What happens to England's point if Russia don't complete their fixtures?
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If Russia were to be disqualified from the tournament, Group B could be thrown into turmoil due to Article 27 of Uefa’s regulations, which states: “If an association is disqualified during the competition, the results of all of its matches are declared null and void, and the points awarded forfeited.”
What happens to England's point if Russia don't complete their fixtures?
Edit:
If Russia were to be disqualified from the tournament, Group B could be thrown into turmoil due to Article 27 of Uefa’s regulations, which states: “If an association is disqualified during the competition, the results of all of its matches are declared null and void, and the points awarded forfeited.”
What happens to England's point if Russia don't complete their fixtures?
Edit:
If Russia were to be disqualified from the tournament, Group B could be thrown into turmoil due to Article 27 of Uefa’s regulations, which states: “If an association is disqualified during the competition, the results of all of its matches are declared null and void, and the points awarded forfeited.”
So we basically haven't played a game yet.
Look on the bright side... It means England have at least got one of the Third place spots.
The bad news is that we'll still manage to be one of the bottom two sides.
Off to Portugal vs Iceland tonight . Been a great experience so far , managed to get 2 tickets off a ukrainian woman the other night for the Germany game at face value €55. The seats were class
What would happen to the third place rankings? Four from the remaining five groups?
They'd probably have to do the same as they do in qualifying - discount results against the lowest team in the group.
The third placed team in England's group might go through with 0 points.
Not really as there are still Six Groups... Top four third placed sides go through...
If the third placed team in our Group has zero points and are one of the two worst teams then they'll still exit.
Russia if they're kicked out just become the first team to finish 4th in the Groups
If Russia are kicked out, there will be three teams in the group - England, Wales and Slovakia.
It will have to be as if Russia were never in the group.
As whoever finishes third would only have played 2 games, it would be unfair to allow results from 3 matches be included for the other 3rd placed teams.
What would happen to the third place rankings? Four from the remaining five groups?
They'd probably have to do the same as they do in qualifying - discount results against the lowest team in the group.
The third placed team in England's group might go through with 0 points.
Not really as there are still Six Groups... Top four third placed sides go through...
If the third placed team in our Group has zero points and are one of the two worst teams then they'll still exit.
Russia if they're kicked out just become the first team to finish 4th in the Groups
If Russia are kicked out, there will be three teams in the group - England, Wales and Slovakia.
It will have to be as if Russia were never in the group.
As whoever finishes third would only have played 2 games, it would be unfair to allow results from 3 matches be included for the other 3rd placed teams.
Good point... In which case they might have it where only results are counted in other Groups between the top three then.
Like what they do during Qualifying i.e. Because Group I only had five teams instead of six like everyone else, to work out the best third place team which would automatically Qualify (instead of going via. the Play-Offs), none of the results against the bottom team in each group counted towards the ranking of the third placed sides.
Hence why Ireland (for example) despite getting 18-points in Qualifying only technically had 12-points (and came towards the bottom of the said ranking table) because two of their wins had been against Gibraltar who'd finished bottom in their group.
What would happen to the third place rankings? Four from the remaining five groups?
They'd probably have to do the same as they do in qualifying - discount results against the lowest team in the group.
The third placed team in England's group might go through with 0 points.
Not really as there are still Six Groups... Top four third placed sides go through...
If the third placed team in our Group has zero points and are one of the two worst teams then they'll still exit.
Russia if they're kicked out just become the first team to finish 4th in the Groups
If Russia are kicked out, there will be three teams in the group - England, Wales and Slovakia.
It will have to be as if Russia were never in the group.
As whoever finishes third would only have played 2 games, it would be unfair to allow results from 3 matches be included for the other 3rd placed teams.
Good point... In which case they might have it where only results are counted in other Groups between the top three then.
Like what they do during Qualifying i.e. Because Group I only had five teams instead of six like everyone else, to work out the best third place team which would automatically Qualify (instead of going via. the Play-Offs), none of the results against the bottom team in each group counted towards the ranking of the third placed sides.
