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Olympic Stadium; our day in court
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'Paying tribute', didn't think West Ham paid for anything at that stadium.18
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West Ham have been granted planning permission to increase matchday capacity at London Stadium to 62,500.
An extra 2,500 seats will be made available on completion of the safety certificate application.
Enhancements to the Bobby Moore and Sir Trevor Brooking stands would see London Stadium become the biggest Premier League stadium in London.
The expansion is part of long-term plans to reach the stadium's full capacity of 67,000.
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Dare I ask, who’s paying for it?2
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Youguinnessaddick said:Dare I ask, who’s paying for it?0 -
Seeing as I’m not working, then it’s a no from me.DaveMehmet said:
Youguinnessaddick said:Dare I ask, who’s paying for it?2 -
Pretty sure there’s no (additional) cost. The seats are already there it’s just a matter of allowing more people into the ground. I’m not sure how that translates regarding extra revenue = money back to the tax payer if at all.guinnessaddick said:Dare I ask, who’s paying for it?0 -
Depends on how much they have to bung the safety officer for the certificate.0
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So I’ve paid for them, when I was working.SID said:
Pretty sure there’s no (additional) cost. The seats are already there it’s just a matter of allowing more people into the ground. I’m not sure how that translates regarding extra revenue = money back to the tax payer if at all.guinnessaddick said:Dare I ask, who’s paying for it?2 -
Nice to be able to contribute.
Apples n pears
Trouble n strife
Gor blimey govner
N all that shite!0 - Sponsored links:
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https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11685/12453335/west-ham-czech-billionaire-daniel-kretinsky-close-to-buying-27-per-cent-stake-in-clubUh.oh…
If you ask my neighbour or most other Sparta fans they would happily give Kretinsky a good kicking. Thats how highly rated he is as an owner… however thats a problem for the hamsters. The bigger question is what happens re taxpayers refund if only 27% is sold? As far as I can recall, the contract terms make no mention of such an event. Well those expensive lawyers and consultants we all paid for cant be expected to think of everything, can they?One to watch. Might have to reactivate the Coalition2 -
Heard a rumour that West Ham have been given the stadium0
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Kretinsky is a cracking name for an (alleged) dodgy owner, particularly if they are a little intellectually challenged.
Would have suited some of our recent occupants
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There's certainly a feeling that UK Athletics will cut it loses on the London Stadium, and focus all it's attention on the Alexander Stadium moving forward0
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Which may explain why the porn brothers are selling up0
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The way it was put to me, was that 20k at the redeveloped Alexander was as profitable as 40k at the London Stadium, the costs of the event at the LS was expensive, and a massive ball ache. Birmingham City Council plus the West Midlands Mayor are keen for the stadium to get a lot of use post Commonwealths
I think UK Athletics will be brought out of their contract for a load of cash, and then it's football and concerts0 -
And baseball?0
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As long as any development going forward results in minor to major ball ache for the dildo pedlers (clunge ache for Lady Brady), that's all that matters to moi!2
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This article seems to spell the end of athletics at the LS.
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I wonder what football team Martin Samuel supports?Dansk_Red said:This article seems to spell the end of athletics at the LS.6 - Sponsored links:
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The dildo brothers can sell the club and keep all the profit in a year’s time.0
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I did say it was going to happen0
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Luverly jubberly...pass the lube!The Red Robin said:The dildo brothers can sell the club and keep all the profit in a year’s time.
THE STRAWBERRY FLAVOURED ONE YOOOAH CARNTS!!!!2 -
West Ham are forever getting stick over the London Stadium whereas little is ever said about the the City of Manchester Stadium, a k a the Etihad which was converted for use as a football stadium using Manchester rate payers cash and is leased to the billionaire owners of Citteee at a low (comparatively compared to the Citteee owner's riches) rent0
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Pretty certain @PragueAddick has covered the differences between Citeh & the Hammers deals and I believe Citeh pay / do a lot more than the latter.Lincsaddick said:West Ham are forever getting stick over the London Stadium whereas little is ever said about the the City of Manchester Stadium, a k a the Etihad which was converted for use as a football stadium using Manchester rate payers cash and is leased to the billionaire owners of Citteee at a low (comparatively compared to the Citteee owner's riches) rent
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whatever, Man Citteee have still had a very good deal at the tax/rate payers expensecafc999 said:
Pretty certain @PragueAddick has covered the differences between Citeh & the Hammers deals and I believe Citeh pay / do a lot more than the latter.Lincsaddick said:West Ham are forever getting stick over the London Stadium whereas little is ever said about the the City of Manchester Stadium, a k a the Etihad which was converted for use as a football stadium using Manchester rate payers cash and is leased to the billionaire owners of Citteee at a low (comparatively compared to the Citteee owner's riches) rent
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"at the taxpayers' expense" is a highly emotive phrase and, with one eye closed, not entirely without foundationLincsaddick said:
whatever, Man Citteee have still had a very good deal at the tax/rate payers expensecafc999 said:
Pretty certain @PragueAddick has covered the differences between Citeh & the Hammers deals and I believe Citeh pay / do a lot more than the latter.Lincsaddick said:West Ham are forever getting stick over the London Stadium whereas little is ever said about the the City of Manchester Stadium, a k a the Etihad which was converted for use as a football stadium using Manchester rate payers cash and is leased to the billionaire owners of Citteee at a low (comparatively compared to the Citteee owner's riches) rent
Happy to be corrected
Significant taxpayers' money was invested in the games, the stadium, and the area in general.
Were you familiar with the area in which the Manchester Commonwealth games stadium was built? Basra and West Beirut compared favourably.
