Bivol robbed there. Of course Beterbiev is going to have favoritism in Saudi.
To be fair even Turki Alalshikh said he didn't agree with the decision.
“This was one of the great fights of the last 20 years I think, but I don't think the result was fair, in my opinion. The two fighters are like my brothers, but I think Bivol won two rounds more. I will focus and I will try to do the rematch."
Personally watching it live i felt Bivol edged it. I can't see how he didn't win at least 6 rounds so a draw at worst and no way he should've lost. In a close fight though it only needs a couple of judges to score a couple of rounds the other way and a 7-5 Bivol becomes a 7-5 Beterbiev. The 116-112 scorecard seems very harsh though. Also looking at the fighters reactions at the end i felt like Beterbiev thought he'd lost, looked a bit dejected standing in his corner.
Full credit to Bivol though, he didn't moan, said he's not making excuses, just accepted it and said we move on and wants a rematch.
Overall it's a shame there's controversy as i thought it was an incredible fight, one of the best i've seen in recent years and they have to do it again.
It was a great fight two men who are genuinely elite at what they do, doing what they do. I felt Bivol won but I'm not going to get on the judges backs too much. Its the problem with scoring fights being totally subjective to the individual judge and the fuckers don't tell anyone what they like to see. For 2 of them clearly it was whoever finished the round strong gets the nod, I dont think that's fair or how to score a fight else the fights would be 12 x 25 second rounds.
I didnt see it live but watched back the Wardley v Clarke fight, a proper finish that but think for a second or ten. Fabio Wardley was on the circuit of white collar boxing, imagine coming up against that wrecking ball when you were just trying to fulfill a lifes goal and raise a few quid for charity on the downtime from your day job
Even though I slightly fancied Beterbiev to win on points and was prepared to put a score on it, I felt Bivol won by at least 3 rounds. Not complaining mind.
Currently watching the title fight from Japan on sky, and the co-main event had open scoring so the corners and commentators can see who's winning throughout the fight.
That would definitely have changed Bivol's approach to the last 2 rounds last night.
Have just finished watching a four part tv documentary “Four Kings”. Recommended for anyone interested in a look back at the “heyday” of British boxing. The Four Kings are
Chris Eubank and his rivalry with Nigel Benn
Frank Bruno and Lennox Lewis
Only Lennox appeared to come out of his boxing career and not run into the huge problems of the other three.
I almost feel embarrassed to raise this subject on this thread... but Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul.
WTF? Is this the same Jake Paul that lost to Tommy Fury? How on earth is Paul favourite?
Granted Tyson is in his late 50s, they are using bigger, softer gloves, only 8 x 2 min rounds... but surely it only takes Tyson one punch to do Paul some damage?
But then listening to Billy Joe Saunders on Talksport yesterday lunchtime, he says anyone thinking Tyson will be able to cope with 8 x 2 min rounds is off their rocker.
Now looking at becoming the biggest ever PPV event in America. Like seriously WTF.
I almost feel embarrassed to raise this subject on this thread... but Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul.
WTF? Is this the same Jake Paul that lost to Tommy Fury? How on earth is Paul favourite?
Granted Tyson is in his late 50s, they are using bigger, softer gloves, only 8 x 2 min rounds... but surely it only takes Tyson one punch to do Paul some damage?
But then listening to Billy Joe Saunders on Talksport yesterday lunchtime, he says anyone thinking Tyson will be able to cope with 8 x 2 min rounds is off their rocker.
Now looking at becoming the biggest ever PPV event in America. Like seriously WTF.
Will it be competitive?
I have to admit I wont be rushing to watch it.
That's a bit misleading though. It's going to be live on Netflix which has over 280 million subscribers worldwide so unless there are tons of people out there who don't have an account and are desperate to sign up, i'd imagine 99% of people who do watch it won't be paying anything 'extra' to see it.
That's a bit misleading though. It's going to be live on Netflix which has over 280 million subscribers worldwide so unless there are tons of people out there who don't have an account and are desperate to sign up, i'd imagine 99% of people who do watch it won't be paying anything 'extra' to see it.
It's an incredibly sad day, last time I stayed up to watch a Tyson fight, I was 15 and he was banging people out in seconds. I really hope it's not fixed.
It's an incredibly sad day, last time I stayed up to watch a Tyson fight, I was 15 and he was banging people out in seconds. I really hope it's not fixed.
Of Course it is. It's a form of WWE Circus boxing . Tyson will lose on purpose . Pocket his $15Mil and Jake Paul will continue to con millions of of his fans while saying he beat Tyson.
It's an incredibly sad day, last time I stayed up to watch a Tyson fight, I was 15 and he was banging people out in seconds. I really hope it's not fixed.
Of Course it is. It's a form of WWE Circus boxing . Tyson will lose on purpose . Pocket his $15Mil and Jake Paul will continue to con millions of of his fans while saying he beat Tyson.
Well yeah, thats why I say hope though, incredibly sad night for boxing and my childhood memories.
It's an incredibly sad day, last time I stayed up to watch a Tyson fight, I was 15 and he was banging people out in seconds. I really hope it's not fixed.
Of Course it is. It's a form of WWE Circus boxing . Tyson will lose on purpose . Pocket his $15Mil and Jake Paul will continue to con millions of of his fans while saying he beat Tyson.
I'm not really sure I even fault Tyson for it too much, at his age I can't really say I wouldn't be tempted to get one last big pay off in the same circumstances.
