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Euro 2016 - The Football Thread

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  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,805
    I have t watched any premiership football last couple of years and few internationals. When we I see Hart play I wonder how he is Man City's first choice.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    Croatia been the most impressive side so far, although England's performance wasn't far off.

    We all know Germany and France will grow stronger and already have 3 points on the board, it's whether England can go on from last night and get the job done.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    Why have the Germans got their own stadium announcer?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    Now THAT is what we should have done yesterday!!!!
  • EastTerrace
    EastTerrace Posts: 3,961

    Now THAT is what we should have done yesterday!!!!

    Spot on. We will never do that.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    And that sums up the difference between England and Germany.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301

    Now THAT is what we should have done yesterday!!!!

    Spot on. We will never do that.
    Nah we take the too scared to take risks approach
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,255

    Why have the Germans got their own stadium announcer?

    Every team has had their own announcer so far
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    The difference between us and them summed up in the 92nd minute
  • Germany played well within themselves against a very poor side.
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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    sam3110 said:

    Why have the Germans got their own stadium announcer?

    Every team has had their own announcer so far
    I can't say I've noticed until tonight
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,964

    Why have the Germans got their own stadium announcer?

    Each team has their own announcer.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    I think each team has their own announcer.
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,697
    edited June 2016

    sam3110 said:

    Why have the Germans got their own stadium announcer?

    Every team has had their own announcer so far
    I can't say I've noticed until tonight
    Russia had some woman screaming. I thought at one stage Hoddle had attacked her and then i realised it was their announcer.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    So what people are saying is each team has their own announcer?
  • DRAddick
    DRAddick Posts: 3,588
    There's the difference between winning tournaments and failing every time.
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,964

    So what people are saying is each team has their own announcer?

    A bit of a shot in the dark, but yes.
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  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,805
    I thought it was only me who did that....;)
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,964
    edited June 2016
    Hope he washed his hands after. Imagine all the people he has stink-palmed after shaking their hands.....
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,805
    And what was he rolling between his fingers there.

    He can't store his chewing gum down his bum crack can he?
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Pretty sure if England had been gifted a 5-on-2 by a terrible punt forward with almost every Russian in the box then they'd have made a decent fist of it. But the Russian ball into the box was pinpoint and the Ukrainian one was rubbish.

    Oh, and Ukraine created far more chances against Germany than Russia did against England. But there are easy narratives to sound clever with I guess
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,167
    Leuth said:

    Pretty sure if England had been gifted a 5-on-2 by a terrible punt forward with almost every Russian in the box then they'd have made a decent fist of it. But the Russian ball into the box was pinpoint and the Ukrainian one was rubbish.

    Oh, and Ukraine created far more chances against Germany than Russia did against England. But there are easy narratives to sound clever with I guess

    Ah, Leuth right on time with his condescension I see.

    England actually were gifted with a lucky punt wide towards the end, and Raheem Sterling literally ran it off the pitch. What Low did well was make the right substitutions at the right times. They brought off a tired Draxler for Schurrle, a player who always pops up in front of goal, and then Schweinsteiger on 90 mins for an exhausted Gotze. We subbed Rooney who was controlling the midfield for Wilshere even though Alli had been totally anonymous in the second half, left on the ineffectual Kane who wasn't holding the ball up and subbed our fastest outlet Sterling for our slowest midfielder in Milner. Lallana was blowing early in the second half after a good first and he remained on the pitch for the full 90 despite us having a sub left. On the bench we left our pacy and ball carrying outlets like Vardy, Sturridge, Barkley and Rashford when we knew the Russians would have to attack and we could exploit the gaps with pace to finish them off. Instead we dropped deeper and invited them to put a decent ball in, which unluckily they did.

    Germany rode their luck at times today but Low managed the game far better than Hodgson did and the difference is evident in the result.
  • DRAddick
    DRAddick Posts: 3,588
    edited June 2016
    Leuth said:

    Pretty sure if England had been gifted a 5-on-2 by a terrible punt forward with almost every Russian in the box then they'd have made a decent fist of it. But the Russian ball into the box was pinpoint and the Ukrainian one was rubbish.

    Oh, and Ukraine created far more chances against Germany than Russia did against England. But there are easy narratives to sound clever with I guess

    And yet Germany didn't concede and won the game.
    You seem to be under the misguided notion that negative comments are based on one drawn game. They're not, they're based on years of tournaments and the same failures over and over again. Whether it's a mental problem or whatever, we repeatedly fail to be successful even when we play well, create chances and are the better team. Compared to successful teams such as Germany who repeatedly find a way to get results even when they're not playing well.

    We played really well against Russia, some of the best football we've played for a long long time It was great to watch and there were many positives. And it was our first game so getting into the stride of things. However Russia were also poor.

    It's just frustrating, and oh so predictable, that time and time again the England team fails to turn having an advantage into a result, or fails to take that 1 chance when it arrives when it's needed most, especially in tournaments.
    Maybe this tournament will be different? Maybe we will go on to win it? But if the age old problems repeat themselves as they did against Russia, then we'll just do what we do and bimble along until we meet one of the better teams in the knockout stage and then either lose because the other team were better and took advantage of it, or lose because we were better but couldn't take advantage of it.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Folks, England limited Russia to a couple of crosses in injury time and could have scored 4. England controlled the game and the substitutions were sound enough - Wilshere looked good when he came on and Milner can in theory do a good game-breaking job. Germany were all over the place for parts of their game. Don't let the results fool you - it was a far better performance from England than from Germany, and with easy groups to escape, that is much more important at this stage. I get the sense that the knives are already being sharpened for England's exit by many of you. Why? If it happens it happens, and barring an obvious tactical aberration we will just have to accept it.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    Dont forget as well... England have also played the hardest game in their Groups, our start would have been the equìvalent of Germany v Poland or France v Switzerland!!
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Written in the boarding queue for my flight to Cyprus. My commitment to internet argument is insane. (I'm on the plane now)