If they had wanted a British based manager they would have done so already as their are plenty around and the ridicule must have got through to them to some extent.
thing is, as Steve Evans 'tweeted' .. who wants to go to a club where the fans and owners are at war, the team is underperforming, the owner is never to be seen and the CEO has the football brains of a concrete rocking horse .. in retrospect did Slade only join us 'cos he was desperate for a job ?
No fan of Evans, but can't argue with what he said. We're a basket case and the whole football world knows it. Al those calling for Slade's sacking really missed the point: no one any good is going to come here. And we are likely to get someone worse.
After retiring as a player in February 2015, Caldwell formally joined the coaching staff at the Wigan Athletic academy.[19] He was appointed the new manager of Wigan Athletic on 7 April 2015 after the sacking of Malky Mackay with the club 23rd in the Championship with five games remaining.[20]
He was unable to halt the clubs relegation to League One but was assured by club chairman David Sharpe that he would remain in charge.[21] The following season Caldwell guided Wigan to the League One title and promotion back to the Championship at the first attempt.[22] Along with club success Caldwell was also recognised with the manager of the month award for February[23] and the LMA League One Manager of the Year award.[24]On the 23 October 2016 after 18 months in charge, Caldwell was sacked by Wigan Athletic with the club in 23rd position and winless in four games. [25]
This would suggest he's got something about him wouldn't it
After retiring as a player in February 2015, Caldwell formally joined the coaching staff at the Wigan Athletic academy.[19] He was appointed the new manager of Wigan Athletic on 7 April 2015 after the sacking of Malky Mackay with the club 23rd in the Championship with five games remaining.[20]
He was unable to halt the clubs relegation to League One but was assured by club chairman David Sharpe that he would remain in charge.[21] The following season Caldwell guided Wigan to the League One title and promotion back to the Championship at the first attempt.[22] Along with club success Caldwell was also recognised with the manager of the month award for February[23] and the LMA League One Manager of the Year award.[24]On the 23 October 2016 after 18 months in charge, Caldwell was sacked by Wigan Athletic with the club in 23rd position and winless in four games. [25]
This would suggest he's got something about him wouldn't it
I am afraid anything that an "outside" manager could offer would be neutralised by copious inside interference.
I may be wrong, but I cannot see any appointment being made for the next few weeks. We have a tough set of fixtures, plus major injury worries on two of our best players, and will probably not win many games between now and Xmas. That will allow them to then sack the interim one (thanks Kevin!), and take the desperate measure of installing Chris O'Loughlin as nothing else has worked. We will be in the relegation zone, out of the cups, and playing before sparse crowds, and still NightMeire will say we are improving the ranking of de clob. Other than to make a fast buck (as Slade did), why would any reasonable British manager step forward to take over at CAFC? They would have no squad, coaching staff planted on them, and no money in January unless Lookman is sold (which NightMeire has said will not happen, so it probably will!); even then, the allowance from any sales will be paltry by comparison. Desperate, desperate times.
