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WHITE SWAN PUB (p.7 - Closed, just to add to the happy vibe)

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  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,750
    First Charlton pub I ever drank in, and the only one I would visit now. Real shame.
  • Charlton_Stu
    Charlton_Stu Posts: 3,873
    https://t.co/xSD5TFoAa3?amp=1
    Looks like they want to continue as a pub with more than a restaurant feel about it.
  • InspectorSands
    InspectorSands Posts: 5,192
    https://charltonchampion.co.uk/2020/03/11/white-swan-were-committed-to-reopening-charlton-village-pub-freeholder-says/

    I think Mendoza have realised they are getting the blame for this and want to be seen as the good guys. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,281
    The museum could take it over and move all our exhibits there.

    Just need someone to put a few £million into the idea.

    I'll give Matt Southall a call and see if he's interested.
  • thickandthin63
    thickandthin63 Posts: 2,965
    my first pint was in there 60 years ago with my dad and uncles(no I was not 18) very sad to see it go,but with cheap supermarket beer people wont leave their homes for a drink now.Not many locals left now,Antigallican gone,both clubs in Church Lane gone.
  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    So sad. Geoff had turned a sad old pub into a thriving one with great beer and a solid CAFC presence. Best pub for miles. Well, this side of the Pelton anyway.
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    I'm fairy sure that this pub will reopen at sometime.
  • E_cafc
    E_cafc Posts: 2,617
    Not many pubs left in SE7 now.  The Bugle, Rose of Denmark,  Royal Oak, Anchor and Hope?

    Can't think of any more. 
  • boggzy
    boggzy Posts: 3,596
    Charlton_Stu said:
    https://t.co/xSD5TFoAa3?amp=1
    Looks like they want to continue as a pub with more than a restaurant feel about it.
    Makes a change
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    E_cafc said:
    Not many pubs left in SE7 now.  The Bugle, Rose of Denmark,  Royal Oak, Anchor and Hope?

    Can't think of any more. 
    Nothing left with decent beer. Is the Rose of Denmark still ran by a heathen woman?

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  • E_cafc
    E_cafc Posts: 2,617
    I don't know,  haven't been in there for years. 
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,755
    Vincenzo said:
    So sad. Geoff had turned a sad old pub into a thriving one with great beer and a solid CAFC presence. Best pub for miles. Well, this side of the Pelton anyway.
    I see Geoff in my local in Bromley from time to time. I’ll reiterate the collective gratitude to him.....for those that may not visit the Pelton. 
  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    PopIcon said:
    E_cafc said:
    Not many pubs left in SE7 now.  The Bugle, Rose of Denmark,  Royal Oak, Anchor and Hope?

    Can't think of any more. 
    Nothing left with decent beer. Is the Rose of Denmark still ran by a heathen woman?
    No. By a Palace fan for the last three years.
  • Tavern
    Tavern Posts: 7,681
    Vincenzo said:
    So sad. Geoff had turned a sad old pub into a thriving one with great beer and a solid CAFC presence. Best pub for miles. Well, this side of the Pelton anyway.
    Agreed mate
  • Tavern
    Tavern Posts: 7,681
    Cardinal Sin said:
    Matchday drinking in Charlton is all but finished.
    It is mate.

    So sad about this and will always remember the brilliant days in our pubs at Charlton!

    I hope the last few remain so sad.
  • BenHaimandBikey
    BenHaimandBikey Posts: 508
    edited March 2020
    Cardinal Sin said:
    PopIcon said:
    E_cafc said:
    Not many pubs left in SE7 now.  The Bugle, Rose of Denmark,  Royal Oak, Anchor and Hope?

    Can't think of any more. 
    Nothing left with decent beer. Is the Rose of Denmark still ran by a heathen woman?
    No. By a Palace fan for the last three years.
    He's a good bloke, but it's probably on it's last legs. Could do with the White Swan/Pelton treatment, would be rammed down there.
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,236
    Mendoza the developer got its way finally and Greenwich council voted through their plan to build a house in the back garden. Absolute shit.

    https://twitter.com/charliejrome/status/1327034168405086210?s=21
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,236
    And the Chair who took the deciding vote is apparently one that complained about the Vanbrugh beer garden development. 

  • thickandthin63
    thickandthin63 Posts: 2,965
    Brown envelopes all round chaps
  • InspectorSands
    InspectorSands Posts: 5,192
    thickandthin63 said:
    Brown envelopes all round chaps
    Er, not really - it was refused three times before.

    Having just watched the meeting back, and also having followed this saga for a few years, I don't think they had many grounds to turn it down as past refusals (including from a planning inspector) weren't on the grounds that it would damage the pub's viability. 

    The main problem, as came out in the meeting, was Mendoza's rent demands.

    I suspect the pub can survive with a smaller garden - whether it can survive the likes of Mendoza is a different matter.

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  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,236
    It wont survive either way, with their rent demands.  If Geoff couldnt make it a viable option then I don't know who can and now when residents move in to the back garden and start kicking up a fuss over noise it has no chance.  

    Not that I guess anyone would take it on now.  


  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,236
    The landlord of the Lord Herbert retired during lockdown.  A long time Charlton fan who has had the pub 30 years or something like that... so it has been closed since.

    But a regular has come along and decided to take it on.  I like stories like that.  He didnt like his local being shut so is opening it up himself.    
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,236
    Haha

    After I typed up these messages about pubs I get an advert on here about fixing my liver! I hate these creepy adds. 
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,629
    Curb_It said:
    Haha

    After I typed up these messages about pubs I get an advert on here about fixing my liver! I hate these creepy adds. 
    Now I know why I keep getting Viagra adverts.
  • InspectorSands
    InspectorSands Posts: 5,192
    Anyway, here's what happened: https://charltonchampion.co.uk/2020/11/13/councillors-reluctantly-back-house-behind-white-swan-as-owners-concede-pub-rent-may-be-too-high/
  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    Absolutely effing furious about this. Greedy owners, idiotic planning officers, supine council. And it's Charlton that suffers. 

    How long before the new residents complain about the pub behind them?
  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    Well done @InspectorSands at Charlton Champion for his continued local reporting. No one else is going to shine a light on how local people get shafted.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,882
    Vincenzo said:
    Well done @InspectorSands at Charlton Champion for his continued local reporting. No one else is going to shine a light on how local people get shafted.
    Apart from our roving Sauvignon Blanc correspondent @Curb_It

  • boggzy
    boggzy Posts: 3,596
    Arseholes.

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