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Another Bitter Ex-Employee (Michael Morrison)

WSS
WSS Posts: 25,083
edited November 2015 in General Charlton
http://www.southlondon-today.co.uk/article.cfm?id=114561&headline=Michael Morrison opens up about Charlton Athletic exit and sadness at his old club's situation&sectionIs=sport&searchyear=2015

On his transfer:

“I read that it was put as undisclosed at the time,” he said. “It makes no difference to me, but there wasn’t a fee. I had a verbal agreement which they honoured.”

On Fraye:

“Jose did everything - not because Karel couldn’t do anything. I’m sure Jose listened to Karel and that they made plans together, but Jose was very hands-on.”
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,889
    edited November 2015
    Don't see him as being bitter about the situation...

    Like what you've posted they're interesting comments about Fraeye but as Morrison says: We didn’t have much training, because we had eight games in the space of 28 days in April. There were a lot of video sessions, which the manager took

    Shame Michael doesn't give his full opinion on the move to Romania and Astra Giurgiu
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,495

    Don't see him as being bitter about the situation...

    Like what you've posted they're interesting comments about Fraeye but as Morrison says: We didn’t have much training, because we had eight games in the space of 28 days in April. There were a lot of video sessions, which the manager took

    Shame Michael doesn't give his full opinion on the move to Romania and Astra Giurgiu

    Woosh
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,836
    edited November 2015
    WSS said:



    “Jose did everything - not because Karel couldn’t do anything. I’m sure Jose listened to Karel and that they made plans together, but Jose was very hands-on.”

    Is this interview from the reader's wives section of Razzle?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,077
    Probably the maddest transfer ever
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    MrLargo said:

    No fee involved, for a player of that quality. Scandalous. After 3 months without a win, with Bikey looking like a complete liability and Onyewu apparently still not considered good enough to replace him, do we think Pinocchio was cursing herself for letting a £1million asset go for nothing or heartily congratulating herself for trimming a few more quid off the wage bill?

    #BelgiansOut

    Just reading this, and I clean forgot that Onyewu played for us. I even had to google him to make sure.
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,414
    As a CAFC fan that's a hard read, but I think we all know what the Belgians are up to by now.

    Interesting that Morro mentions the car park protest - now you can see why the Belgians don't like it !
  • Hammer. Nail. Head.

    Always liked Morro, would take him back in a hearbeat. More smoke and mirrors from the board, as if we ever needed more evidence.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600

    MrLargo said:

    No fee involved, for a player of that quality. Scandalous. After 3 months without a win, with Bikey looking like a complete liability and Onyewu apparently still not considered good enough to replace him, do we think Pinocchio was cursing herself for letting a £1million asset go for nothing or heartily congratulating herself for trimming a few more quid off the wage bill?

    #BelgiansOut

    Just reading this, and I clean forgot that Onyewu played for us. I even had to google him to make sure.
    I also noticed he played for Standard Liege as well..... Never knew that either - who would have thought it.

  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,673
    MrLargo said:

    No fee involved, for a player of that quality. Scandalous. After 3 months without a win, with Bikey looking like a complete liability and Onyewu apparently still not considered good enough to replace him, do we think Pinocchio was cursing herself for letting a £1million asset go for nothing or heartily congratulating herself for trimming a few more quid off the wage bill?

    #BelgiansOut

    it does say that we honoured an agreement. maybe this agreement was made when he signed his new contract, at which point he was a free agent anyway, that he could go for free if certain conditions existed, such as not playing. If we hadn't agreed he would have left on a free anyway so don't see an issue.


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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,298
    edited November 2015
    "Last week I outlined that our key strategic objective is to make Charlton a competitive Championship club with Premier League ambitions. Underpinning that objective our other targets include:
    - To be successful in our recruitment, retention and trading of players
    - To have a stable, financial policy which also is successful in growing our commercial base
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,074
    definitely a mistake letting him go
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,356
    Who cares what an ex-player thinks? It would have been great if he'd stayed. But he'd have been out of contract soon anyway. What's more important is who's here now, and who's coming next.
  • Hex
    Hex Posts: 1,900

    MrLargo said:

    No fee involved, for a player of that quality. Scandalous. After 3 months without a win, with Bikey looking like a complete liability and Onyewu apparently still not considered good enough to replace him, do we think Pinocchio was cursing herself for letting a £1million asset go for nothing or heartily congratulating herself for trimming a few more quid off the wage bill?

    #BelgiansOut

    it does say that we honoured an agreement. maybe this agreement was made when he signed his new contract, at which point he was a free agent anyway, that he could go for free if certain conditions existed, such as not playing. If we hadn't agreed he would have left on a free anyway so don't see an issue.

    So why announce it as "undisclosed" ?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,298
    Jimmy Stone ‏@JimmyStone_ 2m2 minutes ago
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    Morro came and asked me if I had heard anything about the Astra move. He felt the club were orchestrating it. Sad.
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,735

    MrLargo said:

    No fee involved, for a player of that quality. Scandalous. After 3 months without a win, with Bikey looking like a complete liability and Onyewu apparently still not considered good enough to replace him, do we think Pinocchio was cursing herself for letting a £1million asset go for nothing or heartily congratulating herself for trimming a few more quid off the wage bill?

