In Stadium Protests

killerandflash

I've felt all along that the most important thing in getting RD to sell is a decent bid, and that requires us being in the Championship. Why have Wolves been bought by wealthy Chinese owners and not us? Because they're in the Championship and not L1. RD may say he doesn't want to sell, but then he would say that.

Effectively this season, the hardcore of protesters (2000?) have stopped going (plus another 3000 of fed off supporters), thus we have smaller crowds (though not embarrassingly small for the 3rd division) and none of the anti RD/KM protests in the ground. KM may prefer this

Fumbluff

Surely the embarrassing crowd will be at that dopey arsed reserve league cup competition thingy

Edit: embarrassingly small crowd

Baldybonce

killerandflash said:

I've felt all along that the most important thing in getting RD to sell is a decent bid, and that requires us being in the Championship. Why have Wolves been bought by wealthy Chinese owners and not us? Because they're in the Championship and not L1. RD may say he doesn't want to sell, but then he would say that.

Effectively this season, the hardcore of protesters (2000?) have stopped going (plus another 3000 of fed off supporters), thus we have smaller crowds (though not embarrassingly small for the 3rd division) and none of the anti RD/KM protests in the ground. KM may prefer this

I agree with this and she will see her task of social engineering as a job well done.

Fanny Fanackapan

Clearly the CARD organisers have a great deal to ponder & discuss before the "truce" ends and the first home game in September arrives - Wimbledon on Saturday 17th.

Relegation has strengthened the resolve of the majority of their followers to make life as difficult as possible for "them" both inside & outside the ground but the boycotts, whilst totally understandable will inevitably reduce their number & volume.

As a mere foot soldier I eagerly await news of the next operation and will do whatever I can to make the protests effective.

But whilst I do not envy the task ahead for our generals in this campaign, I KNOW that they will not let us down ; that their ingenuity & sheer determination will produce new ways for us to fight our corner & influence in no uncertain terms, the very future of the club we love.

Be patient.

This is a battle we HAVE to win but we need your support & co-operation.

Keep the faith !

iainment

Baldybonce said:

alan dugdale said:

Time for a boycott I reckon. Long overdue.

A boycott would work if everybody did it. Which they won't.

We haven't renewed and were not going to go but then I thought why should she spoil our lives.
So, we are going to pick and choose games, blag freebies if we can, not buy anything unless we have to pay for tickets.

To sum up. We are going to do anything we can to get them out.

Except boycott.

Baldybonce

iainment said:

Baldybonce said:

alan dugdale said:

Time for a boycott I reckon. Long overdue.

A boycott would work if everybody did it. Which they won't.

We haven't renewed and were not going to go but then I thought why should she spoil our lives.
So, we are going to pick and choose games, blag freebies if we can, not buy anything unless we have to pay for tickets.

To sum up. We are going to do anything we can to get them out.

Except boycott.

Yes.

swords_alive

The stay aways are more effective than anyone has given credit for so far in my opinion. It's a different strategy and not so obvious when you are looking for a high profile, or angry protest but shouldn't be discredited.

This picture from @AFKABartram during Saturday's game is pretty shocking IMO and confirms the impact:

MrB

swords_alive said:

The stay aways are more effective than anyone has given credit for so far in my opinion. It's a different strategy and not so obvious when you are looking for a high profile, or angry protest but shouldn't be discredited.

This picture from @AFKABartram during Saturday's game is pretty shocking IMO and confirms the impact:

They're still claiming 11,000 in there though!!!

swords_alive

MrB said:

swords_alive said:

The stay aways are more effective than anyone has given credit for so far in my opinion. It's a different strategy and not so obvious when you are looking for a high profile, or angry protest but shouldn't be discredited.

This picture from @AFKABartram during Saturday's game is pretty shocking IMO and confirms the impact:

They're still claiming 11,000 in there though!!!

9,600 in the ground according to ketman on another thread, and ketman is acknowledged to be 'in the know'. And that photo says a lot too. And 4000 freebies does not a Charlton crowd make.

Atletico Addick

Boycott. Stay in the concourse and watch the TV's if you have to be at the football.

Just let the media get photos and footage of basically completely empty home ends to show we are not scared of real action. some anti-RD songs and still turning up will not change a jot, if anything it's showing RD he will get away with what he wants, as you'll turn up regardless.

kentred2

swords_alive said:

MrB said:

swords_alive said:

The stay aways are more effective than anyone has given credit for so far in my opinion. It's a different strategy and not so obvious when you are looking for a high profile, or angry protest but shouldn't be discredited.