Caldwell's record mirrors that of Graham Alexander to an extent ..not very experienced but a quick promotion followed by a difficult time in a higher league, followed by the sack
IF IF Caldwell comes to us and if he is anywhere near so successful as Alexander has been at Scunthorpe, he'll do for me
After retiring as a player in February 2015, Caldwell formally joined the coaching staff at the Wigan Athletic academy.[19] He was appointed the new manager of Wigan Athletic on 7 April 2015 after the sacking of Malky Mackay with the club 23rd in the Championship with five games remaining.[20]
He was unable to halt the clubs relegation to League One but was assured by club chairman David Sharpe that he would remain in charge.[21] The following season Caldwell guided Wigan to the League One title and promotion back to the Championship at the first attempt.[22] Along with club success Caldwell was also recognised with the manager of the month award for February[23] and the LMA League One Manager of the Year award.[24]On the 23 October 2016 after 18 months in charge, Caldwell was sacked by Wigan Athletic with the club in 23rd position and winless in four games. [25]
This would suggest he's got something about him wouldn't it
Devil's advocate, we do not have a striker who will get half the goals that Will Grigg got last season at Charlton
After retiring as a player in February 2015, Caldwell formally joined the coaching staff at the Wigan Athletic academy.[19] He was appointed the new manager of Wigan Athletic on 7 April 2015 after the sacking of Malky Mackay with the club 23rd in the Championship with five games remaining.[20]
He was unable to halt the clubs relegation to League One but was assured by club chairman David Sharpe that he would remain in charge.[21] The following season Caldwell guided Wigan to the League One title and promotion back to the Championship at the first attempt.[22] Along with club success Caldwell was also recognised with the manager of the month award for February[23] and the LMA League One Manager of the Year award.[24]On the 23 October 2016 after 18 months in charge, Caldwell was sacked by Wigan Athletic with the club in 23rd position and winless in four games. [25]
This would suggest he's got something about him wouldn't it
It does @Swisdom but the key part is that "He was appointed the new manager of Wigan Athletic on 7 April 2015" ie he has all summer to prepare, something Slade didn't have.
And even when he started poorly in league 1 they stuck by him and he won the league.
He does just have that one season though at a club and with players he knew well.
The whole thing is yet another farcical chapter under RD & KM. RD sacked Slade because he got upset that some fans went over to Belgium and interrupted his lunch. He's oblivious to the fact that the majority of fans don't want him there, regardless of whether or not he appointed a British manager in the summer. In his head because KM had told him we cannot have another Karel Frayere and continue the way we were going, he thought he had dealt with it and everything was going to be okay.
Unfortunately for KM, she was hoping Slade would hit the ground running and success on the pitch would curb the protests and the unease. Slade unfortunately couldn't really get us going partly because the budget was limited from KM's errors in all the past player signings, and he himself plays a negative brand of football.
The blocked up toilet that is Charlton has overflowed again, and RD has been told he has to call a plumber. RD now wants his own plumber that he knows because he's completely detached from the day to day enormity of the situation and what a shit fest it is, because KM has been telling him it's going okay. KM now between a rock and a hard place is probably using all her feeble persuasion skills to insist that we cannot have a COL or any other of Roland's mates, because she's bearing the brunt of the backlash over here. RD has probably got some of the gist of it and said to her that COL will be coach for now.
She's now obliviously trying to imagine there will be some sort of recruitment process where interested parties like Cauldwell come forward and the few remaining fans that still cling to the hope their is hope, buy into maybe Slade leaving will be the key to success.
Anyone with half a brain cell must now actually realise that it really is a monumental shambles and there is no way back, only continuation of a detritus on the same path.
NO manager, whether network or Alex Ferguson can turn this round with our lunatic of an owner and incompetent CEO.
Whatever/whoever/however there is no future for this club whilst they are here.
They might as well put COL in full control as it add more fuel to the protests. That would be the best possible outcome in my opinion
I have a sneaking suspicion that I can see where our fragrant and lovely (to say nothing of a certain Lifer's paramour) went wrong on this one...
PS In comparison to me, Russell Slade's Usain Bolt.
No doubt Caldwell went into the season with most of the squad that came down from the Championship, albeit without the talented Andy Delort. Our jokers meanwhile recuit an almost entire grloup every summer, with half coming after pre-season.
So far Caldwell is a one trick-pony whose success may be down to Championship quality players in the division below.
List of Transfers that Caldwell had to deal with last season...
By the looks of things they had an even bigger rebuild that what we've had to deal with whilst Wigan only spent £1m on transfers which was mainly spent signing Will Grigg who ironically was the League One 5th top scorer the year before he signed for them.
