I've felt all along that the most important thing in getting RD to sell is a decent bid, and that requires us being in the Championship. Why have Wolves been bought by wealthy Chinese owners and not us? Because they're in the Championship and not L1. RD may say he doesn't want to sell, but then he would say that.
Effectively this season, the hardcore of protesters (2000?) have stopped going (plus another 3000 of fed off supporters), thus we have smaller crowds (though not embarrassingly small for the 3rd division) and none of the anti RD/KM protests in the ground. KM may prefer this
I've felt all along that the most important thing in getting RD to sell is a decent bid, and that requires us being in the Championship. Why have Wolves been bought by wealthy Chinese owners and not us? Because they're in the Championship and not L1. RD may say he doesn't want to sell, but then he would say that.
Effectively this season, the hardcore of protesters (2000?) have stopped going (plus another 3000 of fed off supporters), thus we have smaller crowds (though not embarrassingly small for the 3rd division) and none of the anti RD/KM protests in the ground. KM may prefer this
I agree with this and she will see her task of social engineering as a job well done.
Clearly the CARD organisers have a great deal to ponder & discuss before the "truce" ends and the first home game in September arrives - Wimbledon on Saturday 17th.
Relegation has strengthened the resolve of the majority of their followers to make life as difficult as possible for "them" both inside & outside the ground but the boycotts, whilst totally understandable will inevitably reduce their number & volume.
As a mere foot soldier I eagerly await news of the next operation and will do whatever I can to make the protests effective.
But whilst I do not envy the task ahead for our generals in this campaign, I KNOW that they will not let us down ; that their ingenuity & sheer determination will produce new ways for us to fight our corner & influence in no uncertain terms, the very future of the club we love.
Be patient.
This is a battle we HAVE to win but we need your support & co-operation.
A boycott would work if everybody did it. Which they won't.
We haven't renewed and were not going to go but then I thought why should she spoil our lives. So, we are going to pick and choose games, blag freebies if we can, not buy anything unless we have to pay for tickets.
To sum up. We are going to do anything we can to get them out.
A boycott would work if everybody did it. Which they won't.
We haven't renewed and were not going to go but then I thought why should she spoil our lives. So, we are going to pick and choose games, blag freebies if we can, not buy anything unless we have to pay for tickets.
To sum up. We are going to do anything we can to get them out.
The stay aways are more effective than anyone has given credit for so far in my opinion. It's a different strategy and not so obvious when you are looking for a high profile, or angry protest but shouldn't be discredited.
This picture from @AFKABartram during Saturday's game is pretty shocking IMO and confirms the impact:
The stay aways are more effective than anyone has given credit for so far in my opinion. It's a different strategy and not so obvious when you are looking for a high profile, or angry protest but shouldn't be discredited.
This picture from @AFKABartram during Saturday's game is pretty shocking IMO and confirms the impact:
The stay aways are more effective than anyone has given credit for so far in my opinion. It's a different strategy and not so obvious when you are looking for a high profile, or angry protest but shouldn't be discredited.
This picture from @AFKABartram during Saturday's game is pretty shocking IMO and confirms the impact:
They're still claiming 11,000 in there though!!!
9,600 in the ground according to ketman on another thread, and ketman is acknowledged to be 'in the know'. And that photo says a lot too. And 4000 freebies does not a Charlton crowd make.
Boycott. Stay in the concourse and watch the TV's if you have to be at the football.
Just let the media get photos and footage of basically completely empty home ends to show we are not scared of real action. some anti-RD songs and still turning up will not change a jot, if anything it's showing RD he will get away with what he wants, as you'll turn up regardless.
The stay aways are more effective than anyone has given credit for so far in my opinion. It's a different strategy and not so obvious when you are looking for a high profile, or angry protest but shouldn't be discredited.
This picture from @AFKABartram during Saturday's game is pretty shocking IMO and confirms the impact:
They're still claiming 11,000 in there though!!!
9,600 in the ground according to ketman on another thread, and ketman is acknowledged to be 'in the know'. And that photo says a lot too. And 4000 freebies does not a Charlton crowd make.
So taking off ntfc and freebies only 4600 ish left to convince not to go?
Feel a bit miffed to be honest, have boycotted this season, haven't renewed my ST, didn't even think about going etc then log in here to find all the main players in the CARD movement & those who protested the most were all at the game, can't imagine they'll pick up freebies all season so then what - have to say I'm a little disappointed & can imagine why the club are pleased about Saturday's attendance.
Suspect my view will change on Tuesday if those people aren't at The Valley but at the moment it seems like some are saying don't go, boycott then turn up as usual.