This picture from @AFKABartram during Saturday's game is pretty shocking IMO and confirms the impact:

They're still claiming 11,000 in there though!!!

9,600 in the ground according to ketman on another thread, and ketman is acknowledged to be 'in the know'. And that photo says a lot too. And 4000 freebies does not a Charlton crowd make.

So taking off ntfc and freebies only 4600 ish left to convince not to go?

NorthStandUltra

Feel a bit miffed to be honest, have boycotted this season, haven't renewed my ST, didn't even think about going etc then log in here to find all the main players in the CARD movement & those who protested the most were all at the game, can't imagine they'll pick up freebies all season so then what - have to say I'm a little disappointed & can imagine why the club are pleased about Saturday's attendance.

Suspect my view will change on Tuesday if those people aren't at The Valley but at the moment it seems like some are saying don't go, boycott then turn up as usual.

There, I've said it!

swords_alive

NorthStandUltra said:

Feel a bit miffed to be honest, have boycotted this season, haven't renewed my ST, didn't even think about going etc then log in here to find all the main players in the CARD movement & those who protested the most were all at the game, can't imagine they'll pick up freebies all season so then what - have to say I'm a little disappointed & can imagine why the club are pleased about Saturday's attendance.

Suspect my view will change on Tuesday if those people aren't at The Valley but at the moment it seems like some are saying don't go, boycott then turn up as usual.

There, I've said it!

Why would the club be pleased with Saturday's 'attendance'? In reality probably under 5000 paying home spectators in the ground. They announced the highest number available to them because they could, but don't think you or anyone should be deceived by it nor think the boycott factor is failing or pointless (one game in!)

Croydon

swords_alive said:

The stay aways are more effective than anyone has given credit for so far in my opinion. It's a different strategy and not so obvious when you are looking for a high profile, or angry protest but shouldn't be discredited.

This picture from @AFKABartram during Saturday's game is pretty shocking IMO and confirms the impact:

so sad to see

Chris_from_Sidcup

swords_alive said:

NorthStandUltra said:

Feel a bit miffed to be honest, have boycotted this season, haven't renewed my ST, didn't even think about going etc then log in here to find all the main players in the CARD movement & those who protested the most were all at the game, can't imagine they'll pick up freebies all season so then what - have to say I'm a little disappointed & can imagine why the club are pleased about Saturday's attendance.

Suspect my view will change on Tuesday if those people aren't at The Valley but at the moment it seems like some are saying don't go, boycott then turn up as usual.

There, I've said it!

Why would the club be pleased with Saturday's 'attendance'? In reality probably under 5000 paying home spectators in the ground. They announced the highest number available to them because they could, but don't think you or anyone should be deceived by it nor think the boycott factor is failing or pointless (one game in!)

No idea but (un)official club spokeswoman Sue Parkes said on facebook that the club were quite happy with the attendance as it was the 2nd highest in the league.

Seemingly it's a great achievement that we can muster bigger crowds than giants of the English game such as Chesterfield, Fleetwood, Wimbledon, Gillingham, Port vale and Peterborough.

Great work the regime!!

hoof_it_up_to_benty

Went on Saturday and felt a tremendous sadness seeing the ground so empty - crowds will certainly head below 5000 at this rate.

eaststandmike

hoof_it_up_to_benty said:

Went on Saturday and felt a tremendous sadness seeing the ground so empty - crowds will certainly head below 5000 at this rate.

Lets hope so, hit the owners where it hurts.

lungrot

last time in Div One we were getting 16,000, so even their inflated 11,00 figure is 5,000 down. Well done Meire!!

WestCountryAddick

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

swords_alive said:

NorthStandUltra said:

Feel a bit miffed to be honest, have boycotted this season, haven't renewed my ST, didn't even think about going etc then log in here to find all the main players in the CARD movement & those who protested the most were all at the game, can't imagine they'll pick up freebies all season so then what - have to say I'm a little disappointed & can imagine why the club are pleased about Saturday's attendance.

Suspect my view will change on Tuesday if those people aren't at The Valley but at the moment it seems like some are saying don't go, boycott then turn up as usual.

There, I've said it!

Why would the club be pleased with Saturday's 'attendance'? In reality probably under 5000 paying home spectators in the ground. They announced the highest number available to them because they could, but don't think you or anyone should be deceived by it nor think the boycott factor is failing or pointless (one game in!)

No idea but (un)official club spokeswoman Sue Parkes said on facebook that the club were quite happy with the attendance as it was the 2nd highest in the league.

