Why? Someone explain to me the strategy of putting a PPV show on the night of a more appealing PPV?
Hearn trying to screw Warren as much as he can.
That and an irrepressible greed and desire to convince the great British mug punter public that to make fights like this they have to be on pay per view
Frampton v Warrington is a belter of a match. Frampton is nice, fluid and slick. Warrington less so, and runs at a million miles an hour for 12 rounds.
Why? Someone explain to me the strategy of putting a PPV show on the night of a more appealing PPV?
Hearn trying to screw Warren as much as he can.
That and an irrepressible greed and desire to convince the great British mug punter public that to make fights like this they have to be on pay per view
Frampton v Warrington is a belter of a match. Frampton is nice, fluid and slick. Warrington less so, and runs at a million miles an hour for 12 rounds.
Totally agree - I'll be in Manchester rather than London.
PPV should be reserved for major fights like GGG/Canelo or other world title fights between the two best in the division.
No one should be willing to pay to watch two B-level heavyweights fight. The result doesn't actually mean anything in regards to the division as both guys have lost to the A fighters.
Why? Someone explain to me the strategy of putting a PPV show on the night of a more appealing PPV?
Hearn trying to screw Warren as much as he can.
That and an irrepressible greed and desire to convince the great British mug punter public that to make fights like this they have to be on pay per view
Frampton v Warrington is a belter of a match. Frampton is nice, fluid and slick. Warrington less so, and runs at a million miles an hour for 12 rounds.
Totally agree - I'll be in Manchester rather than London.
We will be together then mate I am ringside for that fight
@AFKABartram up until very recently there was an unwritten rule that promoters wouldnt do it
On the odd occasion it would happen but Eddie has form for it
Like most other sports we have our favorites but in boxing the sport thrives because boxers are very accessible to the fans they and you don’t have to have any one fighter in a bill that your a firm fan of
Now Warrington vs frampton is a hum dinger of a fight it’s two Brits at the top of their game who know each other extremely well
Warrington managed by Steve woods trained by papa Sean
Frampton trained by Jamie Moore who is like woodsys son
And training in the VIP gym which is directly under woodsys window of his office
Both teams know each other inside out jamie and papa like each other and spend time together and nice guy Nigel Travis is very much loved by the guys in Leeds
Then Eddie goes and puts on a London show to compete
Leeds fans will be in full flow the Belfast crowd is phenomenal when it comes to frampton
Neither derick or Whyte have Huge followings this will be a warren win hands down ticket wise
But Hearn will win the PPV and boxing fans lose more than anyone
I could watch Whyte chisora all day... Hopefully since it's such a low-stakes rubber, Hearn will surpass himself and put on a decent undercard. I'd be tempted to go.
Don’t get the hype about Whyte Chisora 2. I would of rather seen Whyte v Jarrell Miller or even Breazeale. That being said, I’ll be weighing out for it again I suppose.
Whyte v Chisora is for the casuals, Warrington v Frampton is for the purists.
On a different note, I'm off to Glasgow tomorrow for the WBSS card. Ryan Burnett fighting Nonito Donaire in the Bantamweight competition and Josh Taylor v Ryan Martin in the super-lightweight division. £40 a ticket.
Anyone just watch Daryll Williams vs Zach Parker? Williams absolutely robbed. Parker won 3 rounds at a push 4 maximum. One judge actually had the front to score it 117-112.
Must be awful for a small time boxer like Williams to completely out box and out work his opponent to be robbed regardless.
Whyte v Chisora is for the casuals, Warrington v Frampton is for the purists.
On a different note, I'm off to Glasgow tomorrow for the WBSS card. Ryan Burnett fighting Nonito Donaire in the Bantamweight competition and Josh Taylor v Ryan Martin in the super-lightweight division. £40 a ticket.
can't question the value of that at all can you
When people want similar money for white collar fights
Anyone just watch Daryll Williams vs Zach Parker? Williams absolutely robbed. Parker won 3 rounds at a push 4 maximum. One judge actually had the front to score it 117-112.
Must be awful for a small time boxer like Williams to completely out box and out work his opponent to be robbed regardless.