If the latest shenanigans are all about Caldwell why the delay? is he waiting for it all in writing, is there a lot of questions being asked and a lot of 'I'll get back to you' being answered? Will Katrien explicitly explain the deal, that a new manager will be at worse hated, and at best treated with suspicion by the support remaining, and that he will have to deliver promotion straight away whilst the best players are being sold, and Roger Johnson and Vaz Te are being offered in return as mainstays? Will Katrien also explain that the previous king across the water, who has travelled over, Chris OL will be squatting, watching, and reporting back to Roland at every turn Caldwell's moves? Will Katrien explain the six month rolling contract scheme she introduced to scouts and coaches before (which given the average stay of four months looks like a long term contract)? If Caldwell or anybody else takes the job they will only have themselves to blame, especially as 100% of verbal assurances will be lies.
Why is he a dickhead, just because he/she has a different view to you? That is the trouble with this forum, have a difference of opinion and you are lynched!
I personally dont think they are part of the problem, but I do think the senior players and perhaps the likes of Euell could or should be putting more pressure on KM and RD. They cannot enjoy playing for a club like Charlton at the moment. It can't be doing any of them any good and with the constant change of managers, it is obvious they have no clear direction to follow.
Perhaps it is time to ask what part they are playing in this debacle and are they doing enough? Results on the pitch haven't been great, goals aren't being scored, so I guess that's why some may beginning to feel like they are part of the problem.
If I was a half decent player (of which we have a few I think) I would be looking at Charlto and thinking, how the hell do I get out of here? Perhaps one or two should think about going public, even if it's to defend the regime. If that is the case, they would get a jolly big pat on the back from KM and RD. Nothing lose. If it is to be critical, they may get their contracts terminated and they are free to move on!
One person calls a poster a dickhead and you think that's a lynching? I think you're doing that thing where one person says something and you assume the entire forum/fanbase thinks the same thing.
After retiring as a player in February 2015, Caldwell formally joined the coaching staff at the Wigan Athletic academy.[19] He was appointed the new manager of Wigan Athletic on 7 April 2015 after the sacking of Malky Mackay with the club 23rd in the Championship with five games remaining.[20]
He was unable to halt the clubs relegation to League One but was assured by club chairman David Sharpe that he would remain in charge.[21] The following season Caldwell guided Wigan to the League One title and promotion back to the Championship at the first attempt.[22] Along with club success Caldwell was also recognised with the manager of the month award for February[23] and the LMA League One Manager of the Year award.[24]On the 23 October 2016 after 18 months in charge, Caldwell was sacked by Wigan Athletic with the club in 23rd position and winless in four games. [25]
This would suggest he's got something about him wouldn't it
Devil's advocate, we do not have a striker who will get half the goals that Will Grigg got last season at Charlton
Well actually we do. That's a fact. Perhaps playing in a team that's not set up with ten accross the back might help him to score as he did last season.
Admin may as well make this thread a sticky seeing as we churn through so many managers/head coach's, and it'll be regurgitated in a couple of months time!
If the latest shenanigans are all about Caldwell why the delay? is he waiting for it all in writing, is there a lot of questions being asked and a lot of 'I'll get back to you' being answered? Will Katrien explicitly explain the deal, that a new manager will be at worse hated, and at best treated with suspicion by the support remaining, and that he will have to deliver promotion straight away whilst the best players are being sold, and Roger Johnson and Vaz Te are being offered in return as mainstays? Will Katrien also explain that the previous king across the water, who has travelled over, Chris OL will be squatting, watching, and reporting back to Roland at every turn Caldwell's moves? Will Katrien explain the six month rolling contract scheme she introduced to scouts and coaches before (which given the average stay of four months looks like a long term contract)? If Caldwell or anybody else takes the job they will only have themselves to blame, especially as 100% of verbal assurances will be lies.
The whole thing is yet another farcical chapter under RD & KM. RD sacked Slade because he got upset that some fans went over to Belgium and interrupted his lunch. He's oblivious to the fact that the majority of fans don't want him there, regardless of whether or not he appointed a British manager in the summer. In his head because KM had told him we cannot have another Karel Frayere and continue the way we were going, he thought he had dealt with it and everything was going to be okay.
Unfortunately for KM, she was hoping Slade would hit the ground running and success on the pitch would curb the protests and the unease. Slade unfortunately couldn't really get us going partly because the budget was limited from KM's errors in all the past player signings, and he himself plays a negative brand of football.
