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sam3110
sam3110 Posts: 21,582
in General Charlton
Booing and jeering the big man everytime he does something wrong, and sarcastically applauding and cheering every header, isn't going to help him. He came on today for a tired Lookman, and our other players failed to react to the change. Simon is at his best with the ball played into his chest or feet, and he holds a player off before playing someone in who's running from deep, but we hardly ever play that way.

But for the love of God booing his every touch isn't going to bring the best out of him is it?
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  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,427
    He is a non league player.
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,208
    Valiantphil said:

    He is a non league player.

    Hold on he was our saviour when he came back for the Wednesday game, this is getting confusing for me
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,673
    Club is poison at the moment. Not a glimmer of light anywhere with the exception of the emergence of Lookman.

    We need a huge January lift both as supporters and squad. I doubt either.
  • braydex
    braydex Posts: 628
    Sorry but a strikers job is to score goals. He doesn't. He will get booed. Score goals and he won't get booed.simple.
  • Atletico Addick
    Atletico Addick Posts: 5,843
    It's football, it happens. You pay your money you show your discontent, in the same way you show your content. I can't feel sorry for him, he's playing a job under pressure and playing poorly at it.

    For a man 2 metres tall he really does need to win some headers though. :)
  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Posts: 7,667
    edited December 2015
    Too the taking the piss out of him. You are .
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,188
    If Lookman was tired looking Makienok's narcoleptic.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,929
    Said to Golfie he's poor but jeering and sarcasm when he wins a header isn't going to help him at all
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    edited December 2015
    Nicholas said:

    Too the taking the piss out of him. You are .

    *To

    ; )

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    Valiantphil said:

    He is a non league player.

    Harsh he is definitely league two standard in his technique although I'll agree with you his fitness is non-league.

    Not good at this level.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,629
    edited December 2015
    Nicholas said:

    Too the taking the piss out of him. You are .

    .
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,405
    edited December 2015
    Don't rate him but not his fault our stats based scouts saw a bloke of 6"7 who had been transferred for +£2M before and scored lots of goals in a weak league previously and thought we should sign him. Can't fault his effort and booing him is ridiculous.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,366
    Don't forget £2m and he is ours at the end of the season
  • ThreadKiller
    ThreadKiller Posts: 8,638
    Not sure who was worse, him or the fans
  • jamescafc
    jamescafc Posts: 1,835
    He has been very poor of late. For a man of his size to be so poor in the air will naturally attract criticism. I think the frustration is how often he is seen to be not challenging for the ball in the air. For him to be effective goes against the way the team seem to be playing. He comes on and it doesn't appear the rest know how to adapt. Playing balls into his feet or down the channels will never work!
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,629
    AFKABartram said:

    Don't like taking the mick out our own

    Another tick in the box for Roland.
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    You could take a big basketball player or rugby back row and put them upfront. They'd cause some aggro for defenders, score the odd goal but you wouldn't call them a centre forward, or even a footballer. Ditto Mak.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990
    It's a funny thing ....... he played some decent games early in the season, when he had plenty of support from a productive midfield playing to his strengths.

    He was unplayable against Hull and again against Sheff Weds.
    So there is something there.


    But then he had a truly shocking game against Ipswich.

    Now he's wandering around completely lost and bereft of confidence - and because there is no midfield and JBG is hiding, all that the rest of the team do is lump a high ball vaguely in his direction.

    Seems to me that he's a symptom of the team's malaise, rather than its cause.




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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,610
    Booing our own players doesn't solve anything. It's dumb and will just lead to worse performances from the players in question.

    If you don't want to get behind the team, don't turn up.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,394
    Started to look a bit embarrassing for the fans when they felt the need to sarcastically cheer him even after he had won 6 or 7 headers....
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,188
    AFKABartram said:

    Don't like taking the mick out our own

    But who was it really taking the mick, fans or player ?
  • Budington
    Budington Posts: 180
    For a player who showed he has some ability at the start of the season I reserve every right to jeer him after his last few performances. Truly woeful.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    braydex said:

    Sorry but a strikers job is to score goals. He doesn't. He will get booed. Score goals and he won't get booed.simple.

    General football rule : if some one ever says "a strikers job is to score goals" it's a bit like saying "I know nothing about football but I'll repeat what I heard down the pub from my Sunday league manager".
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,729
    One of the most lazy players I have witnessed at this level hardly covers any yards.
  • covered_end_junior
    covered_end_junior Posts: 4,556
    edited December 2015
    Short memories people have, he's not half as bad as some make out. Put him in a team with some decent players around him and he'll play well.

    Put him in a team short of confidence, playing a 4-3-3 and relying heavily on counter attacking football with pace and he's just about the last type of player you'd want in the team really.

    It's not a coincidence his worst performances have been in recent weeks when we're just looking to catch teams on the break over and over again.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,385
    edited December 2015
    He actually won more headers than usual when he came on, but to little effect.

    He needs to sit down tomorrow and watch a video of how Heskey played, as Heskey won everything in the air AND nearly always headed the ball to one of his teammates. He was easily their best player
  • I_Saw_Semedo_Score
    I_Saw_Semedo_Score Posts: 1,632
    edited December 2015
    Agreed the chanting is unnecessary but on the other hand he has looked piss poor for weeks. Felt bad for him at times on Saturday and against Ipswich especially, looked so far out of his depth it was embarrassing.

    What happened to the bloke who played against Hull?

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