    #BelgiansOut

    it does say that we honoured an agreement. maybe this agreement was made when he signed his new contract, at which point he was a free agent anyway, that he could go for free if certain conditions existed, such as not playing. If we hadn't agreed he would have left on a free anyway so don't see an issue.

    This still doesn't make any sense to me. Surely the point of getting a player to sign a contract is to protect the value of the club's asset, but they just gave him away to a competitor in the same division. Someone please explain the cunning masterplan behind this move because a year later I still can't see it.

    I'm glad Morro is sorted though, he always seemed a top bloke (although he wasn't much of a right back!)
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,298
    colin1961 said:

    He was third choice and asked to leave .... is there really a story there
    Again someone trying to make something out of nothing

    Except he's just said that he didn't ask to leave until after the club were touting him around to obscure Romanian clubs

    Again someone not being able to see anything that doesn't tally with his preconceived version of events
  • stonemuse said:

    definitely a mistake letting him go

    Not necessarily, it was a mistake not to replace him with someone better and ensure sufficient squad depth.
  • kings hill addick
    kings hill addick Posts: 5,781
    edited November 2015

    "Last week I outlined that our key strategic objective is to make Charlton a competitive Championship club with Premier League ambitions. Underpinning that objective our other targets include:
    - To be successful in our recruitment, retention and trading of players
    - To have a stable, financial policy which also is successful in growing our commercial base

    That's fine but as Large says above he agreed to sign a two year deal as a regular in the first team. It's not surprising that he would have had a release clause if he's not playing and it was thought (I believe incorrectly) that he wasn't first choice for us. His exit, presumably, suited all parties. He got to play elsewhere, we got him off the wage bill and it enabled the manager to use his wages on someone else.

    On the basis that I thought (I would say knew but that sounds arrogant) that he was our best centre half (bearing in mind that Bikey and TBH were over 30) letting him go was a mistake, but the club obviously thought otherwise. Clearly I'm ignoring Joe Gomez in this as it was clear that he wasn't going to stay with us for long.

    So I think the only mistake, in terms of the stated strategic plans, was that those running the club had insufficient ability to spot and/or value talent - something that I think is the root of most of our problems!

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,298

    stonemuse said:

    definitely a mistake letting him go

    Not necessarily, it was a mistake not to replace him with someone better and ensure sufficient squad depth.
    Agreed but all the other CHs who were ahead of him or replaced him have gone.

    We still don't have sufficient squad depth while Morro is captaining a top six side.
  • he wasn't the greatest but a fully committed player and part of some real good times and you felt a bit of pride in the club with the likes of him , Kermo and SCP involved
    now paaaah chuff
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,475
    Hex said:

    MrLargo said:

    No fee involved, for a player of that quality. Scandalous. After 3 months without a win, with Bikey looking like a complete liability and Onyewu apparently still not considered good enough to replace him, do we think Pinocchio was cursing herself for letting a £1million asset go for nothing or heartily congratulating herself for trimming a few more quid off the wage bill?

    #BelgiansOut

    it does say that we honoured an agreement. maybe this agreement was made when he signed his new contract, at which point he was a free agent anyway, that he could go for free if certain conditions existed, such as not playing. If we hadn't agreed he would have left on a free anyway so don't see an issue.

    So why announce it as "undisclosed" ?
    It looks better than saying free transfer. Same reason the club claimed we got an undisclosed fee for Lepoint (the FA website says different).
  • Since the new regime, every player (with Gomez as the exception) that has signed permanently / been sold on has either been free or undisclosed.
  • We should never got rid of Morro but I'm sure the majority on here were not bothered about it at the time that he was let go!
  • Paddy7
    Paddy7 Posts: 1,663
    Good insightful piece. He doesn't come across as bitter at all; more just a little sad about how things unfolded.

    Interesting that Rowett was prepared to take on an experienced player he knew little about and work with him / improve him to captain a team currently sitting in the play-off positions. To me that Brum team shows what can be achieved in this division with a moderate squad coached well into an effective unit by a bright young manager who knows his environment.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,239
    The conclusion to this must be they got rid of Morrison,
    Because of the wages and they had a cheaper option. (Onyewu)
    why didn't they realize that Michael at 26, was still improving ?
    Was TBH ever going to stay more than 1 season ?
    Was Bikey who started at every club well, before losing form,
    a better long term CB ?
    Why give a player a Free, when we could've got a Million, for a guy who went straight into a championship team as the number 1 choice ?
    Why unsettle a player with Talk of East European options ?
    The CV of mistakes and the smoke and mirrors approach to running a football club continues to grow longer.

    Despite all this i still believe in supporting the team, yet keep asking the questions of the owner in a robust a way as possible, without crossing the line of decency.
  • I'm not surprised Morro knows about the protests.

    He's still good mates with Jacko and Hamer. They both sat in the away end when we lost 1-0 at the end of last season at St Andrews.
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172
    Chizz said:

    Who cares what an ex-player thinks? It would have been great if he'd stayed. But he'd have been out of contract soon anyway. What's more important is who's here now, and who's coming next.

    Me I do.
  • A 3rd choice centre back will over the course of the season get plenty of games anyway, with injuries, suspensions etc. so the whole saga is very strange