Feel a bit miffed to be honest, have boycotted this season, haven't renewed my ST, didn't even think about going etc then log in here to find all the main players in the CARD movement & those who protested the most were all at the game, can't imagine they'll pick up freebies all season so then what - have to say I'm a little disappointed & can imagine why the club are pleased about Saturday's attendance.
Suspect my view will change on Tuesday if those people aren't at The Valley but at the moment it seems like some are saying don't go, boycott then turn up as usual.
There, I've said it!
Why would the club be pleased with Saturday's 'attendance'? In reality probably under 5000 paying home spectators in the ground. They announced the highest number available to them because they could, but don't think you or anyone should be deceived by it nor think the boycott factor is failing or pointless (one game in!)
The stay aways are more effective than anyone has given credit for so far in my opinion. It's a different strategy and not so obvious when you are looking for a high profile, or angry protest but shouldn't be discredited.
This picture from @AFKABartram during Saturday's game is pretty shocking IMO and confirms the impact:
Feel a bit miffed to be honest, have boycotted this season, haven't renewed my ST, didn't even think about going etc then log in here to find all the main players in the CARD movement & those who protested the most were all at the game, can't imagine they'll pick up freebies all season so then what - have to say I'm a little disappointed & can imagine why the club are pleased about Saturday's attendance.
Suspect my view will change on Tuesday if those people aren't at The Valley but at the moment it seems like some are saying don't go, boycott then turn up as usual.
There, I've said it!
Why would the club be pleased with Saturday's 'attendance'? In reality probably under 5000 paying home spectators in the ground. They announced the highest number available to them because they could, but don't think you or anyone should be deceived by it nor think the boycott factor is failing or pointless (one game in!)
No idea but (un)official club spokeswoman Sue Parkes said on facebook that the club were quite happy with the attendance as it was the 2nd highest in the league.
Seemingly it's a great achievement that we can muster bigger crowds than giants of the English game such as Chesterfield, Fleetwood, Wimbledon, Gillingham, Port vale and Peterborough.
Feel a bit miffed to be honest, have boycotted this season, haven't renewed my ST, didn't even think about going etc then log in here to find all the main players in the CARD movement & those who protested the most were all at the game, can't imagine they'll pick up freebies all season so then what - have to say I'm a little disappointed & can imagine why the club are pleased about Saturday's attendance.
Suspect my view will change on Tuesday if those people aren't at The Valley but at the moment it seems like some are saying don't go, boycott then turn up as usual.
There, I've said it!
Why would the club be pleased with Saturday's 'attendance'? In reality probably under 5000 paying home spectators in the ground. They announced the highest number available to them because they could, but don't think you or anyone should be deceived by it nor think the boycott factor is failing or pointless (one game in!)
No idea but (un)official club spokeswoman Sue Parkes said on facebook that the club were quite happy with the attendance as it was the 2nd highest in the league.
Seemingly it's a great achievement that we can muster bigger crowds than giants of the English game such as Chesterfield, Fleetwood, Wimbledon, Gillingham, Port vale and Peterborough.
Great work the regime!!
If KM and RD are happy with 11k gates when they've given out around 50% of that number for free, then it's more proof that they are utterly useless.
Besides, whatever Sue Parkes says, you can pretty much claim the truth is the opposite. I doubt they are happy about it really.
Whilst it's sad to see pictures of empty stands, I do think that if we were to have a change of ownership within the next 18 months there would be an almost immediate doubling of home gates.
The real problem will be if the current regime stay for much longer than that and people find other things to do on a Saturday.
Despite Roland's personal wealth it seems to be well documented, in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, that the aim of this project of his is to prove he can run a club and break even in doing so.
Now the only way we can affect that is by not providing money to the regime - be it through tickets, food, mechendise etc.
Now straight up if no one had renewed a ST I'm pretty confident they might already be gone. I have not renewed and will only go on freebies (bro is on holiday so I'm having his ticket tomorrow night). I will pay for Millwall cos I can't risk missing us beat them ( haha I know) and I'll do aways too (booked for Walsall this Sat).
I feel that is the only way to get them out, but I do feel, like others have alluded too, a bit down about the numbers still going and the apparent lack of protest on Sat.
I only hope that CARD do announce some in-game protests in future and all us boycotters will return for those games.
Put simply, if this was Millwall the owners would be gone, but we're not so I just hope the long game wins out in the end, but we will lose support in the meantime.
Put simply, if this was Millwall the owners would be gone, but we're not so I just hope the long game wins out in the end, but we will lose support in the meantime.
Put simply, if this was Millwall the owners would be gone, but we're not so I just hope the long game wins out in the end, but we will lose support in the meantime.