Yeah it wasn't well received in the arena. Not sure if the boos could be heard in the stream but there were plenty of us pissed off at that one
Anyone just watch Daryll Williams vs Zach Parker? Williams absolutely robbed. Parker won 3 rounds at a push 4 maximum. One judge actually had the front to score it 117-112.
Must be awful for a small time boxer like Williams to completely out box and out work his opponent to be robbed regardless.
Yeah it wasn't well received in the arena. Not sure if the boos could be heard in the stream but there were plenty of us pissed off at that one
With regards to the PPV argument, boxers these days want paying handsomely and the only way to pay them is PPV unfortunately.
That's what you get from listening to wankers like Hearn
Pay per view is acceptable for the biggies, what always happens is promoters get greedy. All pro sportsmen want paying and rightly so.
It's easy to work out the breakdown on shows, let's say the O2 which holds 20,000 and look at how many tickets are available in each price band, that will give you the potential net for the gate. Sky put in as well, or BT sport or whoever. The broadcaster makes their money on advertisements and don't hold a lot of the risk. The promoter is the one who puts up all the money for everyone but they pull it all back on a sold out show.
The aim of the game for boxers is to sell as many tickets as they humanly can to get on the bigger shows as they go from paying for themselves to making a lot of money for the promoter as well as covering their training costs and other associated costs such as a nutritionist, dietician, cutman and so on. They also get sponsorship to help with these expenses.
Where is becomes muddy is where Hearn and his ilk see the real money, which is pay per view. And that's the gold standard of payday for boxers however just because pay per view is there doesn't mean it is the only way to make fights. especially this one between Whyte and Chisora for a second time as Hearns boy will get the decision again even though Chisora boxed his head off last time, because Whyte is in his employ and Hearn can see an easy fight to make between Whyte and Joshua and flog that as a pay per view. Which is in itself bullshit. This Chisora v Whyte bout should not be pay per view, it's a domestic time marker of a fight, nothing is really at stake, Whyte will get a shot at Joshua as I don't think Chisora will be able to knock him out however well he boxes.
Besides that, he's put it on the same night as a genuinely decent match.
Boxing for charity is quite popular in NZ with non-boxing identities pitted against each other to raise funds for worthy causes. These guys - girls too - undergo a few months training in preparation for their one and only appearance in the ring.
It all came under scrutiny a few days ago when a fit young builder fellow took a couple of standing 8 counts in round 2 before being knocked out and taken to hospital in the final round. He died yesterday.
Boxing New Zealand has announced it will have nothing further details o do with these charity fights.
Boxing for charity is quite popular in NZ with non-boxing identities pitted against each other to raise funds for worthy causes. These guys - girls too - undergo a few months training in preparation for their one and only appearance in the ring.
It all came under scrutiny a few days ago when a fit young builder fellow took a couple of standing 8 counts in round 2 before being knocked out and taken to hospital in the final round. He died yesterday.
Boxing New Zealand has announced it will have nothing further details o do with these charity fights.
This is something I fear here with the rise in white collar bouts / celebrity match ups
Christchurch have cancelled their next Charilty for Christchurch evening but others are going ahead regardless and the boxing fraternity are very opposed to the sport is being used in this way. Bring back the Biff is going ahead tonight in Wellington.
A typical evening surrounds the fights, interspersed with music and dining, the most expensive tables being just down from the ring.
As for the guy, Wayne Parsons, he was in his early 30s, a father of three and he was up against a former professional rugby league player.
The scourge of boxing these things , you can not be a part time boxer it’s too dangerous
I have been in fully padded and being looked after and have had a few digs from pro boxers and the strength and timing is unreal
I don’t like the white collar stuff novice vs novice it’s playing at something that’s real
The sooner it’s stopped and outlawed the better
I agree with all you say but outlawing it will just send it underground and make it far worse. What's needed is a proper carding system with BBBoC registered trainers, medicals, sensible matchmaking, background checking and proper medical support on the night.
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Frampton v Warrington is a belter of a match. Frampton is nice, fluid and slick. Warrington less so, and runs at a million miles an hour for 12 rounds.
