unfortunately something like this is inevitable. It will proving an exciting novelty for a couple of years but will become predictably boring. Whereas Liverpool v Real Madrid may be an exciting diversion now, if these sort of games were regular the extra spice will be lost. The nostalgia of the Merseyside derby will be sorely missed. The majority of fans in England will get bored and not want to watch these games. At the moment if there were 2 games on Real v Bayern or Everton v Spurs, which would get the biggest audience? Meanwhile the rest of the English league can get on with things and after a couple of years will flourish again. No long term problem. PS nothing to do with us anyway
You're looking at it from the perspective of an English or European fan. These guys are thinking worldwide television and merchandising revenue.
I agree with you. That's why I say it is inevitable it will happen. I then do focus on English fans perspective and say why most fans shouldn't be worried.
They'll just set up their own 'b teams' in each league taking their position swapping first team and b team players at will thus keeping superstars fit and having the caveat of being able to see the super league players of the future.....Being able to have their cake and eat it, sadly all 92 clubs will agree in fear or losing the big attendances and branding 'pull' of the 'big' teams....UEFA and all FAs will breathe a sigh of relief at not losing 'their' assets.....
Then the FA and Premier League should say to them if you go, you go. You're not having a B team in our leagues.
They'll just set up their own 'b teams' in each league taking their position swapping first team and b team players at will thus keeping superstars fit and having the caveat of being able to see the super league players of the future.....Being able to have their cake and eat it, sadly all 92 clubs will agree in fear or losing the big attendances and branding 'pull' of the 'big' teams....UEFA and all FAs will breathe a sigh of relief at not losing 'their' assets.....
Then the FA and Premier League should say to them if you go, you go. You're not having a B team in our leagues.
They should, but they won't, they'll be scared of losing 'their' assets
I don't get the opinion of those who are saying 'let them go and get on with it, our league will be better without them'. It would absolutely kill football in this country for years until a sense of normality returns.
For a start the premier league tv money would fall through the floor, the armchair fan isn't going to pay his monthly sky subscription to watch the likes of Burnley and Southampton battle it out. I've no idea when the current tv deal expires, but plenty of clubs will be stuck with players on big contracts but no more 100m+ coming in from sky.
Then with drastically reduced tv income, it'll likely mean that plenty of the foreign owners at lesser clubs like Wolves, Fulham, Bournemouth etc will be less inclined to stick around. I could see quite a few clubs going bust.
Yes eventually it'd all sort itself out, as we obviously had football for 100+ years before the premier league took over, but i really don't think this would be at all good for quite a few years.
Personally i think some kind of Euro Super league is inevitable but not at the expense of domestic leagues. I think the big clubs should just withdraw from domestic cup competitions and instead form a breakaway euro league to be played in midweeks. The Europa league can then be a competition for the best of the rest, and then bring back the cup winners cup as well.
I don't get the opinion of those who are saying 'let them go and get on with it, our league will be better without them'. It would absolutely kill football in this country for years until a sense of normality returns.
For a start the premier league tv money would fall through the floor, the armchair fan isn't going to pay his monthly sky subscription to watch the likes of Burnley and Southampton battle it out. I've no idea when the current tv deal expires, but plenty of clubs will be stuck with players on big contracts but no more 100m+ coming in from sky.
Then with drastically reduced tv income, it'll likely mean that plenty of the foreign owners at lesser clubs like Wolves, Fulham, Bournemouth etc will be less inclined to stick around. I could see quite a few clubs going bust.
Yes eventually it'd all sort itself out, as we obviously had football for 100+ years before the premier league took over, but i really don't think this would be at all good for quite a few years.
Personally i think some kind of Euro Super league is inevitable but not at the expense of domestic leagues. I think the big clubs should just withdraw from domestic cup competitions and instead form a breakaway euro league to be played in midweeks. The Europa league can then be a competition for the best of the rest, and then bring back the cup winners cup as well.
Unfortunately I think clubs going bust en masse is the only way Football will ever sort itself out... Just gotta remember at the end, those that remain will be the ones that have been ran the right way all along
Wasn't this being discussed 18 odd years ago according to Richard Murray ? At a Bromley addicks meeting Dickie mentioned Man utd going into a super League of about 10 top Euro teams and leaving the Premier. This was when we were still in the Premier. RM seem to think not if but when.
