We could be about to face a real nightmare.

Granpa

While Duchalet sits with his head in the sand, contemplating how to best strip this Club of its assets, I am very worried about the change amongst supporters after last nights debacle, with talk of violence. I am concerned that we might be about to face pitch invasions, which could lead to games being abandoned, ten points being deducted, orders to play behind locked doors to empty stadiums, causing loss of income from ticket sales, bars and restaurants, extra costs of stewards and police officers, and of course relegation to League 1 perhaps followed by League 2 and oblivion.
We know of course that our CEO is completely useless, we know that Murray is the same, what can we do ? I have never been particularly religeous, but right now we sure as hell need a saviour.

braydex

Sorry, but I don't see a problem with what you are foreseeing? Personally, I think if the club starts getting fined and has points deducted, RD/KM/KF/RM may all sit up and take notice. We are going down this season without a shadow of a doubt so what difference does it make if we go down with 10 points less? Maybe then, and only then, will the owner realise him and his cronies are not wanted, liked or respected and their best option is to sell up and move onto another club somewhere in the lower leagues of Europe.

Chris_from_Sidcup

Granpa said:

While Duchalet sits with his head in the sand, contemplating how to best strip this Club of its assets, I am very worried about the change amongst supporters after last nights debacle, with talk of violence. I am concerned that we might be about to face pitch invasions, which could lead to games being abandoned, ten points being deducted, orders to play behind locked doors to empty stadiums, causing loss of income from ticket sales, bars and restaurants, extra costs of stewards and police officers, and of course relegation to League 1 perhaps followed by League 2 and oblivion.
We know of course that our CEO is completely useless, we know that Murray is the same, what can we do ? I have never been particularly religeous, but right now we sure as hell need a saviour.

How many games have Millwall had abandoned or played behind closed doors and how many points have they ever had deducted?

seth plum

Hell is an opportunity for Roland to hear about an offer, but refusing.

se9addick

Why worry about those things before they have happened, life's too short to worry about pretty unlikely hypothetical scenarios.

ken_shabby

I personally would'nt advocate any sort of violent protest, but the anger needs to be channeled into legal demonstrations. BUT, we need to ramp this up. Fraeye was a symptom of the malignancy at the center of our club, and while the triumvirate of KM - RD and the stooge Murray continue to remain in charge, any superficial changes are meaningless.
Fraeye out, Meire out and please Duchatalet get out of OUR club.

Algarveaddick

I don't advocate violence, but as we are going to be sliding into oblivion anyway, what difference will a ten point deduction from a peaceful pitch invasion make?

Although Pinocchio claimed that the income from "customers" was not that important, the financial scenario you envisage would at least prove that right, or, (let's be more honest than they are) utterly wrong...

RodneyCharltonTrotta

Scarves, emails and songs are not working unfortunately and the protests need to be ratcheted up to get this mob out.

If we go down and they pull the plug then we're even less attractive an investment.

If they stay they'll repeat this flawed strategy and we'll end up in league 2.

Boycott home games and ramp up the protests to get them out.

RodneyCharltonTrotta

Scarves, emails and songs are not working unfortunately and the protests need to be ratcheted up to get this mob out.

If we go down and they pull the plug then we're even less attractive an investment.

If they stay they'll repeat this flawed strategy and we'll end up in league 2.

Boycott home games and ramp up the protests to get them out an

ValleyGary

Boycotts won't work imo. We have far too many fans that don't read social media etc and are happy to spend their Saturday afternoons sitting in the West stand drinking soup. I've nothing against these people but we have a large percentage of that type of support. Even if it got down to 6k-8k at home games, I don't think the Belgian twat would give a shit.

cfgs

It currently is a real nightmare in my opinion.

ForeverAddickted

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Granpa said:

While Duchalet sits with his head in the sand, contemplating how to best strip this Club of its assets, I am very worried about the change amongst supporters after last nights debacle, with talk of violence. I am concerned that we might be about to face pitch invasions, which could lead to games being abandoned, ten points being deducted, orders to play behind locked doors to empty stadiums, causing loss of income from ticket sales, bars and restaurants, extra costs of stewards and police officers, and of course relegation to League 1 perhaps followed by League 2 and oblivion.
We know of course that our CEO is completely useless, we know that Murray is the same, what can we do ? I have never been particularly religeous, but right now we sure as hell need a saviour.