Hence why Ireland (for example) despite getting 18-points in Qualifying only technically had 12-points (and came towards the bottom of the said ranking table) because two of their wins had been against Gibraltar who'd finished bottom in their group.
What would happen to the third place rankings? Four from the remaining five groups?
They'd probably have to do the same as they do in qualifying - discount results against the lowest team in the group.
If that did happen, I think it's likely that at least one team would progress with 0 points on the 'ranking of third placed teams' table. That could be Slovakia, and if so, it would mean a team progressing to the knockout stage despite losing both group matches.
It would only be an issue in England's group. The third placed teams in other groups will have picked up some result against the bottom team.
Got back today after a couple of days and 3 matches. On the bus back last night got chatting to a Liege fan, I asked what he thought of Roland, "fuck Duchatalet" was the response. He was very sympathetic to our current predicament and wished us all the best. He also asked "who is that bitch CEO?" as well. Seems the goings on here are pretty well known over in Belgium.
If Russia were to get disqualified tomorrow, obviously our result and Slovakia's result wouldn't count.
So what would happen if we beat Wales 2-1 and lose 2-1 to Slovakia?
All of the teams would have played 2, won 1, lost 1, scored and conceded 3.
How would they work out who finishes where in the table?
In this scenario, it would go to fair play conduct (1 point for a yellow card, 3 for two yellows, 3 for a red, 4 for a yellow and a straight red)
If that still didn't split all three teams out, ranking would be decided by who is highest in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking (where it's England, then Slovakia, then Wales)
Penalties are used if only two teams are level at the end of the group.
Yeah heard that as well. Quite alot of palace references. Those same Hungarian fans are dressed in black like the palace ultras and that dope dowie is doing the commentary.
Must make a change from selling those building surveys..
If I ever need a building survey though, I'll be boycotting that company - nasty feckers sending him out the office so we all have to listen to him on TV.
I have to listen extra carefully when Dowie is commentating. So much so it distracts me from the football. He really does need to stop spluttering and hone his communication skills. He seems to trip over every word. No wonder he was such a good manager.
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If Russia were to be disqualified from the tournament, Group B could be thrown into turmoil due to Article 27 of Uefa’s regulations, which states: “If an association is disqualified during the competition, the results of all of its matches are declared null and void, and the points awarded forfeited.”
The bad news is that we'll still manage to be one of the bottom two sides.
The third placed team in England's group might go through with 0 points.
If the third placed team in our Group has zero points and are one of the two worst teams then they'll still exit.
Russia if they're kicked out just become the first team to finish 4th in the Groups
It will have to be as if Russia were never in the group.
As whoever finishes third would only have played 2 games, it would be unfair to allow results from 3 matches be included for the other 3rd placed teams.
Like what they do during Qualifying i.e. Because Group I only had five teams instead of six like everyone else, to work out the best third place team which would automatically Qualify (instead of going via. the Play-Offs), none of the results against the bottom team in each group counted towards the ranking of the third placed sides.
Hence why Ireland (for example) despite getting 18-points in Qualifying only technically had 12-points (and came towards the bottom of the said ranking table) because two of their wins had been against Gibraltar who'd finished bottom in their group.
It would only be an issue in England's group. The third placed teams in other groups will have picked up some result against the bottom team.
If Russia were to get disqualified tomorrow, obviously our result and Slovakia's result wouldn't count.
So what would happen if we beat Wales 2-1 and lose 2-1 to Slovakia?
All of the teams would have played 2, won 1, lost 1, scored and conceded 3.
How would they work out who finishes where in the table?
If that still didn't split all three teams out, ranking would be decided by who is highest in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking (where it's England, then Slovakia, then Wales)
Penalties are used if only two teams are level at the end of the group.
*well, a song to that tune is being sung
If I ever need a building survey though, I'll be boycotting that company - nasty feckers sending him out the office so we all have to listen to him on TV.
BTW, I know Kiraly is ex palace scum, but gotta love a 40 year old keeper in tracky bottoms at the Euros!