The top clubs will get whatever they want. Without them these football associations are nothing. No money. No influence. No jollies. Isn’t it what The Premier League did when it stuck two fingers up to the FA ? Football is purely about money at the top now and it’s going to get worse. Lower level clubs can go screw themselves as far as the elite are concerned.
I keep saying it but every year I fall out of love with football just a little bit more. Used to be my Charlton flame that kept me on board but that has started to flicker.
The reaction of the fans to the proposals last time was so very anti, I can't see English clubs wanting it to progress. However Real Madrid, Barcelona and Juventus want it. My fear is that a league could be set up and be a gateway for these new Arab teams to get in.
The reaction of the fans to the proposals last time was so very anti, I can't see English clubs wanting it to progress. However Real Madrid, Barcelona and Juventus want it. My fear is that a league could be set up and be a gateway for these new Arab teams to get in.
The main thing is the big clubs can earn even more money as will the players and agents. The less competition the better.
The reaction of the fans to the proposals last time was so very anti, I can't see English clubs wanting it to progress. However Real Madrid, Barcelona and Juventus want it. My fear is that a league could be set up and be a gateway for these new Arab teams to get in.
Do the numbers stack up without the English clubs and Bayern Munich?
A league of the big Spanish & Italian teams, PSG and some teams from Saudia Arabia is surely much less enticing than the originally envisaged product?
If there isn’t a straightforward pathway based on results, that would allow Cray Valley Paper Mills to play at the top level of European football then they can stick it. The pyramid system based on results is the right structure for Football in my opinion.
Let them get on with it - Even if the "bigger" English clubs go - good luck and fuck off to the lot f them.
Football aint about that and can always survive. Will us versus Huddersfield be any poorer for Man City playing on a pitch made from gold thread and orphans tears on a telly screen we dotn watch in a a league we dont know ?
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Knowing our luck, West Ham will get bought by a bored Saudi or Arab Prince or something.
For a start the premier league tv money would fall through the floor, the armchair fan isn't going to pay his monthly sky subscription to watch the likes of Burnley and Southampton battle it out. I've no idea when the current tv deal expires, but plenty of clubs will be stuck with players on big contracts but no more 100m+ coming in from sky.
Then with drastically reduced tv income, it'll likely mean that plenty of the foreign owners at lesser clubs like Wolves, Fulham, Bournemouth etc will be less inclined to stick around. I could see quite a few clubs going bust.
Yes eventually it'd all sort itself out, as we obviously had football for 100+ years before the premier league took over, but i really don't think this would be at all good for quite a few years.
Personally i think some kind of Euro Super league is inevitable but not at the expense of domestic leagues. I think the big clubs should just withdraw from domestic cup competitions and instead form a breakaway euro league to be played in midweeks. The Europa league can then be a competition for the best of the rest, and then bring back the cup winners cup as well.
At a Bromley addicks meeting Dickie mentioned Man utd going into a super League of about 10 top Euro teams and leaving the Premier.
This was when we were still in the Premier.
RM seem to think not if but when.
But major reforms are coming.
Exclusive interview with two of the most powerful men in football on their future plans and how it’s not all about keeping the elite teams happy.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46259269
I keep saying it but every year I fall out of love with football just a little bit more. Used to be my Charlton flame that kept me on board but that has started to flicker.
European Super League: Uefa and Fifa rules banning breakaway league unlawful, says court
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67783970It's pathetic that the court ruled as it did.
I'm increasingly disenchanted with football.
The company who backed the European Super League, A22, has launched a new proposal for men's and women's European competitions.
The proposal is a league system with 64 men's clubs across three leagues with participation based on sporting merit and no permanent members.
The women's competition would include 32 clubs across two leagues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67787981
I didn't want to be accused of oversimplification with "a free for all" 😉 .
The pyramid system based on results is the right structure for Football in my opinion.
Football aint about that and can always survive. Will us versus Huddersfield be any poorer for Man City playing on a pitch made from gold thread and orphans tears on a telly screen we dotn watch in a a league we dont know ?
FUCK THEM