How many games have Millwall had abandoned or played behind closed doors and how many points have they ever had deducted?

This is Charlton remember... the authorities seem to come down hard on us whilst ignoring what other clubs do (i.e. the pitch invasion against Carlisle)... We're the club version of how the English fans get treated by FIFA / UEFA

RodneyCharltonTrotta

Worth a try mate. No way sponsors are going to shell out of their audience is round 6k and they'll have done their magic break even budget on much higher attendances.

RodneyCharltonTrotta

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ValleyGary

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

Worth a try mate. No way sponsors are going to shell out of their audience is round 6k and they'll have done their magic break even budget on much higher attendances.

Even so mate, this bloke seems like a real stubborn old fool who's ego and self importance will overpower any hit he takes in the pocket, until his 'masterplan' is complete.

I can't see any way out of this.

Bubble

We need to take the fight to Belgium - KM, KF ... it makes no difference - We need to get infront of Roland, be it media/billboards or whatever

We need to visual in front of him

kings hill addick

I'd normally agree with you Grampa but right now think I would struggle to condemn anything.

I'm not suggesting that we should be burning their houses down but I've ever been more tempted to turn a blind eye to 'what needs to be done' to achieve a better end result.

There will be a point at which they all give up and leave. With the damage they are doing to the club that we all love it is becoming difficult not to see the lines of acceptability blur.

Bedsaddick

Bubble said:

We need to take the fight to Belgium - KM, KF ... it makes no difference - We need to get infront of Roland, be it media/billboards or whatever

We need to visual in front of him

Good call

mogodon

I would urge restraint while admitting it is getting harder thanks to the way the club is run at every level. We have to become more vociferous against anyone connected with RD, more aggressive in boycotting all facilities and income steams for the club, but keep within the law and keep backing the players. IT will be hard but we have to keep the high moral ground surrendered by them with the disgraceful post-match cowardice last night

boggzy

Can't do it this month, but available for driving/moral support if a few fancy popping over to Belgium in Feb.

Daggs

The moment a fan customer throws a brick, vandalises something or gets into violent confrontation, is the moment we lose the moral authority.
Embarrasing them with peaceful noisy protest utilising banners/placards etc, coupled with boycotting is the way to go. IMO

Rothko

Time for a few more vocal supporters to move their tickets for the Blackburn game to the area around the directors box.

WelshAddick

The lunatics are running the asylum and we need to take it back!!

Croydon

Pitch invasion please, because its so unCharlton and we deserve to have some fun for a change.

Themightyath2

Granpa said:

While Duchalet sits with his head in the sand, contemplating how to best strip this Club of its assets, I am very worried about the change amongst supporters after last nights debacle, with talk of violence. I am concerned that we might be about to face pitch invasions, which could lead to games being abandoned, ten points being deducted, orders to play behind locked doors to empty stadiums, causing loss of income from ticket sales, bars and restaurants, extra costs of stewards and police officers, and of course relegation to League 1 perhaps followed by League 2 and oblivion.
We know of course that our CEO is completely useless, we know that Murray is the same, what can we do ? I have never been particularly religeous, but right now we sure as hell need a saviour.

More likely to see empty stands! I'm a season ticket holder but will not being going to the game v Blackburn if KF is still in the dugout.

Kap10

Rothko said:

Time for a few more vocal supporters to move their tickets for the Blackburn game to the area around the directors box.

Don't think they need to move their tickets just need to walk to the empty seats. Moving your ST incurs an admin charge these days.

ShootersHillGuru

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PeteF

Bubble said:

We need to take the fight to Belgium - KM, KF ... it makes no difference - We need to get infront of Roland, be it media/billboards or whatever

We need to visual in front of him

Agreed, the only games he goes to are St Truiden games, we need to pitch up there and protest on his home patch.

The_President

Boggzy, have sent you a PM.

The_President

PeteF said:

Bubble said:

We need to take the fight to Belgium - KM, KF ... it makes no difference - We need to get infront of Roland, be it media/billboards or whatever

We need to visual in front of him

Agreed, the only games he goes to are St Truiden games, we need to pitch up there and protest on his home patch.

Pete, have sent you a PM.

Isawsummersplay

Would happily join any pitch invasion. With any luck, I would be banned from the Valley for the rest of the season solving my dilemma whether to continue attending or to join a boycott.