Shame for boxing as a sport of course but this sort of shit has been coming honestly.
Would be great if Tyson can bang him out in the first round. I think this fight is only even a thing because there's the chance that "Tyson only needs 1 punch to KO him".
In reality though i expect after an initial flurry, Tyson will gas out (even with 2 minute rounds) and Paul will beat him later on. It was just a couple of years ago that Tyson was pictured in a wheelchair with sciatica.
It's an incredibly sad day, last time I stayed up to watch a Tyson fight, I was 15 and he was banging people out in seconds. I really hope it's not fixed.
Of Course it is. It's a form of WWE Circus boxing . Tyson will lose on purpose . Pocket his $15Mil and Jake Paul will continue to con millions of of his fans while saying he beat Tyson.
I'm not really sure I even fault Tyson for it too much, at his age I can't really say I wouldn't be tempted to get one last big pay off in the same circumstances.
Shame for boxing as a sport of course but this sort of shit has been coming honestly.
I don't Blame Tyson at all. It's just a shame the attention it gets as it's so obviously a farce.
It's an incredibly sad day, last time I stayed up to watch a Tyson fight, I was 15 and he was banging people out in seconds. I really hope it's not fixed.
Of Course it is. It's a form of WWE Circus boxing . Tyson will lose on purpose . Pocket his $15Mil and Jake Paul will continue to con millions of of his fans while saying he beat Tyson.
I'm not really sure I even fault Tyson for it too much, at his age I can't really say I wouldn't be tempted to get one last big pay off in the same circumstances.
Shame for boxing as a sport of course but this sort of shit has been coming honestly.
I don't Blame Tyson at all. It's just a shame the attention it gets as it's so obviously a farce.
Agreed, sadly this is just the next step along a route that has been coming for a while with all the YouTube "boxers", Macgregor vs Mayweather etc nonsense.
It's an incredibly sad day, last time I stayed up to watch a Tyson fight, I was 15 and he was banging people out in seconds. I really hope it's not fixed.
Of Course it is. It's a form of WWE Circus boxing . Tyson will lose on purpose . Pocket his $15Mil and Jake Paul will continue to con millions of of his fans while saying he beat Tyson.
I'm not really sure I even fault Tyson for it too much, at his age I can't really say I wouldn't be tempted to get one last big pay off in the same circumstances.
Shame for boxing as a sport of course but this sort of shit has been coming honestly.
I don't Blame Tyson at all. It's just a shame the attention it gets as it's so obviously a farce.
Definitely can't blame him, he's getting a reported $20m for (at most) 16 minutes of fighting. Or Paul for that matter, he's allegedly getting even more.
And people wonder why he doesn't want 'real' fights. Why would you if you're earning more than every current pro boxer except Canelo, Fury and Usyk.
Bivol and Beterbiev both got a guaranteed $10m for their recent fight and they're 2 of the best in the world.
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Must have judged on walking forwards rather than actual punches landed.
“This was one of the great fights of the last 20 years I think, but I don't think the result was fair, in my opinion. The two fighters are like my brothers, but I think Bivol won two rounds more. I will focus and I will try to do the rematch."
Personally watching it live i felt Bivol edged it. I can't see how he didn't win at least 6 rounds so a draw at worst and no way he should've lost. In a close fight though it only needs a couple of judges to score a couple of rounds the other way and a 7-5 Bivol becomes a 7-5 Beterbiev. The 116-112 scorecard seems very harsh though. Also looking at the fighters reactions at the end i felt like Beterbiev thought he'd lost, looked a bit dejected standing in his corner.
Full credit to Bivol though, he didn't moan, said he's not making excuses, just accepted it and said we move on and wants a rematch.
Overall it's a shame there's controversy as i thought it was an incredible fight, one of the best i've seen in recent years and they have to do it again.
I didnt see it live but watched back the Wardley v Clarke fight, a proper finish that but think for a second or ten. Fabio Wardley was on the circuit of white collar boxing, imagine coming up against that wrecking ball when you were just trying to fulfill a lifes goal and raise a few quid for charity on the downtime from your day job
That would definitely have changed Bivol's approach to the last 2 rounds last night.
Chris Eubank and his rivalry with Nigel Benn
Frank Bruno and Lennox Lewis
Only Lennox appeared to come out of his boxing career and not run into the huge problems of the other three.
but Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul.
WTF? Is this the same Jake Paul that lost to Tommy Fury?
How on earth is Paul favourite?
Granted Tyson is in his late 50s, they are using bigger, softer gloves, only 8 x 2 min rounds...
but surely it only takes Tyson one punch to do Paul some damage?
But then listening to Billy Joe Saunders on Talksport yesterday lunchtime, he says anyone thinking Tyson will be able to cope with 8 x 2 min rounds is off their rocker.
Now looking at becoming the biggest ever PPV event in America. Like seriously WTF.
Will it be competitive?
I have to admit I wont be rushing to watch it.
Shame for boxing as a sport of course but this sort of shit has been coming honestly.
In reality though i expect after an initial flurry, Tyson will gas out (even with 2 minute rounds) and Paul will beat him later on. It was just a couple of years ago that Tyson was pictured in a wheelchair with sciatica.
And people wonder why he doesn't want 'real' fights. Why would you if you're earning more than every current pro boxer except Canelo, Fury and Usyk.
Bivol and Beterbiev both got a guaranteed $10m for their recent fight and they're 2 of the best in the world.
let him think in round 1 he’s got half a chance and then destroy him