The blocked up toilet that is Charlton has overflowed again, and RD has been told he has to call a plumber. RD now wants his own plumber that he knows because he's completely detached from the day to day enormity of the situation and what a shit fest it is, because KM has been telling him it's going okay. KM now between a rock and a hard place is probably using all her feeble persuasion skills to insist that we cannot have a COL or any other of Roland's mates, because she's bearing the brunt of the backlash over here. RD has probably got some of the gist of it and said to her that COL will be coach for now.
She's now obliviously trying to imagine there will be some sort of recruitment process where interested parties like Cauldwell come forward and the few remaining fans that still cling to the hope their is hope, buy into maybe Slade leaving will be the key to success.
Anyone with half a brain cell must now actually realise that it really is a monumental shambles and there is no way back, only continuation of a detritus on the same path.
NO manager, whether network or Alex Ferguson can turn this round with our lunatic of an owner and incompetent CEO.
Whatever/whoever/however there is no future for this club whilst they are here.
They might as well put COL in full control as it add more fuel to the protests. That would be the best possible outcome in my opinion
List of Transfers that Caldwell had to deal with last season...
By the looks of things they had an even bigger rebuild that what we've had to deal with whilst Wigan only spent £1m on transfers which was mainly spent signing Will Grigg who ironically was the League One 5th top scorer the year before he signed for them.
As Henry said above, he was there in April, knew the squad and the ins and out were likely his choices within a set budget.
Here he will inherit an unbalanced squad, two of our best players out until 2017, two decent players frozen out for unexplained reasons and a dispirited bunch of players. 6/8 tough matches until window opens, will he be given funds? Will he bow down to the keyboard warrior? Will he still be here?
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He might well be a Dickhead but that would still be a vast improvement on the current set up and I enjoy his posts.
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink taking time out after QPR sacking. No interest in the Charlton job #cafc
I am afraid anything that an "outside" manager could offer would be neutralised by copious inside interference.
IF IF Caldwell comes to us and if he is anywhere near so successful as Alexander has been at Scunthorpe, he'll do for me
Devil's advocate, we do not have a striker who will get half the goals that Will Grigg got last season at Charlton
It does @Swisdom but the key part is that "He was appointed the new manager of Wigan Athletic on 7 April 2015" ie he has all summer to prepare, something Slade didn't have.
And even when he started poorly in league 1 they stuck by him and he won the league.
He does just have that one season though at a club and with players he knew well.
PS In comparison to me, Russell Slade's Usain Bolt.
So far Caldwell is a one trick-pony whose success may be down to Championship quality players in the division below.
List of Transfers that Caldwell had to deal with last season...
By the looks of things they had an even bigger rebuild that what we've had to deal with whilst Wigan only spent £1m on transfers which was mainly spent signing Will Grigg who ironically was the League One 5th top scorer the year before he signed for them.
Will Katrien explicitly explain the deal, that a new manager will be at worse hated, and at best treated with suspicion by the support remaining, and that he will have to deliver promotion straight away whilst the best players are being sold, and Roger Johnson and Vaz Te are being offered in return as mainstays?
Will Katrien also explain that the previous king across the water, who has travelled over, Chris OL will be squatting, watching, and reporting back to Roland at every turn Caldwell's moves? Will Katrien explain the six month rolling contract scheme she introduced to scouts and coaches before (which given the average stay of four months looks like a long term contract)?
If Caldwell or anybody else takes the job they will only have themselves to blame, especially as 100% of verbal assurances will be lies.
Which they do. He is one.
Well actually we do. That's a fact. Perhaps playing in a team that's not set up with ten accross the back might help him to score as he did last season.
Here he will inherit an unbalanced squad, two of our best players out until 2017, two decent players frozen out for unexplained reasons and a dispirited bunch of players. 6/8 tough matches until window opens, will he be given funds? Will he bow down to the keyboard warrior? Will he still be here?