Seemingly it's a great achievement that we can muster bigger crowds than giants of the English game such as Chesterfield, Fleetwood, Wimbledon, Gillingham, Port vale and Peterborough.

Great work the regime!!

If KM and RD are happy with 11k gates when they've given out around 50% of that number for free, then it's more proof that they are utterly useless.

Besides, whatever Sue Parkes says, you can pretty much claim the truth is the opposite. I doubt they are happy about it really.

Oakster

Around the 4:38 mark in the attached video - that's a sparsely populated East Stand!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gfoPBbLvDR4

SE7toSG3

Whilst it's sad to see pictures of empty stands, I do think that if we were to have a change of ownership within the next 18 months there would be an almost immediate doubling of home gates.

The real problem will be if the current regime stay for much longer than that and people find other things to do on a Saturday.

The_Organiser

Despite Roland's personal wealth it seems to be well documented, in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, that the aim of this project of his is to prove he can run a club and break even in doing so.

Now the only way we can affect that is by not providing money to the regime - be it through tickets, food, mechendise etc.

Now straight up if no one had renewed a ST I'm pretty confident they might already be gone. I have not renewed and will only go on freebies (bro is on holiday so I'm having his ticket tomorrow night). I will pay for Millwall cos I can't risk missing us beat them ( haha I know) and I'll do aways too (booked for Walsall this Sat).

I feel that is the only way to get them out, but I do feel, like others have alluded too, a bit down about the numbers still going and the apparent lack of protest on Sat.

I only hope that CARD do announce some in-game protests in future and all us boycotters will return for those games.

Put simply, if this was Millwall the owners would be gone, but we're not so I just hope the long game wins out in the end, but we will lose support in the meantime.

falconwood_1

Put simply, if this was Millwall the owners would be gone, but we're not so I just hope the long game wins out in the end, but we will lose support in the meantime.

100% agree with this.

kentred2

falconwood_1 said:

Put simply, if this was Millwall the owners would be gone, but we're not so I just hope the long game wins out in the end, but we will lose support in the meantime.

100% agree with this.

And so do I.

cafcinse6

An idea I had; maybe we could blockade the players coming into the Valley, similar to how those Black Lives Matter protestors stopped the traffic on the way to Heathrow. It might not disrupt the kickoff time but the more stunts like that we pull which are embarrassing to the regime the more press is gained and the less likely it is for new players to want to come to us while this regime is in charge.

blackpool72

cafcinse6 said:

An idea I had; maybe we could blockade the players coming into the Valley, similar to how those Black Lives Matter protestors stopped the traffic on the way to Heathrow. It might not disrupt the kickoff time but the more stunts like that we pull which are embarrassing to the regime the more press is gained and the less likely it is for new players to want to come to us while this regime is in charge.

And the more chance you'll have of getting nicked

Mendonca In Asdas

The longer this fella owns us the worse things will get, I don't know how but we have to get rid of him.

drewman

Stu_of_Kunming said:

I often wonder if there's anything we can do to get them out, protesting wise. SL pushed things further than Charlton fans ever will, people are complaining about a simple picket line ffs, we are limited by the wet weekends within the fan base that don't want to rock any sort of boat.

That really only leaves a boycott as the only way to hurt him, it doesn't matter what his other companies earn, the more CAFC costs him, the less likely he is to continue with this mad experiment. Is he really going to care what some football fans are doing in/outside a ground that he never even attends?

Completely agree.

drewman

Henry Irving said:

As I've said before we do not have a single knock out punch that will make him suddenly think "That's it. I'm selling".

We have to wear him and her down, bit by bit.

Every protests, every PR disaster, every FA investigation and fine for pitch invasions and game stoppages, every lost ST or shirt sale, every absent sponsorship deal, every press article like the one in the Sun today knocks their confidence and their delusion that their mad scheme is working.

It won't happen over night, it might not happen this season or the next.

We just have to keep chipping away.

Well said. The only thing that will make him suddenly think "I'm outta here" is a legitimate death threat but a) I don't condone that sort of action and b) neither will 98% of the rest of our fanbase. What about kidnapping KM with the ransom being the sale of the club?!

trundler

Protests take many forms,for some people it be just wearing a black and white scarf at the game.For others,like myself,is giving up my season ticket.The media consider this an important story so matchday is still the main focus for protests.What they can be is in the hands of the Card group.Having carried a coffin to the ground last spring and met the people involved I believe we are in.good hands.