He's going to kill british boxing the rate he's going, this happened before and will happen again
No one should be willing to pay to watch two B-level heavyweights fight. The result doesn't actually mean anything in regards to the division as both guys have lost to the A fighters.
Arguably Chisora isn't even B-level.
And one of mine on the bill also Danny Wright
On the odd occasion it would happen but Eddie has form for it
Like most other sports we have our favorites but in boxing the sport thrives because boxers are very accessible to the fans they and you don’t have to have any one fighter in a bill that your a firm fan of
Now Warrington vs frampton is a hum dinger of a fight it’s two Brits at the top of their game who know each other extremely well
Warrington managed by Steve woods trained by papa Sean
Frampton trained by Jamie Moore who is like woodsys son
And training in the VIP gym which is directly under woodsys window of his office
Both teams know each other inside out jamie and papa like each other and spend time together and nice guy Nigel Travis is very much loved by the guys in Leeds
Then Eddie goes and puts on a London show to compete
Leeds fans will be in full flow the Belfast crowd is phenomenal when it comes to frampton
Neither derick or Whyte have Huge followings this will be a warren win hands down ticket wise
But Hearn will win the PPV and boxing fans lose more than anyone
On a different note, I'm off to Glasgow tomorrow for the WBSS card. Ryan Burnett fighting Nonito Donaire in the Bantamweight competition and Josh Taylor v Ryan Martin in the super-lightweight division. £40 a ticket.
Must be awful for a small time boxer like Williams to completely out box and out work his opponent to be robbed regardless.
Thinknit was him with the dodgy card from the earlier bout
When people want similar money for white collar fights
Josh Taylor is a real genuine class act
Shame for Burnett, Donaire wouldn’t have wanted to win like that either.
He’ll come again
Good fight but one sided win for Berchelt. I’d love to see him v Davis
I think ppv is overused by a country mile.
Pay per view is acceptable for the biggies, what always happens is promoters get greedy. All pro sportsmen want paying and rightly so.
It's easy to work out the breakdown on shows, let's say the O2 which holds 20,000 and look at how many tickets are available in each price band, that will give you the potential net for the gate. Sky put in as well, or BT sport or whoever. The broadcaster makes their money on advertisements and don't hold a lot of the risk. The promoter is the one who puts up all the money for everyone but they pull it all back on a sold out show.
The aim of the game for boxers is to sell as many tickets as they humanly can to get on the bigger shows as they go from paying for themselves to making a lot of money for the promoter as well as covering their training costs and other associated costs such as a nutritionist, dietician, cutman and so on. They also get sponsorship to help with these expenses.
Where is becomes muddy is where Hearn and his ilk see the real money, which is pay per view. And that's the gold standard of payday for boxers however just because pay per view is there doesn't mean it is the only way to make fights. especially this one between Whyte and Chisora for a second time as Hearns boy will get the decision again even though Chisora boxed his head off last time, because Whyte is in his employ and Hearn can see an easy fight to make between Whyte and Joshua and flog that as a pay per view. Which is in itself bullshit. This Chisora v Whyte bout should not be pay per view, it's a domestic time marker of a fight, nothing is really at stake, Whyte will get a shot at Joshua as I don't think Chisora will be able to knock him out however well he boxes.
Besides that, he's put it on the same night as a genuinely decent match.
his bubble will burst, same as Warrens did
It all came under scrutiny a few days ago when a fit young builder fellow took a couple of standing 8 counts in round 2 before being knocked out and taken to hospital in the final round. He died yesterday.
Boxing New Zealand has announced it will have nothing further details o do with these charity fights.
A typical evening surrounds the fights, interspersed with music and dining, the most expensive tables being just down from the ring.
As for the guy, Wayne Parsons, he was in his early 30s, a father of three and he was up against a former professional rugby league player.
I have been in fully padded and being looked after and have had a few digs from pro boxers and the strength and timing is unreal
I don’t like the white collar stuff novice vs novice it’s playing at something that’s real
The sooner it’s stopped and outlawed the better
I'll be cheering for Bellew of course but fear this is several steps too far for him - Usyk is the real deal and I expect him to win by stoppage.
Really looking forward to it and the atmosphere should be cracking.