Are you familiar with it now?
How much employment has Man City's move brought locally and more widely? How has the wider local economy benefitted from City's success?
These figures might be hard to tie down with certainty but the alternative to not staging the games and not building a stadium is much easier to quantify. There would only have been inexorable decline, no regeneration would be possible without a catalyst.
We could argue forever about what a "fairer" or "arms-length" rent might be now for City but categorisation of the original investment as a sunk cost for we proles is distorted to the point of falsehood.
What's equally apparent is that the lessons of Manchester were cynically, cravenly ignored with West Ham's criminally cheap deal for our Olympic stadium. But even the porn peddlers' inexcusable gift from HMGov is favourable (just) over Sydney's crumbling white elephant unused 2000 Olympic stadium. Brady, Gold and Sullivan's tax bills will be eyewatering, none of them is non-dom or resident in Monaco, unlike certain other successful British business owners8 -
But other than that ...Billy_Mix said:
"at the taxpayers' expense" is a highly emotive phrase and, with one eye closed, not entirely without foundationLincsaddick said:
whatever, Man Citteee have still had a very good deal at the tax/rate payers expensecafc999 said:
Pretty certain @PragueAddick has covered the differences between Citeh & the Hammers deals and I believe Citeh pay / do a lot more than the latter.Lincsaddick said:West Ham are forever getting stick over the London Stadium whereas little is ever said about the the City of Manchester Stadium, a k a the Etihad which was converted for use as a football stadium using Manchester rate payers cash and is leased to the billionaire owners of Citteee at a low (comparatively compared to the Citteee owner's riches) rent
Happy to be corrected
Significant taxpayers' money was invested in the games, the stadium, and the area in general.
Were you familiar with the area in which the Manchester Commonwealth games stadium was built? Basra and West Beirut compared favourably.
Are you familiar with it now?
How much employment has Man City's move brought locally and more widely? How has the wider local economy benefitted from City's success?
These figures might be hard to tie down with certainty but the alternative to not staging the games and not building a stadium is much easier to quantify. There would only have been inexorable decline, no regeneration would be possible without a catalyst.
We could argue forever about what a "fairer" or "arms-length" rent might be now for City but categorisation of the original investment as a sunk cost for we proles is distorted to the point of falsehood.
What's equally apparent is that the lessons of Manchester were cynically, cravenly ignored with West Ham's criminally cheap deal for our Olympic stadium. But even the porn peddlers' inexcusable gift from HMGov is favourable (just) over Sydney's crumbling white elephant unused 2000 Olympic stadium. Brady, Gold and Sullivan's tax bills will be eyewatering, none of them is non-dom or resident in Monaco, unlike certain other successful British business owners2 -
and EXACTLY the same can be said for the area around the London stadium .. and after the games for which they were built, what was the future for both stadia ? .. the only realistic use was as a regularly used football stadium .. AND both stadia and the crowds and interest attracted on a regular basis have brought (as you indicate) prosperity and jobs to two pretty downbeat if not derelict areas .. in both cases, the local authorities and (presumably) central government have spent money converting the stadia on the principle of speculating to accumulate, and in both cases they have been proved right. The only issue is the VERY generous rental/lease terms agreed for both stadiaBilly_Mix said:
"at the taxpayers' expense" is a highly emotive phrase and, with one eye closed, not entirely without foundationLincsaddick said:
whatever, Man Citteee have still had a very good deal at the tax/rate payers expensecafc999 said:
Pretty certain @PragueAddick has covered the differences between Citeh & the Hammers deals and I believe Citeh pay / do a lot more than the latter.Lincsaddick said:West Ham are forever getting stick over the London Stadium whereas little is ever said about the the City of Manchester Stadium, a k a the Etihad which was converted for use as a football stadium using Manchester rate payers cash and is leased to the billionaire owners of Citteee at a low (comparatively compared to the Citteee owner's riches) rent
Happy to be corrected
Significant taxpayers' money was invested in the games, the stadium, and the area in general.
Were you familiar with the area in which the Manchester Commonwealth games stadium was built? Basra and West Beirut compared favourably.
Are you familiar with it now?
How much employment has Man City's move brought locally and more widely? How has the wider local economy benefitted from City's success?
These figures might be hard to tie down with certainty but the alternative to not staging the games and not building a stadium is much easier to quantify. There would only have been inexorable decline, no regeneration would be possible without a catalyst.
We could argue forever about what a "fairer" or "arms-length" rent might be now for City but categorisation of the original investment as a sunk cost for we proles is distorted to the point of falsehood.
What's equally apparent is that the lessons of Manchester were cynically, cravenly ignored with West Ham's criminally cheap deal for our Olympic stadium. But even the porn peddlers' inexcusable gift from HMGov is favourable (just) over Sydney's crumbling white elephant unused 2000 Olympic stadium. Brady, Gold and Sullivan's tax bills will be eyewatering, none of them is non-dom or resident in Monaco, unlike certain other successful British business owners0 -
It was also designed and built with its post-athletics life in mind. It was always going to be a football stadium after the Commonwealth Games.cafc999 said:
Pretty certain @PragueAddick has covered the differences between Citeh & the Hammers deals and I believe Citeh pay / do a lot more than the latter.Lincsaddick said:West Ham are forever getting stick over the London Stadium whereas little is ever said about the the City of Manchester Stadium, a k a the Etihad which was converted for use as a football stadium using Manchester rate payers cash and is leased to the billionaire owners of Citteee at a low (comparatively compared to the Citteee owner's riches) rent
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