that is your right not to want to get 'involved' no one is demanding that you have to are they?.
That is because, we are not getting enjoyment from our little bit of 'luxury'! If women don't like their spa day, they don't go again. If you don't like your holiday in Spain, you don't go again the following year.....if you don't like what's going on at your club and the team aren't performing, you do something else on a Saturday. Its simple really. Football and particularly attendances, are all subject to how well the team is doing. We're currently in a relegation battle with an owner and a CEO who are deeply unpopular and not trusted, a revolving door of inept managers, and the club are scratching the heads as to why the attendance is so bad and embarking on a completely unrealistic target of attracting 20,000 fans?
If KM and RD want to reach their target of 20,000 fans, there is no quicker way than by winning games. Simple.