An idea I had; maybe we could blockade the players coming into the Valley, similar to how those Black Lives Matter protestors stopped the traffic on the way to Heathrow. It might not disrupt the kickoff time but the more stunts like that we pull which are embarrassing to the regime the more press is gained and the less likely it is for new players to want to come to us while this regime is in charge.
An idea I had; maybe we could blockade the players coming into the Valley, similar to how those Black Lives Matter protestors stopped the traffic on the way to Heathrow. It might not disrupt the kickoff time but the more stunts like that we pull which are embarrassing to the regime the more press is gained and the less likely it is for new players to want to come to us while this regime is in charge.
I often wonder if there's anything we can do to get them out, protesting wise. SL pushed things further than Charlton fans ever will, people are complaining about a simple picket line ffs, we are limited by the wet weekends within the fan base that don't want to rock any sort of boat.
That really only leaves a boycott as the only way to hurt him, it doesn't matter what his other companies earn, the more CAFC costs him, the less likely he is to continue with this mad experiment. Is he really going to care what some football fans are doing in/outside a ground that he never even attends?
As I've said before we do not have a single knock out punch that will make him suddenly think "That's it. I'm selling".
We have to wear him and her down, bit by bit.
Every protests, every PR disaster, every FA investigation and fine for pitch invasions and game stoppages, every lost ST or shirt sale, every absent sponsorship deal, every press article like the one in the Sun today knocks their confidence and their delusion that their mad scheme is working.
It won't happen over night, it might not happen this season or the next.
We just have to keep chipping away.
Well said. The only thing that will make him suddenly think "I'm outta here" is a legitimate death threat but a) I don't condone that sort of action and b) neither will 98% of the rest of our fanbase. What about kidnapping KM with the ransom being the sale of the club?!
Protests take many forms,for some people it be just wearing a black and white scarf at the game.For others,like myself,is giving up my season ticket.The media consider this an important story so matchday is still the main focus for protests.What they can be is in the hands of the Card group.Having carried a coffin to the ground last spring and met the people involved I believe we are in.good hands.
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Effectively this season, the hardcore of protesters (2000?) have stopped going (plus another 3000 of fed off supporters), thus we have smaller crowds (though not embarrassingly small for the 3rd division) and none of the anti RD/KM protests in the ground. KM may prefer this
Edit: embarrassingly small crowd
Relegation has strengthened the resolve of the majority of their followers to make life as difficult as possible for "them" both inside & outside the ground but the boycotts, whilst totally understandable will inevitably reduce their number & volume.
As a mere foot soldier I eagerly await news of the next operation and will do whatever I can to make the protests effective.
But whilst I do not envy the task ahead for our generals in this campaign, I KNOW that they will not let us down ; that their ingenuity & sheer determination will produce new ways for us to fight our corner & influence in no uncertain terms, the very future of the club we love.
Be patient.
This is a battle we HAVE to win but we need your support & co-operation.
Keep the faith !
This picture from @AFKABartram during Saturday's game is pretty shocking IMO and confirms the impact:
Just let the media get photos and footage of basically completely empty home ends to show we are not scared of real action. some anti-RD songs and still turning up will not change a jot, if anything it's showing RD he will get away with what he wants, as you'll turn up regardless.
Suspect my view will change on Tuesday if those people aren't at The Valley but at the moment it seems like some are saying don't go, boycott then turn up as usual.
There, I've said it!
Seemingly it's a great achievement that we can muster bigger crowds than giants of the English game such as Chesterfield, Fleetwood, Wimbledon, Gillingham, Port vale and Peterborough.
Great work the regime!!
Besides, whatever Sue Parkes says, you can pretty much claim the truth is the opposite. I doubt they are happy about it really.
The real problem will be if the current regime stay for much longer than that and people find other things to do on a Saturday.
Now the only way we can affect that is by not providing money to the regime - be it through tickets, food, mechendise etc.
Now straight up if no one had renewed a ST I'm pretty confident they might already be gone. I have not renewed and will only go on freebies (bro is on holiday so I'm having his ticket tomorrow night). I will pay for Millwall cos I can't risk missing us beat them ( haha I know) and I'll do aways too (booked for Walsall this Sat).
I feel that is the only way to get them out, but I do feel, like others have alluded too, a bit down about the numbers still going and the apparent lack of protest on Sat.
I only hope that CARD do announce some in-game protests in future and all us boycotters will return for those games.
Put simply, if this was Millwall the owners would be gone, but we're not so I just hope the long game wins out in the end, but we will lose support in the meantime.
And so do I.